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are YOU? (annoyed that is)
  No. I mean, Gackt IS the best.
  It's so hard to pick just one era .... yes I am annoyed.
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TrinityBloodrain

PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2006 12:40 pm


there are girls out there who think they are the greatest malice mizer fnas out there, but that's just because of Gackt. I had a friend who was a true Malice mizer fan, appreciated every era for the music, and she was banned from another Malice mizer guild because of the following reason::

You're not a true fan!! Only someone who worships the ground that Gackt walks on is a TRUE MM fan!! Because you like Klaha, you don't like MM enough to be in this guild.

Or soemthing like that ....
either way ..... has anyone else seens little Gackt fangrils claiming that they're 'true' fans?? O.o and who else is a little annoyed by it?
PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2006 1:34 pm


That's just pathetic. D: Jeez.

I personally like Klaha the most out of MM's vocalists. domokun

I'm kinda annoyed by seeing the name "Gackt" beside every Malice Mizer thing I happen to come across on the internet. It's starting to irritate me. ._.;

Yoshi.The.Overshadowed
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Cohcho the Empress
Crew

PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2006 4:42 pm


i dislike gackt fangirls who put down other artists because "they can not possibly be better than gackt in any way".
PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2006 4:45 pm


I get annoyed by that too. I mean, I Love Gackt. But I don't love him more then any of the other band members. Gackt was an important part of Malice Mizer, but not more important then any of the other vocalists and band members. Gackt isn't Malice Mizer. He isn't what MADE the band. And people who believe so can't call themselves true MM fans.

It really pisses me off when I hear people saying things like, "Tetsu was ear torture! Gackt is the BEST!!!" They just say that because they have no true appreciation for talents that aren't... "normal" is the only word I can think of right now.

I admit I have "fangirl" moments... but I don't just listen to a band because of their looks alone. The actual MUSIC and the lyrics are what make a band, not just a sexy body and a pretty face.

<___< Yeah... I'll just stop my ranting there. >__< My rants never come out right..... >.< It's like... different in my head... <__< Then when I go to rant it like.... yeah... all... bleh.

~Moi-meme-Moitie~
Vice Captain


The Magus Sisters

PostPosted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 8:20 pm


I prefer the Gackt era. I just really like his voice~ but there is NO WAY, that Tetsu and Klaha are anywhere near bad. They are both also amazing. (I loves Tetsu heart heart heart heart heart ) All three of them are amazing.
PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 12:14 am


I will admit, though I love Gackt's voice, Klaha had a better voice and a better image for Malice Mizer. I mean, yes, Gackt's era was a pretty damn good one, but goodness... Klaha's voice literally makes me melt. Gackt is better off being a solo artist and not looking so...gothic. I prefer him .. clean-ish.

jrockislove


Insontis_Exitium

PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 3:39 pm


Welcome to the wonderful world of one of my closest friends. She hates Klaha era because he took Gackt's place and she hates classical music and organs and therefore hates all of Bara no Seidou (which is also a lie because she likes at least 2 songs from said album)
She likes all the Klaha era singles. sweatdrop I tried broadening her horizons a bit, but at least she appreciates Tetsu now.
PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 3:47 pm


~Moi-meme-Moitie~

It really pisses me off when I hear people saying things like, "Tetsu was ear torture! Gackt is the BEST!!!" They just say that because they have no true appreciation for talents that aren't... "normal" is the only word I can think of right now.

You mean like, if it doesn't fit into the generic "this is how all popular jrock vocalists must sound" category? Tetsu's voice had unique qualities. Some people like those qualities, some don't. It's like the vibrato is Gackt or Jui's voices, some people find that really annoying, others love it.

