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PostPosted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 5:13 am


Does anyone else besides me think that the number and frequency of Cup drivers competing in the Busch series has gotten out of hand?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 3:55 pm


There should be a set limit of Cup drivers who can do Buschwacking. I mean, I can understand the guys who just got out of the Busch series wanting to race a few, and even past champs, but its has gotten outta hand. but it kinda proves that at the end of the day, sometimes the Busch drivers do better, even though its not the case this year, cause I've only seen Menard and Wallace finish in the top ten and they aren't full time Cup driver

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 12:05 pm


no, becuase the busch car drivers like to competie with Cup cars
PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 9:49 am


The problem with Bushwacking is money. In the short term, the large cup teams are coming in and getting the top finishing spots week after week, and getting the prize money for them. Several of the smaller Busch teams could really use that money, and are instead getting the chump change for a 20th or worse place finish. Long term it's going to come down to sponsers. If Gaia was going to sponser a Busch car, do you think they'd want to have their logo on a backmarker or a top ten car? The fear is it's going to start killing the smaller Busch teams, and Cup drivers start filling the field completely. Bye-bye feeder series.

On a brighter note, the Car of Tomorrow should help curb Buschwacking. It is my understanding that the Busch series will not go to the Car of Tomorrow, and thus make any data gained by running the Busch race useless. That is one of the big reasons that Cup drivers are flooding the Busch series right now, the cars are so similar, they are essentally getting a free test.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 6:12 pm


The most basic aspect is it's choking the people who are supposed to run it, to get better.

What's the point of having a support series where drivers can get better if half the field is drivers from Nextel Cup?

Okay, I can understand a few NNCS drivers competing in select races every once in a while. I also think Kevin Harvick's situation in 2001 when Dale Earnhardt died was unique.

But 6 full time Cup drivers competing fulltime in the Busch series?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 9:03 am


Let's hear it for David Gilliland!

It only took 16 races for a non-nextel cup driver to win! And this week at Milwaukee, there may not be a full field. Ish not good. gonk

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 11:04 am


Here is something to think about. How come they never go and race in the Craftsman Truck Series??? They could extend the field in it to accomadte the extra drivers if they felt it nesscary. And I think the only Cup drivers that do race in the Craftsman Truck Series are the guys from Roush Racing
PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 11:48 am


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Here is something to think about. How come they never go and race in the Craftsman Truck Series??? They could extend the field in it to accomadte the extra drivers if they felt it nesscary. And I think the only Cup drivers that do race in the Craftsman Truck Series are the guys from Roush Racing

The trucks are too different to gain any useful data. That's why you don't see many cup drivers in there, and when you do, they're in there for fun.
Here's something to think about: Casey Mears said yesterday that there aren't many good drivers floating around right now. With Toyota coming in, there are suddenly a flood of new rides open.
Let's see:
Chip Ganassi had one, filled it with Juan Pablo Montoya.
Michael Waltrip had one, got Dale Jarrett and UPS, so he will run a third car, which is open.
Red Bull had two, one of which is filled by Brian Vickers, the other is open.
Robert Yates has one now thanks to Dale Jarrett leaving.
Bill Davis will have one when Michael Waltrip leaves for his own team.
Hmm...That's 4? Let me ask you this; Who's the standout Busch Series driver this year? David Gilliland? A part timer with one win? Thanks to the overflow of Buschwacking, there really isn't one!

Could we see the return of Bill Elliott, Ricky Rudd or Ward Burton? Maybe some Truck series drivers will try and make the jump. Todd Bodine said that he will be running some cup races next year for Germain racing, in a car-of-tomorrow Toyota. Could others follow?

One more thing: Danica Patrick.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 1:21 pm


Quite fankly i see no problem with buschwacking. There is no rule saying that the nextel guys cannot compete in busch series and i see no reason for one.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 5:41 pm


When you're choking the money gained by Busch regulars, that is plenty enough reason.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 6:13 pm


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When you're choking the money gained by Busch regulars, that is plenty enough reason.


Well they may be "choking" out money in the Busch series but its their decision wether or not they want to run a Busch race. What is NASCAR gonna say the next time Greg Biffle or Kevin Harvick wants to run in a Busch race? Sorry but your too good to race these other drivers, go home please. I think not.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 6:24 pm


i think they should negotiate a deal where if a cup driver wants to run in the busch series than they either have to run a full season( or at least attempt to) or can run only 5 races a year..

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 7:56 pm


Okay, running companion events is one thing. But why is it fair for a Nextel Cup veteran to be going for the Busch championship?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 12:01 am


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Okay, running companion events is one thing. But why is it fair for a Nextel Cup veteran to be going for the Busch championship?
Most of the cup regulars that DO run the full season were busch drivers only a year or two ago..The only exception is kevin harvick...but if nascar would limit cup drivers who aren't competing for the championship, then the busch regulars would do better in the points.....Think about it let's say, if greg biffle, matt kenseth, kurt busch, jeff burton, jamie mcmurray, and kasey kahne weren't in the race that would be at least 6 more point positions for busch drivers to gain...

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 9:04 am


It's a big problem. On one hand, fans, teams, and track owners want to see Cup drivers in the Busch series. The fans want to see theere favorite driver, the teams want the data gained from the race, and the track owners profit from increased ticket sales. Everybody wins, right? Wrong! As more and more cup drivers come into the series, the Busch series regular teams get pushed to the back, struggle, and eventually die from lack of funding. New up-and-coming drivers that come in have few options to race and learn. They would also get lost in the background as the focus would always be on the cup drivers. It's a problem. I think so, Dale Jr. Thinks so, David Poole thinks so,, and even Domo thinks so.
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