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Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 3:18 pm
Can someone explain to me what is so wrong with porn? It is human desire to have some form of pleasure, I see nothing wrong with that, so why does the bible try to suppress the urges of humans. It is the way God made us, is it not?
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Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 1:49 pm
Because when you're watching porn, you're lusting, which is bad.
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Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 3:19 pm
Crimson_Enigma Can someone explain to me what is so wrong with porn? It is human desire to have some form of pleasure, I see nothing wrong with that, so why does the bible try to suppress the urges of humans. It is the way God made us, is it not? Basically what he said. Pornography basically is the idea that you are using the body not for Gods intended purposes but because you want pleasure. Mind you....I understand the desire for porn, and struggle with it myself often, but its not good, nor do you feel great after its over. Sure their is the moments of pleasure but what about the afterward?
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Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 3:54 pm
Well, ever since my grandpa died, I haven't been watching it as much. I feel so ashamed, but before that I didn't care. Which concerns me. Why did I not care if God knew, but I care if my grandpa knows?
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Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 5:43 am
Porn is wrong cuz of the feelings it puts in your heart, lust and well, it just makes sex so animalistic and it ceases to be love. God intended sexual acts to be pure and holy but porn makes it well, nasty.
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Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 9:10 pm
Crimson_Enigma Well, ever since my grandpa died, I haven't been watching it as much. I feel so ashamed, but before that I didn't care. Which concerns me. Why did I not care if God knew, but I care if my grandpa knows? I've had that same question in mind, i always worried what if my family or friends knew something like that, but not if God knew. We don't care, cause we don't fear him like we should. I'm not the best christian around, so i don't keep a good relationship with God, that's why i don't really care. But now i have been
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Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 5:03 pm
Porn is also distructive to the people in it.
A lot of the time, people in porn are being abused. Think about it. People actually feel that this is the only way to make money/friends/popularity?
Instead of watching porn, why don't you pray for the people in it.
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Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 9:05 pm
My two bits~
There, of course, is always a reason if God tells us no.
In this case, I believe it has to do with the intricacy and fragility of the human mind and heart.
The physical and emotional pleasure that such things bring up in us is a good thing. It is made to be wonderful, though only shared with our spouse. When it is kept to that context we are fulfilled and replenished by it. It is everything God intended it to be.
When it is taken out of God's context, it is still pleasurable yes. But it is muted and degraded from what it could and should be.
Now, you may argue. Porn is not actualy having sex with those other people.
And you would be right. YOu havn't physically done any such thing. But mentally it's taken place. And those images will stay in your mind forever. And they will be added to with each picture or movie you view.
That's all well and good, but what's your point you ask. ^-^; I'm getting there, I hope.
The basic point is, that as the Bible tells us; if you think it, you've done it. Stated perhaps a little more blatantly then the bible. But that's the point it gives you.
Now to illustrate a little bit.
A husband and his wife are happily married, and have been for a number of years. He's never given concideration to cheating on his wife with another woman, he loves her too much. But he's not feeling fullfilled in his sex life with her, and rather then speaking about it with his wife, he quitly finds an alternative, 'unharmful' way of getting what he needs for the moment.
Porn can seem like an innocent way to releave the physical stress without having to make waves about it.
As he watches his porn, his mind is filled with beautiful women and lustful thoughts. Which at first perhaps he directs towards the image of his wife. But as time goes on, he becomes more desensatized to the morals that kept him hers alone, and his mind starts to drift to those beautiful women. He ends up craving those women rather then his wife.
And with each act of watching and entertaining thoughts of those other women, he unwittingly brings himself one step closer to actualy going out to find one of those beautiful women for real.
In the end, a once loving, adoring husband. Cheats on his wife and sevearly wounds the once beatiful relationship they had together. Even if that relationship survives, I can garuntee it will never be the same again. The trust that had been there was broken, and though forgivness may be given, the knowledge that it's happend once before will always lurk under the surface.
Don't get me wrong, the story can be told with the roles of husband and wife reversed as well. Porn can be just as tempting for a woman, though due to how most of us are wired, it would more likely be an internet chat room where we talk with 'safe' strangers to get the attention that we so crave. But as you can see it, the gradual degration it brings can be very, very real in the end.
God knows that our hearts can be so easily fooled. He knows that if we obess on something long enough, that will become our hearts desire. And that will be what we fly towards like moths to flames.
What if I'm single, does it still matter?
I believe, yes.
You are prepping your mind and heart for those things even before you've grown your relationship. You are opening yourself up for the same sort of life style that is portrayed in those images. You are working your way towards an unfulfilling experience that could be so, so much more.
If you do end up following that path through life, the consiquences can be terrible. Besides the unfilled part of your soul, there are so many deseases you can catch, and the very real possibility of abuse and death from it.
Yes, perhaps that all seems very extream and like it could never happen to you. But it could. How many people do you think though they would never contract HIV or AIDS and caught it regardless..