~Moi-meme-Moitie~
I admit I have "fangirl" moments... but I don't just listen to a band because of their looks alone. The actual MUSIC and the lyrics are what make a band, not just a sexy body and a pretty face.
EXACTLY and that's what annoys me about a lot of so called fans in my area. They ramble about "OMGWTFBBQ! MANORZ IZ TEH SECKKS! STFUOMG! SO IZ KIOW ND TOESHIYUH ND ROOKEE!" and then if you try discussing certain things about the music...silence. -_-'

Insontis_Exitium


Your_NewLunarDoll

Toothsome Elder

PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 7:26 am


manorz xD


Mm... one has to realize that no one knows what Malice Mizer is in Japan anymore. So I've gotten a lot of "That one likes Gackt", when I've tried to explain to my host family that I don't like him now (too much plastic surgery. NO SERIOUSLY LOOK AT HIM. and he can't write music anymore. What happened??). So the fangirl response is kind of the norm.

However, I do appreciate Gackt era more than the others because I always felt like Gackt wore the costumes the best. Klaha always looked so awkward. He had no color, and he often moved very stiffly... his lyrical content (when undirected by Mana) was also Very Much of out keeping the band's character. Gackt blended very well. I feel that this is why they became as famous as they did.

Also, I feel that one can't knock the Gackt obssessed fans. A lot of us started out that way (DO NOT DENY IT Dx ). They just need time. If they're still thinking about MM in a year, they won't be thinking the same way. Promise.
PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 6:38 pm


Insontis_Exitium
~Moi-meme-Moitie~

It really pisses me off when I hear people saying things like, "Tetsu was ear torture! Gackt is the BEST!!!" They just say that because they have no true appreciation for talents that aren't... "normal" is the only word I can think of right now.

You mean like, if it doesn't fit into the generic "this is how all popular jrock vocalists must sound" category? Tetsu's voice had unique qualities. Some people like those qualities, some don't. It's like the vibrato is Gackt or Jui's voices, some people find that really annoying, others love it.

~Moi-meme-Moitie~
I admit I have "fangirl" moments... but I don't just listen to a band because of their looks alone. The actual MUSIC and the lyrics are what make a band, not just a sexy body and a pretty face.
EXACTLY and that's what annoys me about a lot of so called fans in my area. They ramble about "OMGWTFBBQ! MANORZ IZ TEH SECKKS! STFUOMG! SO IZ KIOW ND TOESHIYUH ND ROOKEE!" and then if you try discussing certain things about the music...silence. -_-'


Yup, we get that too. Makoto and I were watching my Malice Mizer DVD's in Anime Club I think it was around the begining of this year. Our friends wanted NOTHING to do with Jrock or even Jpop. They were all about Anime. We had showed them Dir en Grey, Aya, Kana, Miyavi, Tsuchiya Anna, Ayumi Hamasaki, Gackt, Gazette and tons of other bands, and yet still, they wanted nothing to do with it. They didn't even pay attention to Malice Mizer until it got to "Ju te Veux" and they saw Mana. And the thing is, they like "Happy Music" as we named it. The kind of music alot of Anime's have. Ju te Veux just so happened to catch their attention, and of course we had to correct them and tell them Mana was, in fact, a man.

The VERY next day. I mean wow, the next day, they all come waltzing in "OMG!!! I LOVE MANA!!! HE IS TEH GOD!! I WORSHIP HIM!!" Makoto and I were like, Wtf? I suppose the fact that they were all Yaoi fangirls didn't help matters.

This one girl, omg she pissed me off. I have a binder with some pictures of Jrockers. I don't even like the girl, she's one of those leech types. She'll just keep talking to you... and talking to you and talking to you only because your the only one who's nice to her. I was going through said pictures, telling her about some of the Jrock bands and such. But as soon as she saw Mana, it was all over. From their on, she ONLY cared about Mana. But the thing is, she was worse then the others because she didn't KNOW anything about him. She admitted it. She never even BOTHERED to download some Malice Mizer or Moi Dix Mois songs. I mean, still, to this day, I have to remind her that Mana does not sing, he plays the Guitar. I'll be talking about say... Gackt, and she'll be like, "I like Mana singing better" And I'm like, wtf? I just told you yestruday he doesnt sing! And she'll be like, "Oh? Then whats he do?" -__- And I know she doesn t have mental issues because she gets better grades then I do. A few months ago I was reading Gackt's Autobiography thing because I was effing bored, and I was telling her about Gackt's dramatic near death experiance and how he claims he can see spirits because of it, and she says, "I don't care, but if it was Mana I would care." -__- Yeah, I went off on her after that. =/ Seriously, how can she say that when shes ONLY seen pictures of him! o__o

