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which watase "bad guy/gal" do you hate most?
nakago
25%
 25%  [ 19 ]
yui hongo
9%
 9%  [ 7 ]
kagami mikage
10%
 10%  [ 8 ]
shiso mikage (the progenitor)
10%
 10%  [ 8 ]
darva
9%
 9%  [ 7 ]
mayura seno
2%
 2%  [ 2 ]
erika yanahara
32%
 32%  [ 25 ]
Total Votes : 76


Ancient~Waffle

PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 5:22 pm


okay...i just thought of this and i actually dont really know why im making this thread but you can talk about the villains of watase-sama's series...you can say how much you hate them, how much you love them (hehe) and dont forget to justify your opinion 3nodding it doesnt have to be the main "villain" of course. it can be...lets call em "sub-villains for now" lol...like some of the seiryu warriors, the maram masters, people involved in the c-genome project...you get the point sweatdrop

the "bad guys" of her manga and often justified in the end (did erika yanahara? sweatdrop ) uhh...i just forgot what i was gonna say about that too! xp but yea, dont forget to vote (getting 10g? why wouldnt you want to...oh man i got a bad feeling about putting erika in there lol ) and i think ill start this off...

my top 4 hated
1. erika yanahara
2.shiso/kagami mikage
3. nakago
4. mayura seno


shiso and erika are so close together that if i think about it really hard i dont know if i could choose xp aack, sensei why do you make everything so indecisive?? so mayura didnt bug me a lot...except for the whole mudoru brand thing...nakago..i feel kinda apathetic towards him for some reason sweatdrop and...yea, thats all my opinion for now sweatdrop ive only read the manga releaseed in english so far so...can't really say much for zettai kareshi, oishi study...etc etc redface

PS, for the people i put in the poll...i really just based them off the stereotypes of villains...you know, against the protagonist really is all i did sweatdrop so for people that became good at the end...im sorry! if anyone can tell me that i should delete so-n-so from the poll thatd be ok 3nodding
PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 5:57 pm


I like Erica the least. She was just annoying, and weak on top of that. So yeah, I didn't like her. Even at the end, when she tried to "make it up" to Koki and Tanpopo, I didn't like her. The two suicide attempts completely killed any hope she might've had for me to like her in the least. Oh, well, not a big loss for me. All the rest don't bug me so much now, but I will admit I hate the fact that Nakago lied so much to Yui. And the people in the "C-Genome" project all annoy me. It's not the fact that they're doing tests using test subjects. It's the fact that they're going to use their subjects to take over the world. Oh, and the fact that it strikes me as stupid that they're selectively breeding them as if they're horses or some other domestic animal.

NightIntent
Vice Captain


Hotaru-hime

PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 7:53 pm


Nakago kicks all sorts of a**. However, I don't think i can forgive him... ripped a hole in my heart with all those unnecessary deaths.
the others all suck, but I hate/love Nakago the most out of them.
Such development!
PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 12:04 pm


I don't really have such a big hate for any Watase's villians (for some reason, they dont annoy me much =P). But I really do hate Miaka, Tamahome (*is killed by Tamahome's fans*), Tooya - the one that I hate the most stressed stressed (*gets cut to pieces by Tooya's fans*) and Soushi.
Reasons of why I hate them:

Miaka and Tamahome/Taka (specially Taka):
Here is en example of their normal conversation
Miaka: Tamahome...
Tama: Miaka...
Miaka: Tamahome...
Tama: Miaka...
Miaka: Tamahome...
How can you not hate them? stare

Tooya:
Maybe the fact that I watched the AnC anime instead of reading the manga makes me hate him even more. He's just too perfect that it annoys me. He's so cold and serious that it annoys me too. And Aya falls in love with him for no reason. stare

Soushi:
scream DON'T KISS RIIKO WHEN SHE BELONGS TO NIGHT!!!! scream

Erm... talking about the pool, I voted for Erika. xp

Takiko-chan


Ancient~Waffle

PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 5:59 pm


lol xd lol

that was hilarious *wipes tears from eyes*
...well, erm...yea sweatdrop *cough*me=tama&toya fan*cough* but i can still understand what you're saying 3nodding i never really liked how aya and toya fell in love either...its like, "oh my hero, you're so hot and you saved me! lets make out heart " really, during that part in volume 2 of the manga i got a bit annoyed when they started making out in his apartment...i accept them as a couple now though
i have yet to read zettai kareshi crying (thats where soushi, riiko, and night are from right?)
PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 7:38 am


XxfushigipinayxX
lol xd lol

that was hilarious *wipes tears from eyes*
...well, erm...yea sweatdrop *cough*me=tama&toya fan*cough* but i can still understand what you're saying 3nodding i never really liked how aya and toya fell in love either...its like, "oh my hero, you're so hot and you saved me! lets make out heart " really, during that part in volume 2 of the manga i got a bit annoyed when they started making out in his apartment...i accept them as a couple now though
i have yet to read zettai kareshi crying (thats where soushi, riiko, and night are from right?)


Yup 3nodding I bet you've heard about the Shoujo Beat magazine, Zettai Kareshi is gonna be published in it as Absolute Boyfriend. 3nodding Haha... that sucks so much *kills Viz*
I wanted to finish reading it on Shoujo Magic to save my money, and waiting for it to reach volume 5 will take forever.... stare

Takiko-chan


Ancient~Waffle

PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 4:16 pm


Takiko-chan
XxfushigipinayxX
lol xd lol

that was hilarious *wipes tears from eyes*
...well, erm...yea sweatdrop *cough*me=tama&toya fan*cough* but i can still understand what you're saying 3nodding i never really liked how aya and toya fell in love either...its like, "oh my hero, you're so hot and you saved me! lets make out heart " really, during that part in volume 2 of the manga i got a bit annoyed when they started making out in his apartment...i accept them as a couple now though
i have yet to read zettai kareshi crying (thats where soushi, riiko, and night are from right?)


