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 Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 10:01 am
I went to Amazon.com simply to order Kay's Phantom and lots of manga (I live in South America, where decent shoujo series are almost non-existant, and Leroux is the only PotO I can buy.) but after coming across so many PotO books upon typing "Phantom" in the book search, I have the need to buy at least a few of them... Still, I cannot waste my precious money with books I might dislike, so why not ask for recomendations? n.n The kind of phanphic* I read are Leroux-based ones ONLY. I treasure IC-ness, I like dark storytelling styles, I wouldn't mind modern-day retellings as long as nobody's in High School (Scorpion's Darkness Purged to Light, for example. That's one of my favorites. n.n), I like humor (this is the only case where characters can get a little OOC). Stuff I read in FF.net: most of The Scorpion's stuff, Bodies On The Shore, A Story Of Love, I Fought So Hard To Free You, The Pirates Of The Tonkin Bay, The Price Of Fame and some other humor phics whose names I can't remember. *All non-Leroux PotO books are published phanphics, after all. =) Quote: Current Shoplist: - Phantom by Susan Kay - The Trapdoor Maker by [insert the author's name here] Also, if there's any book you wanna warn me about (if it really sucks, and spending my money on it would be madness) please do so. I suppose that there should be a good amount of PotO books we should stay away from.
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Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 10:31 am
Okay, I warn you on at least two I have read. I'm sure many will warn you on others like Progeny or The Phantom of Paris.
Phantom of Manhatten is a no-no. The story's wonked, the Author is a nutcase, and I've met no one who could give a good review on it.
Also, the more recent You Are Not Alone: A Modern Story of Erik and Christine is the biggest no-no since PoM. There's so much controversy about the author plaguerizing several works of phanfiction from either ff.net or wherever. That and it is simply so wrong in the head you want to give it a straight jacket.
That's my 2 cents.
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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 11:32 am
I heard about PoM and You Are Not Alone sucking. I think it was you who posted a review of You Are Not Alone in the books sticky. It really, really scared me. Rom 666? Hot Erik? *shrugs*
Phantom of Paris really sounds like "I'm publishing a PotO book but I don't wanna name it PotO but I want it to scream PotO" or that sort of thing. xd
Thanks for the warnings. n.n I'm starting to get really scared of published phics right now. And that includes Kay, for the fact that her Erik was drugged/never used the same shirt twice/etc. gonk
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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 1:07 pm
Takiko-chan I heard about PoM and You Are Not Alone sucking. I think it was you who posted a review of You Are Not Alone in the books sticky. It really, really scared me. Rom 666? Hot Erik? *shrugs* Phantom of Paris really sounds like "I'm publishing a PotO book but I don't wanna name it PotO but I want it to scream PotO" or that sort of thing. xd Thanks for the warnings. n.n I'm starting to get really scared of published phics right now. And that includes Kay, for the fact that her Erik was drugged/never used the same shirt twice/etc. gonk Yeah, that was me. I wrote a review on PoM way back when too, but I forget which thread and if said thread still exists. I'm a book critic by nature. I am as well. When I first discovered the many phics out to buy, I squeed and ran all over the internet for them. I've read only a few and most of them have been worthy enough to line my cats' litterbox.
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Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 7:06 am
I dunno. I know that the Leroux novel and the Kay novel are awesome. But I am *definately* staying away from Phantom of Manhattan.
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Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 3:04 pm
Utakan Okay, I warn you on at least two I have read. I'm sure many will warn you on others like Progeny or The Phantom of Paris. Phantom of Manhatten is a no-no. The story's wonked, the Author is a nutcase, and I've met no one who could give a good review on it. Also, the more recent You Are Not Alone: A Modern Story of Erik and Christine is the biggest no-no since PoM. There's so much controversy about the author plaguerizing several works of phanfiction from either ff.net or wherever. That and it is simply so wrong in the head you want to give it a straight jacket. That's my 2 cents.