But yes, back to the other people. Anyways, yes.... now they all have pictures of Mana all over their room, their locker and binders, bought some Malice Mizer CD's and DVD's and all that, and continue to go on about how great Mana is. =/ Oddly enough, they don't pay a bit of attention to Moi Dix Mois. I haven't heard then say one thing about it!
And Whenever Makoto and I talk about Moi Dix Mois, Moi-meme-Moitie, or about anything relating to the actual MUSIC, they change the subject.

=/ Same thing with other Jrock bands. We've been trying for months to get them into OTHER Jrock bands too, because, as much as I love Malice Mizer (which is ALOT) I DO like TONS of other Jrock bands as well. =/ You can't just attach yourself to ONE abnd like that. Because you can't really appreciate their talent if you can't recognize other bands talents. There would be nothing to compare them too! And it would (sadly) get boring after a while. Every Anime club we've had lately, we'd play PV's from other Jrock bands, and they go off to the other side of the room. We put on Malice Mizer, they swarm back, "Oh look! Theres Mana!~~ *squeal*" Video's over, we go to another band, they walk away again. =/ Really annoying. And another thing is... they don't even LIKE the Tetsu or Klaha Era! =/

o__O I love Mana, practically worship the man, but wow... <___< They just... <__< I don't know what kind of word I should use for them -__-

-__- Anyways.... Im done ranting now... <__<

>__< I just can't stand people like that!

<__< But I might be getting to worked up over it though..... sweatdrop

~Moi-meme-Moitie~
Vice Captain


Your_NewLunarDoll

Toothsome Elder

PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 7:11 am


Well- about the mana fangirls... at least they're interested at all I suppose? Even if it's not in a way that a "true fan" would like...?
PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 2:12 pm


Pretty ridiculous. It's perfectly possible to be a fan of something without liking every aspect of it, but to actually make an opinion into a fact is too far.

I personally first heard of Malice Mizer through Klaha's Shiroi, and I didn't like it at all at first. When I found out Gackt was the second vocalist, I started liking MM more, then I got used to Klaha and Tetsu.

One can not call themself a true fan if they do not respect other people's opinions about their personal likings.

[Envy v.4]


burntoutmatches

PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 3:48 pm


Well I kinda hate Gackt b/c of that since he's a pretty boy.And I don't like them b/c of him.I'm a huge fan of the creatures of the band,Kozi and Mana.I havent heard the songs from the Tetsu era but i will soon.As for the fangirls who think that are Malice Mizer fans,can they name another songs that they made that didnt have the lyrics of Gackt? I always and forever will love Mana's and Kozi's lyrics since they are the ones that started this band after leaving their last band.Bet some of the fan girls didnt know that,did they? ^_^ But i dont hate them,just dislike how they say,"I'm a Huge Malice Mizer fan."


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 8:22 pm


im sorry for wht im going to say both gack is a mother ******** he left the band for a solo carer i hate him so much... sweatdrop sorry for people you love gack

miko__hellsing


~Moi-meme-Moitie~
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 8:47 pm


darth_nihilus_miko
im sorry for wht im going to say both gack is a mother ******** he left the band for a solo carer i hate him so much... sweatdrop sorry for people you love gack


=/ Well you can't really hate thim for that. He chose a solo career because he thought he could get farther with it. In Malice Mizer he couldn't reach his full potential (says he) and besides that, he was sort of in Mana's shadow. Mana-sama is a control freak, and I think Gackt is sort of one too, two control freaks in one band doesn't really work out.

<__< Or something like that... o__o Dunno if that came out right.

And also, if you don't like Gackt you can't hate him for leaving the band... o__O Because if you don't like him why would you care if he left the band?
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