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Robin the Aussie

PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 2:05 am


Ok well this title is simple enough discuss the Gundams and Mobile Suits.
Their desgins, their technical specifications, arnaments, stats, creators, performances or battles you noted them doing well.

For me I have a few favs.
Wing Gundam: The successor in design to the Wing Zero Gundam, this little flier was powerful and unnique, it had firepower, it was transformable and to me was a fav, it also survived a fair bit in to the series unlike the origional Deathscythe and Shenlong Gundams wich took a beating then got remade, Wing Gundam lasted until the end of the series practically, Libra's Beam Cannon tore it up pretty bad.

Wing Gundam Zero:
This suits was interesting considering it was the first Gundam ever designed in AC universe, quite powerful and unnique another transformable type Gundam, had incredible firepower and the Zero system made it more appealing but dangerous at the same time.
I like how you can clearly see how Wing Gundam's design and colours came from Wing Zero too.
I HATED the Wing Zero custom design btw so don't ask about it, um Angel Wings compared to a Neo Bird/Jet mode?, um the jet mode is better more advantageous in battle.

Epyon: It's name means "next" in Greek, it's powerful, transformable, taller then the other Gundams has a zero system of it's own inside it.
Has the strongest Beam Saber ever and is the only Gundam with a Heat Rod(wich I like)
The only thing I dislike was the colour(maroone?, um black might have suited it better)

Deathscythe Hell: A personnal fav of mine, better then the origional Deathscythe and I like the cloak compared to the bat wings of the Custom version.
The twin beam saber is good, the Buster Shield's speed is much better, it's good close range fighter, the cloak also deflects or protects against beam cannon fire at times, I mean at 80% complete this Gundam was able to stand up to Wing Zero(piloted by Trent)
So that has to say something about it.

Sandrock:
The name says it all the colours are that of the ground, the shield even has a snake/cobra like look to it, the weapons are good for close range or long range open desert areas, the high ammount of armor helps and the Sandrock has those missles or machine guns too.
A good example I remember it from was "Sanc Kingdom's collapse"

I'll do mobile suits in my next post.
PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 3:43 am


Well, here goes... ::cracks knuckles::

Favorites

Wing Zero Custom: Yeah, I know it's got big angel wings. I don't care. Frankly, I much more enjoy Katoki's designs than Okawara's simply because they aren't just another UC. The fanciful elements, while being a symbolic reflection of their pilots, helps differentiate them from the standard "old school" designs Okawara has been making for over thirty years. Besides, the wings serve several important purposes, including maneuvering and shields - basically making them more stylish versions of the GP01-Fb's thruster pods.

Sandrock Custom: The cape, the giant shotels, and just the style make me smile. I do wish they had retained the uzi and shoulder missiles from the TV version, but it's actually more imposing (and hilarious) throwing its shotels like ginormous boomerangs.

Epyon: It's just plain awesome, plus the evil atmosphere it evokes makes it perfectly suited to being Wing Zero's rival.

Aesculapius: I don't quite know why, but it's my favorite G-Unit. Maybe because it's a basic, efficient close combat design with a nice little retro touch, or the fact that the claw gimmic is cool.

Wing Seraphim: If you ignore the magical way the main wings pop out of the hips, it's a very nice trimmed-down version of Wing Zero Custom. And that's including the ZERO System that apparently has no flaws...

Leo: The poor little guy gets no respect. It's actually superior to machines that get all the love, like the Zaku II, except for the fact that it's handled much more realistically. Leos aren't fast, agile machines that break the laws of physics; they're more like Metal Gears, a much more reasonable version of mecha. In fact, the reason people accuse the Gundams of seeming like Super Robots is probably because they move like traditional UC mobile suits which, compared to the Leo, may seem Super Robot-ish. Still, it's a nice, utilitarian machine with Roman styling and a lot of variation. The Leo-S is a personal favorite.

