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 Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 12:40 pm
Did you know that there is religious text such as two books of adam and eve and religous text talking of the infancy of Christ? I have the books
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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 5:38 pm
Guitarhero356 Did you know that there is religious text such as two books of adam and eve and religous text talking of the infancy of Christ? I have the books iv read that sentence about five times and still do not kno what it says. confused
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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 6:15 pm
He has 2 books about adam and eve and some on Christ as a child.
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Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 8:26 pm
HolyP8ntr He has 2 books about adam and eve and some on Christ as a child. oh. im sorry for my ignorance buy why is that important? is ther not many books on those subjects?
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Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 6:08 am
Correct me if I'm wrong, but, guitarhero, is a gnostic. (yes?)
Gnostics believe that there are many writings, some inspired, some not, that were not including in the Bible we have today that should have been. They believe the writings have important teachings concerning Christ and God.
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Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 1:30 pm
HolyP8ntr Correct me if I'm wrong, but, guitarhero, is a gnostic. (yes?) Gnostics believe that there are many writings, some inspired, some not, that were not including in the Bible we have today that should have been. They believe the writings have important teachings concerning Christ and God. Nope, let me explain, I believe the Q'uran, but i'm not islamic, I believe the apocryphal texts, but i'm not gnostic, I believe the BOM and the other two LDS books, but i'm not LDS, I believe the bible, but i'm not, well, okay, I guess I can be called a Christian. I'm not going to deny Christ. I'm non denominational, but i'm not a unitarian. I just look for constant turth.
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Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 5:50 pm
1. You claim to be an angelic who knows more than the average man
2. You should know what truth is then
3. How do you claim to find truth in so many opposing religious ideas?
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Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 4:24 pm
HolyP8ntr 1. You claim to be an angelic who knows more than the average man 2. You should know what truth is then 3. How do you claim to find truth in so many opposing religious ideas? Because there are several different religions that all point to God. God has several different messengers. The Q'uran says a lot of the same things as the bible. The apocryphal texts shed light on a lot of things as well. What the LDS Church preaches is part of the restored gospel. The bible is basically a bunch of compilations. I do know what truth is. I just have to do a little investigating first sometimes. Think about this, do you think God wnats his children fighting? The different sects are there so that people can meet groups of people with roughly the same beliefs. As for opposing religious ideas. I don't see how it is opposing since the religions that I study actually point to God. Plus, God uses a plan on you that works best for you. Not for everyone else, for you. what works best on one person may not work for another. Hence, so many different true religions/sects. There is one religion though I don't belive nor ever will(other than the obvious), The jewish religion. I've seen Jesus. As a summary, I do know more than most. But I am not about to claim to know everything. If you bring up a good point, I will listen and hopefully learn. The only other thing I can say is that you are given the information that you can handle. There are some things I can't go around saying because the majority of people just aren't ready to hear it yet.
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Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 4:35 pm
If a religion does not believe Christ is God or the only means to heaven, they will not have salvation and will not be in heaven.
Here are some Bible verses for support:
John 6:29 ESV
"Jesus answered them, 'This is the work of God, that you believe in him whom he has sent.'"
Jesus to the crowd.
John 8:21, 23-24 ESV
"So he said to them again, 'I am going away, and you will seek me, and you will die in your sin. Where I am going, you cannot come.'...He said to them, 'You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world. I told you that you would die in your sins, for unless you believe that I am he you will die in your sins.'"
This was said of Christ to the Jews of his day. No Christ means no heaven.
John 8:42 ESV
"Jesus said to them, "If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and I am here. I came not of my own accord, but he sent me."
Jesus to the Pharisees.
Matthew 28:19-20 ESV
"'Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.'"
Observe ALL Christ taught. This included that without accepting him, you cannot get to heaven.
If nonChristian religions truly followed the God that we do, they would accept Christ. Some may think they follow the same God as us, but they have been deceived.
And why are they deceived?
2 Corinthians 4:4 ESV
"In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God."
