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 Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 4:07 pm
On the mystic path. During the unfolding of enlightenment there are many twists, turns, and tests. I am of the understanding that wisdom is like an oceanwhere you witness the great vastness and deepth of the oceanwhen the water is calm and all is still while foolishness is like being one with the crashing waves and because you are near the surface you cannot understand what lies beneath you may even be afraid for in mystery therein lays the great beast of fear. Now with that said, It is possible to attain this state of mind of nirvana in one lifetime however it is my understanding that once you have achieved this attainment your time is neigh and you must recant in which a new disiple may arise to the golden illumination. So what must we do with the time we are given once our most sacred task is done?
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Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 4:27 pm
CrimsonGrimm It is possible to attain this state of mind of nirvana in one lifetime...what must we do with the time we are given once our most sacred task is done?
I'm not a huge follower of Eastern belief and philosophy from where the idea of nirvana comes from, but I"ll take a stab at an answer; I'd say no. The whole idea behind being here is to try and attain nirvana. Even the Buddah, who was a real man who achieved enlightenment, had many lifetimes before this one to figure out how to achieve nirvana. He's not a God, but a man who became a God. Therefore he must have had many lives to achieve nirvana.
As for the second part, what are we supposed to do with our time left after we achieve nirvana, I'd say pass along the bliss as best you can. Teach! It's the greatest gift you could give back to humankind.
Welcome to the guild, btw. ^^ Its' a bit slow, but the discussion is always good.
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Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 11:48 pm
I beg to differ, EldarinStarmist. Buddha is no god. What makes him a buddha is the fact that he rejected godlyhood and became that fat ol' thing we love to rub. Hehe, he's not really that fat. Infact, Gautama was so skinny, it was said that when you poked his stomach you could feel his back bone. The obesity is just symbolism for abundance.
But I digress.
Yes, he must've had help by training in other lives to achieve his final goal of enlihtenment, but it defenitely was not easy. These things never are. :
Buddha understands that being a god would imply some kind of selfishness and too much power for one's good. A buddha is all about love and compassion. Nothing about self and power. He just wants to spread the funkadelic feeling of love, never inferiority. For under the eyes of Buddha we are all the same, we are all souls, we are all loved.
To obtain nirvana you will have to suffer like hell. Nirvana is the ultimate state you are rewarded with when you've achieved total and utter numbness of the self. When you reach nrvana, you go into the Buddhist realm, the pure lands where buddhas run about. Heh. I can easily tell you that no priviledged or comfortable person would ever be able to achieve this in their environment.
I recommend you look up news broadcasts on "Buddha Boy". I think you'll like what you'll find.
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Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 1:43 am
Drewyndara I beg to differ, EldarinStarmist. Buddha is no god. What makes him a buddha is the fact that he rejected godlyhood and became that fat ol' thing we love to rub. Hehe, he's not really that fat. Infact, Gautama was so skinny, it was said that when you poked his stomach you could feel his back bone. The obesity is just symbolism for abundance.
But I digress.
Yes, he must've had help by training in other lives to achieve his final goal of enlihtenment, but it defenitely was not easy. These things never are. :
Buddha understands that being a god would imply some kind of selfishness and too much power for one's good. A buddha is all about love and compassion. Nothing about self and power. He just wants to spread the funkadelic feeling of love, never inferiority. For under the eyes of Buddha we are all the same, we are all souls, we are all loved.
To obtain nirvana you will have to suffer like hell. Nirvana is the ultimate state you are rewarded with when you've achieved total and utter numbness of the self. When you reach nrvana, you go into the Buddhist realm, the pure lands where buddhas run about. Heh. I can easily tell you that no priviledged or comfortable person would ever be able to achieve this in their environment.
I recommend you look up news broadcasts on "Buddha Boy". I think you'll like what you'll find. Actually, all that suffering was the first part of his life when he was an ascetic and that was their way. He was following their ideas that through denial and pain they would acheive enlightenment. However, the buddha realized that the path itself is not defined. One does not have to necessarily follow the buddhas path to acheive nirvana. However, there is a methodology that helps and proper meditation and the act of experiencing things and sacrificing for meditation are all parts of a process that helps the mind to think and acheive the same thing. Buddha was never a god. Actually, I do not beleive the buddha beleived in gods as we see them, as nirvana would seem to be a state of existance where one is connected with everything and becomes a part of the universe. As for what does one do after they acheive enlightenment, experience life. Maybe help teach others. The acheivement of nirvana is not a point of end for a life. I would imagine the conclusion is much like mine. I know where I am going, and time does not matter. This place has a lot to experience and do, and sort of like playing a game out until the end you just do it. Life is a great adventure if you make it one.
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Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 9:41 pm
I would say classically that the way is the goal here.
so, if you are enlightened, have a laugh, watch some movies, and try not to flaunt it too much. after all, enlightenment is a reward, not a task. Those who see how good you are doing will come on to you at their time, and will try to learn. teach through example, not through rules.
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