Wow.. my two cents turned into a sermon. ^_^;
I'll end my rant there. I hope what I said is clear, and that it will make a difference for someone.
~Nim
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Posted: Sat May 13, 2006 10:52 am
alicia8488 Porn is also distructive to the people in it. A lot of the time, people in porn are being abused. Think about it. People actually feel that this is the only way to make money/friends/popularity? Instead of watching porn, why don't you pray for the people in it. What? ^^;;; I think you have a misconception here, my dear. Porn starts choose to be porn stars. No one's getting abused any more than in any "normal" job. They do it because they like it, not because it's the only thing they can think of.
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Posted: Sat May 13, 2006 10:56 am
Crimson_Enigma Well, ever since my grandpa died, I haven't been watching it as much. I feel so ashamed, but before that I didn't care. Which concerns me. Why did I not care if God knew, but I care if my grandpa knows? Maybe because God is all-knowing. He's in every corner of your mind, he understands you completely. Grandpa's just a grouchy old man. <__< But seriously, your grandpa might understand better than you know. ^__~;;;; I mean, he's human too. He was a horny teenager at one point. And he does have a lot of life experience.
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Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 3:29 pm
Crimson_Enigma Can someone explain to me what is so wrong with porn? It is human desire to have some form of pleasure, I see nothing wrong with that, so why does the bible try to suppress the urges of humans. It is the way God made us, is it not? The thing is that porn is made for people who are slave of sex, anything that you put before Jesus, is an idol. Porn is bad, because you desire the people that you seen in magazine, internet or T.V. Its like your fornicating with them, because you desire in your heart having sex.
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Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 3:31 pm
Crimson_Enigma Well, ever since my grandpa died, I haven't been watching it as much. I feel so ashamed, but before that I didn't care. Which concerns me. Why did I not care if God knew, but I care if my grandpa knows? It must concern you if God knows, because he's the one able to judge you.
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Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 11:25 am
Guacamole-kun alicia8488 Porn is also distructive to the people in it. A lot of the time, people in porn are being abused. Think about it. People actually feel that this is the only way to make money/friends/popularity? Instead of watching porn, why don't you pray for the people in it. What? ^^;;; I think you have a misconception here, my dear. Porn starts choose to be porn stars. No one's getting abused any more than in any "normal" job. They do it because they like it, not because it's the only thing they can think of. This is interestin gin my mind, the question of the truly wicked. God talks about people who are completely wicked, and in Psalm David calls for their destruction. Basically are these people in porn either abused, or so wicked that they will sell themselves for sex and think that its ok. Well if its true they aren't going to change. Mind you soem of these porn stars may have been abused by an uncle, stranger, family member, and grew up having an abused mind, so they are only doing what they understood as a child to do, have people have sex with you. So their are the abused people who do it beacuse they grew up around it and don't know much better, and the truly wicked who do it because their isn't a chance for their salvaiton. Mind you my statement on wickedness is only my hypotheses, i'm not sure if I believe it yet.
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Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 12:39 am
Tentenaru Crimson_Enigma Can someone explain to me what is so wrong with porn? It is human desire to have some form of pleasure, I see nothing wrong with that, so why does the bible try to suppress the urges of humans. It is the way God made us, is it not? The thing is that porn is made for people who are slave of sex, anything that you put before Jesus, is an idol. Porn is bad, because you desire the people that you seen in magazine, internet or T.V. Its like your fornicating with them, because you desire in your heart having sex. Actually, I don't like sex very much, but I do enjoy good porn every once in a while. You don't have to be addicted to enjoy porn. And in fact, I have more desire for my favorite singer than for any porn star I've seen.
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Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 12:51 am
BDSaint13 Guacamole-kun alicia8488 Porn is also distructive to the people in it. A lot of the time, people in porn are being abused. Think about it. People actually feel that this is the only way to make money/friends/popularity? Instead of watching porn, why don't you pray for the people in it. What? ^^;;; I think you have a misconception here, my dear. Porn starts choose to be porn stars. No one's getting abused any more than in any "normal" job. They do it because they like it, not because it's the only thing they can think of. This is interestin gin my mind, the question of the truly wicked. God talks about people who are completely wicked, and in Psalm David calls for their destruction. Basically are these people in porn either abused, or so wicked that they will sell themselves for sex and think that its ok. Well if its true they aren't going to change. Mind you soem of these porn stars may have been abused by an uncle, stranger, family member, and grew up having an abused mind, so they are only doing what they understood as a child to do, have people have sex with you. So their are the abused people who do it beacuse they grew up around it and don't know much better, and the truly wicked who do it because their isn't a chance for their salvaiton. Mind you my statement on wickedness is only my hypotheses, i'm not sure if I believe it yet. Actually, from what I understand, it's usually a pretty healthy environment, and the people are pretty mature. I mean, you'd have to have your mind in the right place to do that sort of work and keep your emotions stable. Now, hookers and stuff... they're usually the ones who've had screwed up childhoods. :/
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