Yes, NEVER get Phantom of Manhatten. If anything, it is a screwed up version of a sequal to ALW's play. It mocks all the characters. Imagine Erik, dressing up as a clown walking in Coney Island. Not good at all, very wrongn in the head indeed.
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Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 5:26 pm
The Phantom of the Opera, Phantom, and The Angel of the Opera: Sherlock Holmes Meets the Phantom of the Opera are all really good and definately worth the read.
The Phantom of Manhattan was really lame. It had only one good part [spoiler alert] where Erik finds out he has a son named Pierre and sends him a music box to test his skills. The box plays one song (can't remember) but on the back of the disc Erik inscribed the song Masquerade so that only a curious genius like himself would take it apart and find the song. Being the offspring of Erik, Pierre found it. Big whoopty doo.
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Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 7:19 pm
crystal_raye The Phantom of the Opera, Phantom, and The Angel of the Opera: Sherlock Holmes Meets the Phantom of the Opera are all really good and definately worth the read. The Phantom of Manhattan was really lame. It had only one good part [spoiler alert] where Erik finds out he has a son named Pierre and sends him a music box to test his skills. The box plays one song (can't remember) but on the back of the disc Erik inscribed the song Masquerade so that only a curious genius like himself would take it apart and find the song. Being the offspring of Erik, Pierre found it. Big whoopty doo. It played Yankee Doodle. I thought it was stupid he had a son. And of all the cliche French names. *groan*
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Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 8:13 pm
Necroposting.
Pierre is the most ridiculous, cliched french name ever to grace a bad dime-store novel. Which is about what PoM is...
All things considered, the story feels like Forsythe had already written a story about a business mogul with a long-lost-son, and then went back when Webber asked him and switched it around to something vaguely Phantomy. No one is in character, the plot is just plain ridiculous, and the fact that Forsythe then has the nerve to go back and trash Leroux for literary flaws that he himself commits (As far as random narrator characters go, the Daroga was at least interesting. Who could say the same for that random reporter fellow in PoM? He's so forgettable I don't even remember his name.) or for plot holes that actually stem from Webber and the phans. (No electric lights in the opera in 1881? That's interesting, but it's Webber who concretely set the story in 1881. Leroux just sets it somewhere in the last quarter of the 19th century.)
Ahem. But now that I've ranted about Forsythe...
The Trap-Door Maker and it's sequel are exceptional, and made by a phan to boot. The art doesn't amaze me, but it's good enough and the plot is wonderful thus far. Definitely worth the buy.
Maskerade by Terry Pratchett is actually a parody (mostly of overly romantic POTO cliches), but it's the most hilarious Phantom-related thing you'll ever read.)
The Canary Trainer by Nicholas Meyer I've found vastly superior to Angel of the Opera. It's not a Phantom book so much as it's a Sherlock Holmes book inspired by Phantom, but it's far better as a stand-alone novel than Angel. There are a lot of random changes and deviations from the plot of Leroux (Erik only abducts Christine one time, Buquet was also courting her, no daroga, etc), but the author does them well and with the tact and humility Forsythe lacked, stating that he made the changes he did to make the story more of it's own entity and less of just Phantom with Sherlock Holmes thrown in. So it's not Leroux, but it has the overall feel of Leroux.
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 2:33 am
PhantomoftheFox Maskerade by Terry Pratchett is actually a parody (mostly of overly romantic POTO cliches), but it's the most hilarious Phantom-related thing you'll ever read.) This has got to be one of the greatest POTO inspired books ever! A warning though, you may not be able to watch the 2004 film afterwards without cracking up. I'm the only person in my family who can watch with a straight face. It's still a wonderful book though.
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Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 1:31 pm
I bought Progeny. Slapped my forehead after I read the prolouge. Christine like misses Erik and her son is like Erik's or something. I am going to read it anyways, but just warning... XD
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