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 Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 1:06 pm
I fully acknowledge that this is completely juvenile, and as an adult and a serious student of the martial arts, I should be above such things. But I'm not, and that's the problem. blaugh
When doing any kind of stand-up drills or sparring, the gender of my partner is irrelevant. It wasn't always, but I was broken of my reluctance to hit girls way back in my TMA days by a woman who had no patience or tolerance for such things, and would mercilessly beat the crap out of me if she caught me holding back. So that's a non-issue these days.
Grappling and groundfighting is another story altogether. I always try to avoid grappling with girls (which, of course, isn't always possible), because it's just so damn distracting. Especially when fighting from guard, or in any technique that involves a lot of legwork. And yes, I always keep it professional and academic, but I'm male, and I'm straight, and my mind goes places. I do stay focused, but it takes effort, which diverts mental energy away from actually learning.
It wouldn't be so bad if martial arts girls weren't so hot, but I've never met one that wasn't. ninja heart
Yeah, like I said. Juvenile. I admit it.
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 8:23 pm
I could do anything but grapple with a girl. Simply because I fear if she thinks "I can get a cheap dollar by screaming grope."
I dont need that hastle in my life.
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 8:46 pm
Well, the only full on "grappaling" fight I was in was a judo fight (that's sounds like it's worded wrong, but it's late, so I'm excused) was with my friend outside of class, he takes martial arts, and we've both learned some judo techniques, and have been in judo matches before,...so it's not like we didn't know what we were doing.
But I guess I can't really contribute to this topic seeing how I am a girl.
From a girl's perspective, all I was thinking was, "I can't let him beat me".
And from something else mentioned in the post, yes. I purposly beat on guys that I know are holding back just beacuse I'm a girl...
Although, I suppose it could be different, considering the fact that I'm only 16.
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Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 8:20 am
Sorry, guys....ya won't get any 'no girls' talk from me.
If a girl is going to seriously do martial arts, she's gotta get over the touchies! I've been nailed in the chest in sparring...it hurt, so what. There are women who get really incensed at such a thing, but I keep it firm in my mind that I'm in a man's world, and cannot expect any quarter from them for being female. Not only is it arrogant, but it trains the female to expect a lesser reaction from a RL attacker. I would much rather assume that a potential attacker is going to be bigger than me, and determined to do whatever he chooses. The guys in the dojo don't like to 'play' with me....
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Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 8:26 am
Threx I could do anything but grapple with a girl. Simply because I fear if she thinks "I can get a cheap dollar by screaming grope." I dont need that hastle in my life. Oooo. The nasty topic of sexual harrassment in the dojo. I've seen both sides of that mess, not personally mind you, but as an instructor I have to be very careful about touching a student. There has been occasion where I've had to, for example, correct a woman's chambering position of her hand and accidently brushed against her bosom. It's of course a little embarrassing, but most people come in knowing that it's a contact art and no one's going to to try to grope someone in the middle of class. Grappling does raise a nasty problem. My grappling is limited. My experience has granted me the ability to go into a pure technical mode where distractions like having to handle a female body don't come into play. On that same note, I was raised into martial arts, so such contact does not affect my thinking at all.
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Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 12:20 pm
Martial arts is martial arts. Sex is sex. Yeah, if I'm grappling with a cute guy, I might get a little rush. I'd get the same rush from shaking his friggin' hand. And let me tell you, honestly in that situation I'd want to impress the guy by doing well in the match. If I'm intent on doing martial arts, my attention just is not on whose nono bits are where. I will do my best not to ding you in the crotch because I know that hurts like hell. I assume you will do your best not to ding me in the crotch for the same reason. Being whacked full in the chest does not faze me and never has.
And, as was mentioned before, please by all means don't hold back on me. All that does is train me to be a lesser martial artist. And trust me, when I get home and get in a sparring match with someone who *won't* hold back, all your caution will only amount to severe PITA.
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Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 1:23 pm
Heh Wow I've been in that position before...
Personally I don't mind being handled roughly and being in awkard positions during grappling or sparring. this is a way to get yourself out of a tight spot, even how distrubing it may be.