Taurus: If I ended up in the AC universe, I'd probably want to pilot one of these. The Taurus is slick, sleek, and just looks mean. It can carry a few fun weapons, plus I don't think it would take too much work to jack weapons from a Leo or similar MS and use those instead. OZ's black colors are pretty cool, but I also love the Kingdom's white version; White Fang is, as far as I'm concerned, completely and totally color-blind.

Mercurius: I'm a melee wonk (Gyan forever!), so I guess I like Mercurius over Vayeate. It's basic, but what it has works, and as both Heero and Luna showed, the planet defensors aren't only good as shields. The Shuivan version gets a little boost for better weapons, but I do prefer the original's red coloration to Shuivan's white.

Scorpio: It's big and mean and more than a match for the Gundams. The only strikes against it are having a complete idiot for a pilot, and its confounding mobile armor mode, the product of having two different people handle the design of each form. But that still doesn't make it a bad design.

Tallgeese III: Tallgeese and TG2 were cool. This one is just plain sick. It brings the good old Tallgeese up to the standards of Wing Zero, making it a more honorable rival than the "evil" Epyon.

Preventer Void
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Aona

PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 5:04 pm


To expound on what has already been said:

Deathscythe, and later Deatscythe Hell, has the honor of being my first favorite. The intimidation factor, the extreme melee superiority, and the coolness of a scythe... quite the mobile suit. More recently, three mobile suits stand out in my mind:

First of all, Sandrock. A no-nonsense powerhouse design, posessing the strongest armor in the series, and one of, it not the, most durable Gundams in franchise history. Right before the great escape to space it took an unbelievable amount of firepower to even damage before self-detonating. Anything that can take a hit like that deserves respect. Weaponry wise, the Sandrock has a perfect mid-close range weapon balance, perfect for limited visibility desert combat. Shotels are one of my favorite real-world weapons, and Sandrock gets kudos for having a non-beam melee weapon. The cross crusher attack, while underused and probably impractical, is still awesome. Then it has the uzi, allowing it to hold off opponents at mid-range with its high rate of fire. The missiles add a nice little touch to the rest of the arsenal, giving it a couple high-powered shots at long range.

Secondly, Tallgeese III. Aesthetically, my favorite MS from the series. A massive beast of a mobile suit, with a primarily white color scheme, the crown-like head crest, the design in general gives a sense of 'power', with a solid, heavy-looking design that makes it as intimidating as any MS I've ever seen. The beam sabers, heat rod, and surprising speed of the Tallgeese III make it a superb melee combatant despite its size, and the mega cannon allows it blow up the big stuff with ease. My only qualm is that, for a mobile suit of such size, it lacks and easy to use ranged attack weapon for mobile suits. Vulcans are pretty much useless in AC (one of the things I like about UC, oddly enough), leaving it with either melee combat or a large, unwieldy super-weapon, with nothing in-between. Still, with the skill and piloting style of Milliardo Peacecraft, it is still an extremely effective weapon, and just about the coolest looking thing ever.

Next, I move on to Altron. Say what you will about the pilot, but Altron itself is an exercise in variety and balance above any other in Wing. Its armament is: a twin beam trident, one of the better melee weapons in the series, and very effective with a pilot like Wufei; the ever-present and pointless vulcans; the flamethrowers, which supplement its close-range arsenal nicely; the dragon fangs, which give it a unique ability for grappling, and allow for much greater effectiveness with the flamethrowers; and the beam cannons, powerful, fast, and posessing a long attack rang. Wufei neglects the beam cannons a little, more personal preference than lack of effectiveness, as he excels in melee combat. A pilot specializing in long-range combat could rip enemies apart with it as effectively as Wufei mauls his foes in close range. Its quick and powerful, its biggest weakness being the relatively light armor, which speed and piloting skill make up for.

One thing I want to know: what are the mechanics behind the twin buster rifle? It posesses superior firepower for its size when compared to any Gundam weapon I've seen, the size of a large beam rifle but posessing firepower far superior to most battleships. Its puzzled me for a while, and I'd like to know how it works.