Yup 3nodding I bet you've heard about the Shoujo Beat magazine, Zettai Kareshi is gonna be published in it as Absolute Boyfriend. 3nodding Haha... that sucks so much *kills Viz*
I wanted to finish reading it on Shoujo Magic to save my money, and waiting for it to reach volume 5 will take forever.... stare

eh...i guess i think viz is good cuz they got to publish watase's work sweatdrop if tokyopop had got to her first i wonder what wouldve happened...ah well. i buy both of their products but i started with tokyopop cuz i was a little sailor moon girl xp then i got to viz because of FY and i dont wanna tell that whole story again so yea! xd whoa...now that i look at it, everything i have from viz is just her work! sweatdrop wait...nope, i have saikano volume 1 (im just gonna get the anime) and x/1999 2 and 3 xp
where'd the original topic go?? sweatdrop ah villains...i wonder when the next AnC comes out... surprised ill go to the site right now...
PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 11:15 pm


In a couple of the cases- the ones I have copied- I don't see precisely why they are considered villains:
nakago- Sure he was out for number one, but look at his past. He was the Emporer's lap dog because of a character on his forehead and the power he held. He may have left a path of blood, but if he didn't, it is hard to say what the emperor of that land would have done.

yui hongo-She was manipulated to believing Miaka was the enemy. She even admitted she probably wouldn't have pursued Tamahome as hard as she did in the end if not for their friendship/ rivalry that some friends have.

mayura seno- Like Yui, she was manipulated. She was pulled into the darkness by Alice's words of bitterness. Yes she did put a curse on the guy she supposedly loved, but she realized in the end that Alice's feelings were genuine and she loved him more than Mayura ever could.

I don't know much about Kagami and Shisho because I am trying to read volume four of Ceres, but am not in the mood for it and I don't know Erica/ anything about Imadoki. So I went with Darva. Darkness in the purest form.

Twilightbluerose


Takiko-chan

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 7:22 am


Twilightbluerose
In a couple of the cases- the ones I have copied- I don't see precisely why they are considered villains:
nakago- Sure he was out for number one, but look at his past. He was the Emporer's lap dog because of a character on his forehead and the power he held. He may have left a path of blood, but if he didn't, it is hard to say what the emperor of that land would have done.

yui hongo-She was manipulated to believing Miaka was the enemy. She even admitted she probably wouldn't have pursued Tamahome as hard as she did in the end if not for their friendship/ rivalry that some friends have.

mayura seno- Like Yui, she was manipulated. She was pulled into the darkness by Alice's words of bitterness. Yes she did put a curse on the guy she supposedly loved, but she realized in the end that Alice's feelings were genuine and she loved him more than Mayura ever could.

I don't know much about Kagami and Shisho because I am trying to read volume four of Ceres, but am not in the mood for it and I don't know Erica/ anything about Imadoki. So I went with Darva. Darkness in the purest form.


I agree that Yui and Mayura aren't evil people, but for Nakago, it isn't enought excuses for him being a badass. xp
PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 11:08 am


I fell that Nakago was the worse, but then again i can't remeber all the other villans names, or who they were. HE JUST WOULDN'T DIE!!! Then aftyer that blow during the battle Soi jumped infromt of him, but that was sweet. She really did love him, and he did honor her memory. So.. i guess he wasn't so bad. Does anyone remember that scene from Nakago's past where he went into the emperors room and his herm was teasing him, then i think you see him later in a bed half naked... i believe maybe that was the scene. It's been 3 years since i've seen Fushigi Yuugi.

PanPan-chan


onigiri_riceball

PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 6:32 pm


the progenitor is the one I like to hate the most....if that makes sense
PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 12:57 pm


PanPan-chan
I fell that Nakago was the worse, but then again i can't remeber all the other villans names, or who they were. HE JUST WOULDN'T DIE!!! Then aftyer that blow during the battle Soi jumped infromt of him, but that was sweet. She really did love him, and he did honor her memory. So.. i guess he wasn't so bad. Does anyone remember that scene from Nakago's past where he went into the emperors room and his herm was teasing him, then i think you see him later in a bed half naked... i believe maybe that was the scene. It's been 3 years since i've seen Fushigi Yuugi.
In my opinion when it comes to the Seiryu Seven, it took a while to realize they weren't all vile. Ashitare- for killing Nuriko- and Miboshi- for his acts, including possessing Chiriko- were the worse. Yes, Nakago did have some cruel acts, but the scenes in the manga where he was explaining what happened, did soften the blow slightly for his acts. I haven't seen the anime, but the way his treatment was depicted in the manga did actually solidify some feelings toward him.

And I have done it again. Talking about a character like they're real. But that is one of the things I do like about Ms. Watase's work. She makes many of her characters feel real, even after the arc or story ends.

Twilightbluerose


Tak300

PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 5:40 pm


onigiri_riceball
the progenitor is the one I like to hate the most....if that makes sense


Now see...I like him, I just wish he was not her borther, I mean...that gets kinda on the creepy side form time to time sweatdrop .

But the person I can not stand the most is Erika. She so....b***h and. AH! I just cant stan her!
PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 9:34 am


That's hard. The ones I hate most in order are:
Erika
Shiso
Kagami
Nakago

furubafreak


violentdarling

Dapper Informer

PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 4:19 pm


out of the most...i hate erika with a passion. she tried to break up koki and tanpopo....which got me mad!! THen when they don't break up their so called friendship, then she tries to kill herself....she went over the line. But no....she had to break them up again, then kill herself again...but fails. I hope Yu doesnt make another chara. like her again!!! domokun
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