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 Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 2:26 pm
The whole point of visual kei:
...it's not just a musical thing. It was created by people who were held down by society and eventually snapped. XD
...People named Yoshiki and hide. =D.
The whole point of visual kei is to show you don't conform with society, that you're an individual. It's commonly associated with music, but it's 'visual kei', so therefore, it's anybody who looks the way they want to and holds themselves high.
Japan is all about conforming. I mean, there are certain places in large cities where you can express yourself freely and nobody cares (ex: Shibuya), but if you live in a small town, you're expected to look, act and talk a certain way. And if you don't, you're outcasted and considered insane.
For example, the other day when my friend there was getting some coffee down the road, some kid was getting rocks thrown at him by other kids because he had a spiked collar on. My friend noticed that one of the kids' mothers yelled at her kid who was throwing rocks...but she was yelling at him because he missed. She was saying basically "yeah, you kill that dog. Human beings don't look like that."
It's sad, really....which is why visual kei is a good thing!
Just like randomly posting it, plus it's about visual kei, therefore...
Let me know what you think, or mods, delete it if it needs deleted, whatever.
I thought it would make an interesting topic.
Self-Edit: It's not a good thing because the kid got hit by rocks, it's a good thing to express individuality. Individuality, and emotion are what drive the human spirit.
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Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 11:40 pm
It's odd, how the transfer of cultures works. VK had origins here in the US with KISS, and America was shocked, but we adapted. Now the youth of Japan has taken a hold onto the concept, and Japan is shocked. That lovely group of islands have been through so much over the last century, it's not surprising the people as a whole are not taking to the VK movement. I try to look at it both ways.
As a lover of VK and the brashness of the music that comes with it, there are those who do their own conforming to express their love of the styles, music, and ideas. To them, it's a way of breaking free of tradition and a culture that feels suffocating.
But then, look how highly the elderly are thought upon. Families will still take in their elderly parents instead of pushing them off into homes to be cared for by strangers. So in general, the older Japanese may feel the style and even music goes against all they've accomplished, or all they've tried to instill in the younger generations. It might even seem as a rebellion to them personally, not just to the strict conformity of Asia.
I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with any of it. America was much the same way when Hard Rock came in, remember? It was thought of as Devil's Music. I'm not surprised other countries may feel the same, especially considering the popularity the VK bands have recieved in such a short amount of time.
Food for thought, nyaa?
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 8:43 pm
I have yet to understand WHY people can't just except others...I mean even ignore it... Everyone HAS to fit in and I beleive that is wrong. Conformity only takes away individuality and seriously do we want everyone to look the same, act the same and Basically be the same...that would suck wouldn't it?
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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 12:48 pm
Totchikun I have yet to understand WHY people can't just except others...I mean even ignore it... Everyone HAS to fit in and I beleive that is wrong. Conformity only takes away individuality and seriously do we want everyone to look the same, act the same and Basically be the same...that would suck wouldn't it?
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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 12:52 pm
ForbiddenMana The whole point of visual kei:
...it's not just a musical thing. It was created by people who were held down by society and eventually snapped. XD
...People named Yoshiki and hide. =D.
The whole point of visual kei is to show you don't conform with society, that you're an individual. It's commonly associated with music, but it's 'visual kei', so therefore, it's anybody who looks the way they want to and holds themselves high.
Japan is all about conforming. I mean, there are certain places in large cities where you can express yourself freely and nobody cares (ex: Shibuya), but if you live in a small town, you're expected to look, act and talk a certain way. And if you don't, you're outcasted and considered insane.
For example, the other day when my friend there was getting some coffee down the road, some kid was getting rocks thrown at him by other kids because he had a spiked collar on. My friend noticed that one of the kids' mothers yelled at her kid who was throwing rocks...but she was yelling at him because he missed. She was saying basically "yeah, you kill that dog. Human beings don't look like that."
It's sad, really....which is why visual kei is a good thing!
Just like randomly posting it, plus it's about visual kei, therefore...
Let me know what you think, or mods, delete it if it needs deleted, whatever.
I thought it would make an interesting topic.
Self-Edit: It's not a good thing because the kid got hit by rocks, it's a good thing to express individuality. Individuality, and emotion are what drive the human spirit.
It's you!~
I see you decided to immigrate right to this guild xD
I guess that means Prose is officially dead? =/I'mnotcrazy--Ipromise!~
We've met before xD
This is my new account--I was Kai-ra.
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Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 4:07 pm
Hmm~...
Yeah, it's an expression of individuality, sometimes all visual kei starts to look the same though...but that's true for anything. You try and be original but others are doing the same original thing as you, and you're not really original anymore.
Oh, and Yoshiki and hide didn't really think up visual kei in Japan...Yeah, it got a lot of origins from the US from KISS and such, as someone said, but X-Japan wasn't the band to start visual kei in Japan, there were others that were doing visual kei at the time, X-Japan was just the first to make it big and gain it recognition..so Yoshiki and hide deserve credit for making it big, but they didn't exactly create it. :/
...And it looks awesome. xD So yeah...
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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 7:13 pm
Just because I'm obsessed with thread clean up, who wants the thread to stay. If people wnat it to stay then It'll stay fine. But I think it's dead by now and it's not really a genereall enough topic, that's not the right wording but you get the idea whee
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Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 7:18 am
Good god, I had no idea Japan was like that @____@
That sucks.
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