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BloodOnWhitePetals
Crew

PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2006 7:05 am


That's what I say. Enough with talk about fantasy heroes!

Who is the greatest D&D bad-guy?

I'll cast a vote for Raistlin Majere!
PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2006 7:10 am


i liked the tuigan leader from the Horde set...
i wish i could remember his name...

TheGreatBeast666


Azalin
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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2006 3:55 pm


Well lets see.......Dragonlance, I LOVE Lord Loren Soth, Raistilin, not so much,and Mina. From Forgotten Realms I like Manshoon(The ******** WILL NOT die), Moander (he's now dead), Cyric, and Szass Tam, the Zulikir of Necromancy!, Also Samanaster, he made the Dracolich, And As for Ravenloft Sir Tirsten Hiregaard, he's dual natured, and Azalin, he ******** up EVERYTHING for everybody.
PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2006 4:58 pm


BloodOnWhitePetals
That's what I say. Enough with talk about fantasy heroes!

Who is the greatest D&D bad-guy?

I'll cast a vote for Raistlin Majere!


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Nuff said.

Katau_Selthrim


Azalin
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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2006 8:17 pm


Well What abour Fzoul Chemberyl? He's a priest of the Zhentariam, and he's followed like three gods. Bane, Cyric, and now IYachtu Xvim
PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2006 1:56 pm


Cyric..Killed a god even if it was with godsbane, and if you read the avatar triology he ******** over so many people.

Johnmichael


fantasier_xp

PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2006 6:23 pm


I don't know who most of those characters are, but I LOVE RAISTLIN MAJERE!!!!!!!!!! heart heart heart biggrin
PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2006 11:16 pm


Johnmichael
Cyric..Killed a god even if it was with godsbane, and if you read the avatar triology he ******** over so many people.
The question is who isn't screwed over by Cyric? I mean the entire pantheon of Toril HATES him with a passion, He has no allies, he was once an allied with Jergal, but Kelemvor took over and Jergal switched Alliances to serve Kelemvor.

Azalin
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Johnmichael

PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 1:02 am


Azalin
Johnmichael
Cyric..Killed a god even if it was with godsbane, and if you read the avatar triology he ******** over so many people.
The question is who isn't screwed over by Cyric? I mean the entire pantheon of Toril HATES him with a passion, He has no allies, he was once an allied with Jergal, but Kelemvor took over and Jergal switched Alliances to serve Kelemvor.


Exactly even the other evil gods hate him, and since his own book drove him mad he thinks hes the center of the universe, Also in the Faiths and Avatar book it says his favorite drink is the tears of broken hearted lovers.
PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 7:06 am


Johnmichael
Azalin
Johnmichael
Cyric..Killed a god even if it was with godsbane, and if you read the avatar triology he ******** over so many people.
The question is who isn't screwed over by Cyric? I mean the entire pantheon of Toril HATES him with a passion, He has no allies, he was once an allied with Jergal, but Kelemvor took over and Jergal switched Alliances to serve Kelemvor.


Exactly even the other evil gods hate him, and since his own book drove him mad he thinks hes the center of the universe, Also in the Faiths and Avatar book it says his favorite drink is the tears of broken hearted lovers.
And if People don't hate you for that, then become a scientoligest.

Azalin
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Azalin
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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 11:40 am


Another villan is actually Vecna, he did ALOT of bad things...... auch as

Vecna was born as a human, centuries ago as a member of the untouchable caste in the Flan city of Fleeth on Oerth. He was initially trained by his mother, Mazzel, in the art of magic, before she was executed by the government of Fleeth for practicing witchcraft. Vowing revenge, Vecna eventually assumed a mastery of the dark arts achieved by no mortal before or since. Some say this achievement was due to direct tutelage by Mok'slyk the Serpent, believed to be the personification of arcane magic itself.

Nearly one thousand years after his birth, Vecna, now a lich and ruler of a great and terrible empire (in the Sheldomar Valley, centered near the modern-day Rushmoors), laid siege to the city of Fleeth with an army of arcane spellcasters and undead. Legend has it that Vecna was nearly slain in this battle by clerics channeling the power of Pholtus, the god of light. The clerics unleashed a great burst of light, which hit Vecna primarily on his left side. Vecna was rescued and brought to safety by one of his wizard generals, a cambion named Acererak (who would one day himself become a mighty demilich).

Vecna eventually recovered. On the verge of conquering Fleeth, the officials of the city came before him to beg for mercy. They offered up the entire city and her wealth if only Vecna would spare the lives of her citizens. When Vecna was not satisfied, the officials offered their own lives. Vecna gave one of their number, Artau, and his family, over to his lieutenant, Kas, who spent the entire day torturing and murdering them before the other officials. Still unsatisfied, Vecna slaughtered all within the city, and had their heads stacked before the officials, with those of their family members prominent. Vecna then granted his mercy, granting the officials leave to depart, and promising them his protection for the rest of their lives.

At his empire's height, Vecna was betrayed and destroyed by his most trusted lieutenant, a human called Kas the Bloody-Handed, using a magical sword that Vecna himself had crafted for him, now known as the Sword of Kas. Only his left hand and his eye survived the battle, perhaps because of the previous events in Fleeth.