Romans 8:7-8 ESV
"For the mind that is set on the flesh is hostile to God, for it does not submit to God's law; indeed, it cannot. Those who are in the flesh cannot please God."
John 8:43-47 ESV
"Why do you not understand what I say? It is because you cannot bear to hear my word. You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and has nothing to do with the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar and the father of lies. But because I tell the truth, you do not believe me. Which one of you convicts me of sin? If I tell the truth, why do you not believe me? Whoever is of God hears the words of God. The reason why you do not hear them is that you are not of God."
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Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 12:02 pm
HolyP8ntr If a religion does not believe Christ is God or the only means to heaven, they will not have salvation and will not be in heaven. Here are some Bible verses for support: John 6:29 ESV "Jesus answered them, 'This is the work of God, that you believe in him whom he has sent.'" Jesus to the crowd. John 8:21, 23-24 ESV "So he said to them again, 'I am going away, and you will seek me, and you will die in your sin. Where I am going, you cannot come.'...He said to them, 'You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world. I told you that you would die in your sins, for unless you believe that I am he you will die in your sins.'" This was said of Christ to the Jews of his day. No Christ means no heaven. John 8:42 ESV "Jesus said to them, "If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and I am here. I came not of my own accord, but he sent me." Jesus to the Pharisees. Matthew 28:19-20 ESV "'Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.'" Observe ALL Christ taught. This included that without accepting him, you cannot get to heaven. If nonChristian religions truly followed the God that we do, they would accept Christ. Some may think they follow the same God as us, but they have been deceived. And why are they deceived? 2 Corinthians 4:4 ESV "In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God." Romans 8:7-8 ESV "For the mind that is set on the flesh is hostile to God, for it does not submit to God's law; indeed, it cannot. Those who are in the flesh cannot please God." John 8:43-47 ESV "Why do you not understand what I say? It is because you cannot bear to hear my word. You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and has nothing to do with the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar and the father of lies. But because I tell the truth, you do not believe me. Which one of you convicts me of sin? If I tell the truth, why do you not believe me? Whoever is of God hears the words of God. The reason why you do not hear them is that you are not of God."Well, that's just common knowledge. You need the son to get to the father. But, on another note, just because you honour wiht your lips doesn't mean you do with your heart. So you also have to keep an eye on that as well.
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Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 12:39 pm
That's sort of what I'm saying. If a religion does not accept Christ's deity or him as the only way of salvation, they will not get to heaven. That's what the verses say. No Christ = no heaven, no matter how good or nice you are.
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Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 1:56 pm
HolyP8ntr That's sort of what I'm saying. If a religion does not accept Christ's deity or him as the only way of salvation, they will not get to heaven. That's what the verses say. No Christ = no heaven, no matter how good or nice you are. That I do agree with you on. You must accept Christ.
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Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 3:42 pm
But read the verses again. If someone claims to follow God but does not accept Jesus, they're being deceived. That means, they aren't following the true God. The only other option then is they are following the desires of satan, though they do not know it (hence the deceiving). How can someone who is not following God have spiritual truth when they're focus is on the desires of the prince of lies?
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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 8:38 am
HolyP8ntr But read the verses again. If someone claims to follow God but does not accept Jesus, they're being deceived. That means, they aren't following the true God. The only other option then is they are following the desires of satan, though they do not know it (hence the deceiving). How can someone who is not following God have spiritual truth when they're focus is on the desires of the prince of lies? Actually, I think I just read that eralier today. You do not get the son without the father and vice versa.
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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 8:39 am
Guitarhero356 HolyP8ntr But read the verses again. If someone claims to follow God but does not accept Jesus, they're being deceived. That means, they aren't following the true God. The only other option then is they are following the desires of satan, though they do not know it (hence the deceiving). How can someone who is not following God have spiritual truth when they're focus is on the desires of the prince of lies? Actually, I think I just read that eralier today. You do not get the son without the father and vice versa. I did! I read that in my own bble before I got here!
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