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germanboyno2

PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 3:27 pm


if Matter and Antimatter combine to annihilate each other and create energy couldn't we make matter and Antimatter out of energy? Is matter just another part of energy or vice versa?

please explain
Can we theoretically make Matter out of Energy?
PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 4:23 pm


According to the theory of relativity, yes, it can. According to the formula : E=mc^2, the energy generated by a certain mass, is equal to the amount of mass lost by the speed of light squared. I see no reason this couldn't be changed with simple algebra to m=E/(c^2). Meaning that the amount of mass produced is equal to the amount of energy used, divided by the speed of light squared.

ZigguratII


VorpalNeko
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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 4:53 pm


Indeed we can, and particle accelerators routinely do this. Dirac's prediction of the positron was first verified by Carl Anderson, who observed that cosmic rays sometimes generated positively charged particles whose track length in cloud chamber with lead plate was an order of magnitude greater than that of protons, the smallest positively-charged particle known at the time. Later on, experiments with alpha particle/beryllium scattering was shown to produce positrons without cosmic rays.
PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 4:53 pm


there is already a thread about this...

nonameladyofsins


yoyoman1_7

PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 7:29 pm


ZigguratII
According to the theory of relativity, yes, it can. According to the formula : E=mc^2, the energy generated by a certain mass, is equal to the amount of mass lost by the speed of light squared. I see no reason this couldn't be changed with simple algebra to m=E/(c^2). Meaning that the amount of mass produced is equal to the amount of energy used, divided by the speed of light squared.


isn't that also how the atom bomb works??? We're splitting an atom to make it lose matter, which becomes energy. At least thats my understanding of it..
PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 8:07 pm


ZigguratII
According to the theory of relativity, yes, it can. According to the formula : E=mc^2, the energy generated by a certain mass, is equal to the amount of mass lost by the speed of light squared. I see no reason this couldn't be changed with simple algebra to m=E/(c^2). Meaning that the amount of mass produced is equal to the amount of energy used, divided by the speed of light squared.


I am not sure if that is the same when antimatter and matter collide. Can we make matter out of energy was the bigger question(sorry horrible at saying wwhat I want to)

germanboyno2


germanboyno2

PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 8:09 pm


yoyoman1_7
ZigguratII
According to the theory of relativity, yes, it can. According to the formula : E=mc^2, the energy generated by a certain mass, is equal to the amount of mass lost by the speed of light squared. I see no reason this couldn't be changed with simple algebra to m=E/(c^2). Meaning that the amount of mass produced is equal to the amount of energy used, divided by the speed of light squared.


isn't that also how the atom bomb works??? We're splitting an atom to make it lose matter, which becomes energy. At least thats my understanding of it..
You split an atom by adding neutrons not by giving it antimatter
PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 8:58 pm


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VorpalNeko
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germanboyno2

PostPosted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 4:49 pm


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 7:23 am


germanboyno2
I thought photons have mass sweatdrop

Get rid of that thought, as it is incorrect.

VorpalNeko
Captain


nonameladyofsins

PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 12:49 pm


VorpalNeko
germanboyno2
I thought photons have mass sweatdrop

Get rid of that thought, as it is incorrect.


so since photons don't have mass... how do we measure their momentum?
PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 2:43 pm


We messure there momentum as c the speed of light.
If they had mass, there momentum wouldnt be the terminal velocity of matter-energy in this universe. Due to the principals of general relitivity ^_^.
Plus the resonance patern for string photons is one of no mass.
One could posiby even say that the mas-less-ness of photons is what makes there wave particle duality so redaly observed.

Quantumjitters


VorpalNeko
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 3:01 am


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 2:27 pm


VorpalNeko
germanboyno2
I thought photons have mass sweatdrop

Get rid of that thought, as it is incorrect.
I thought they had a rest mass of 0 but when moving they have a very minute mass

germanboyno2


Layra-chan
Crew

PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 8:01 pm


germanboyno2
VorpalNeko
germanboyno2
I thought photons have mass sweatdrop

Get rid of that thought, as it is incorrect.
I thought they had a rest mass of 0 but when moving they have a very minute mass


Not considering the fact that it is rather pointless to talk about the rest mass of a photon, anything with rest-mass 0 would have mass 0 in all frames, as observed mass is proportional to rest-mass.
Furthermore, since photons always move at the speed of light, according to STR if they had positive mass in any frame then they would have infinite energy, as their energy at the speed of light is proportional to their mass divided by 0.
And no, they're not allowed to have infinitesimal mass.
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