Vecna did not stay gone forever, and rose as a demigod of magic and secrets in the world of Greyhawk. In 581 CY, his cult helped set events in motion that would have granted him the power of a greater god, but the plan was ultimately foiled. After these events, Vecna ended up imprisoned in the demiplane of Ravenloft, but broke free again later, emerging with the power of a lesser god. He then broke free into the city of Sigil, where he came perilously close to rearranging all existence to his whims. (Vecna's multiverse shattering campaign in Sigil is used as an in-universe way to explain the differences between the 2nd and 3rd editions of Dungeons & Dragons.)

The three Dungeons & Dragons adventures that prominently feature Vecna are Vecna Lives! (Greyhawk), Vecna Reborn (Ravenloft), and Die Vecna Die! (Greyhawk/Ravenloft/Planescape).

He's also responsible for the Hand of Vecna, and the Eye of Vecna and even the fabled Head of Vecna

Several members of Group One came up with the idea of luring Group Two into a trap. You remember the Hand of Vecna and the Eye of Vecna that were artifacts in the old D&D world where if you cut off your hand (or your eye) and replaced it with the Hand of Vecna (or the Eye) you'd get new awesome powers? Well, Group One thought up The Head of Vecna.

Group One spread rumors all over the countryside (even paying Bards to spread the word about this artifact rumored to exist nearby). They even went so far as to get a real head and place it under some weak traps to help with the illusion. Unfortunately, they forgot to let ALL the members of their group in on the secret plan (I suspect it was because they didn't want the Druid to get caught and tell the enemy about this trap of theirs, or maybe because they didn't want him messing with things).

The Druid in group One heard about this new artifact and went off in search of it himself (I believe to help prove himself to the party members...) Well, after much trial and tribulation, he found it; deactivated (or set off) all the traps; and took his "prize" off into the woods for examination. He discovered that it did not radiate magic (a well known trait of artifacts) and smiled gleefully.

I wasn't really worried since he was alone and I knew that there was no way he could CUT HIS OWN HEAD OFF. Alas I was mistaken as the Druid promptly summoned some carnivorous apes and instructed them to use his own scimitar and cut his head off (and of course quickly replacing it with the Head of Vecna...)

Some time later, Group one decided to find the Druid and to check on the trap. They found the headless body (and the two heads) and realized that they had erred in their plan (besides laughing at the character who had played the Druid)...The Head of Vecna still had BOTH eyes! They corrected this mistake and reset their traps and the Head for it's real intended victims...

Group Two, by this time, had heard of the powerful artifact and decided that it bore investigating since, if true, they could use it to destroy Group One. After much trial and tribulation, they found the resting place of The Head of Vecna! The were particularly impressed with the cunning traps surrounding the site (one almost missed his save against the weakest poison known to man). They recovered the Head and made off to a safe area.

Group Two actually CAME TO BLOWS (several rounds of fighting) against each other argueing over WHO WOULD GET THEIR HEAD CUT OFF! Several greedy players had to be hurt and restrained before it was decided who would be the recipient of the great powers bestowed by the Head... The magician was selected and one of them promptly cut his head off. As the player was lifting The Head of Vecna to emplace it on it's new body, another argument broke out and they spent several minutes shouting and yelling. Then, finally, they put the Head onto the character.

Well, of course, the Head simply fell off the lifeless body. All members of Group Two began yelling and screaming at each other (and at me) and then, on their own, decided that they had let too much time pass between cutting off the head of a hopeful recipient and put the Head of Vecna onto the body.

SO THEY DID IT AGAIN!... [killing another PC]

In closing, it should be said that I never even cracked a smile as all this was going on. After the second PC was slaughtered, I had to give in (my side was hurting)...

And Group Two blamed ME for all of that...

So let that be a warning to you - don't let your head get cut off unless you really know what you're doing.

Also how can we forget Kas? Kas the Bloody handed?

In the World of Greyhawk campaign setting for the Dungeons & Dragons role-playing game, Kas the Bloody-Handed was the most trusted lieutenant of the despotic arch-lich Vecna, who wielded the Sword of Kas in his master's name.

Kas the Terrible would eventually betray his master, leading to both their downfalls. At some time point before his death, Kas became a vampire, and he and Vecna remain the bitterest of foes.

God bless Wikipedia!
PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 11:57 am


Azalin
And if People don't hate you for that, then become a scientoligest.

eek
That is the most profound statement ever acheived by mankind.

BloodOnWhitePetals
Crew


DragonLich
Vice Captain

PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 4:24 am


Orcus!
PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 5:26 am


Asmodeus is pretty bad, I would think you would have to be to be the ruler of the 9 hells.

Johnmichael


Azalin
Vice Captain

PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 8:41 am


Johnmichael
Asmodeus is pretty bad, I would think you would have to be to be the ruler of the 9 hells.
Theres a second edition book called "Guide to Hell", and it pretty much states that Asmodeus did make Baator, and Jarizan(The Couatul god) Made Mt.Celestia.
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