However when I'm with a cute guy (for example, my ex-rival Justin) I didn't mind... because back there he was the only one my age and size. I liked him alot but he didn't like me like that.. but I still had the thoughts.... >.>; Anway, if it is just a 30 something year old cop I don't mind.. but if it is is a cute guy that I've had a crush on for like forever, then I try to stay focused..
And to me.. getting hit in the breasts with a backkick even when the chest protector on hurts.. The pain didn't go away till like an hour later...
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 3:01 am
note to self: when in crisis situation versus a woman, go for the boobies! xd
^^;
Sorry. Err, you know... You do try not to hold back. It's sometimes harder than you think. I mean, you WANT to be a nice guy. You do.
And you know that she doesn't want you to hold back.
But then, you don't want to be the guy that does actually hurt her.
I kicked a girl in the would-be nads once, she seemed in more agony than I ever would have been...
But to get back on track, when for instance practicing kendo, it really doesn't matter to me. It's a way of taking distance from the actual person and just seeing the physical presence.
When practicing judo, of course... I usually think that thank god they're wearing shirts underneath... 'cause otherwise....
Mind you, it would be a very effective testing of focus... I just don't think I'd pass it.
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Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 4:59 am
I'm used to sparring with both sexes. I don't mind fighting a guy. Most guys our size (my sparring partner and I) are weaker than us... Besides, strength doesn't really matter if you know your techniques.
With the whole touching thing... I'm thinking too much about the fight than about "I hope he won't touch me". Like someone said, it's expected in MA...
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 1:58 pm
JoshuaKenzo note to self: when in crisis situation versus a woman, go for the boobies! xd Go for our breasts we go for where the sun don't shine for ya'll... But yeah I heard it does hurt being kicked in the crotch for a female.. this girl said she got kicked there and she was bleeding, something about her breaking something... Owie.... When I get kicked down there it doesn't hurt... Hmm...
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 7:29 pm
Moonlight Penguin JoshuaKenzo note to self: when in crisis situation versus a woman, go for the boobies! xd Go for our breasts we go for where the sun don't shine for ya'll... But yeah I heard it does hurt being kicked in the crotch for a female.. this girl said she got kicked there and she was bleeding, something about her breaking something... Owie.... When I get kicked down there it doesn't hurt... Hmm... I only go for the boobies during private grappling sessions... ...at home... ...in bed... ..uh, nevermind.
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 9:54 am
phi one zero Moonlight Penguin JoshuaKenzo note to self: when in crisis situation versus a woman, go for the boobies! xd Go for our breasts we go for where the sun don't shine for ya'll... But yeah I heard it does hurt being kicked in the crotch for a female.. this girl said she got kicked there and she was bleeding, something about her breaking something... Owie.... When I get kicked down there it doesn't hurt... Hmm... I only go for the boobies during private grappling sessions... ...at home... ...in bed... ..uh, nevermind. Too much information. My little virgin eyes don't need to read that! blaugh (The saying works better when you're hearing something, it doesn't work as well when it's adjusted for reading. Hahaha xd )
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 10:02 am
It does not matter.....Opponent is opponent. when u fight or grapple just remeber u r there to DESTROY THE ENEMY!! scream
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 10:58 am
TheGurentai It does not matter.....Opponent is opponent. when u fight or grapple just remeber u r there to DESTROY THE ENEMY!! scream I have no enemies, and the people I train with are most certainly not my enemies. They're all friends.
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 3:55 pm
phi one zero Moonlight Penguin JoshuaKenzo note to self: when in crisis situation versus a woman, go for the boobies! xd Go for our breasts we go for where the sun don't shine for ya'll... But yeah I heard it does hurt being kicked in the crotch for a female.. this girl said she got kicked there and she was bleeding, something about her breaking something... Owie.... When I get kicked down there it doesn't hurt... Hmm... I only go for the boobies during private grappling sessions... ...at home... ...in bed... ..uh, nevermind. TMI love.. eek TM friggin I.... Horny lil' bakayero... *sigh*
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