Also, getting away from Wing to mention SEED for a moment, anyone else like the Providence? I love the DRAGOON system, and I honestly believe that Kira only won his duel with Rau because he's the main character. Come on... I don't care who you are, 44 separate beams targeting you from different locations... even with the accuracy lowered by the amount of concentration needed, I don't see it happening.
PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 8:25 pm


I've been told that each of the component rifles of the TBR has its own reactor, which is why it can afford to be so powerful and has apparently no ammunition limits.

Preventer Void
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Robin the Aussie

PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 1:40 am


To argue a few points.
With Tallgeese3 I think they should've added Dobbergun as an optional carrying arnament so it has a long range weapon, the orgional and TallgeeseII models showed how effective a weapon the Dobbergun can be, it can reduce VirgoII mobile dolls to scrap with one shot or two.

On Deathscythe Hell yes I should've mentioned it looks more like the Grim Reaper type Gundam, the bat wings give it a Batman look to it.
Either way it's a Gundam that hands out death and judgement in the god of death's eyes.
The Deathscythe Hell also has the highest ammount of speed of ALL the Gundams despite the show, showing otherwise, in tech specs Deathscythe Hell has 170 speed, Epyon has 160 the same as Zero.

As for the Wing Zero's Twin Buster Rifle I'm not sure why it's so powerful, then again Wing Gundam's Buster Rifle was strong enough to tear through Mobile Dolls and their shields or numerous Mobile Suits in one go.
I think the power has something to do with the design the Wing Zero was designed to be their ultimate weapon Gundam.
BUT perhaps when Doctor J made Wing Gundam he reduced the power level by half in Wing Gundam's Rifle, so as to avoid such an accident occuring.(eg if it hit a colony at full power we know what would've happened)
Still it is cool some of the Gundams have a huge ammount of firepower like that.
It did destroy a section of Libra although it was weakened structurally.
Earlier Heero destroyed a few mobile dolls that way, don't know how much damage that blast did to Libra.


ALSO Epyon's Beam Sword is the equivalent of Zero's rifle I think, since it had the power to critically damage Barge namely cutting one huge line of a hole down the middle of it wich caused it to collapse in on itself and the reactor going up wich destroyed it.
PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 11:20 am


Mobile Suits now for me.

TallgeeseII: I liked the look of it more, I got it confused for a Gundam when it showed up in the last few episodes.
It had some power as origional but a good paint job, a little crest on head and a new face plate and eyes.
Arnaments being the same this is probably my fav version of Tallgeese to me.
It was a good suit too for Treize ashame he and Wufei fought with Treize dying in the end.

Taurus: A good transformable suit with decent arnament, only problem is very vunerable and light armor on them.

Pisces: Good for underwater, WAY better then the Cancer MS.

Mercurius: Same reasons Prevented Void gave practically.

Leos: Might make an exception ONLY if it came with the shield(shield = beam sabers)

That's pretty much everything now for me.

Robin the Aussie


Aona

PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 8:38 pm


Mass produced mobile suits. The Leo is such a scrub among them! Oddly enough, I've always liked the Ares mobile suits. I kinda like the look, no matter how plain it is... but if I was a pilot, I would probably want a Taurus. Serpents are too big and heavy, and Taurus is a versatile machine. I'd put them on about the same level as Gelgoogs and maybe some later model GINNs, except with the extra usefulness of the transformation.
PostPosted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 12:39 am


Aona
Mass produced mobile suits. The Leo is such a scrub among them! Oddly enough, I've always liked the Ares mobile suits. I kinda like the look, no matter how plain it is... but if I was a pilot, I would probably want a Taurus. Serpents are too big and heavy, and Taurus is a versatile machine. I'd put them on about the same level as Gelgoogs and maybe some later model GINNs, except with the extra usefulness of the transformation.
Hm damn I forgot about the Serpents those Suits are good.
and it's spelt Aeries.

Robin the Aussie


Shishio Guy

PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 2:36 pm


Favorite Suits
*****
Wing Gundam: The design appeals to me, pretty much. Bird mode for long-distance runs when needed, Buster Rifle to get rid of those annoying assholes, and the colors are easy on the eyes.

Heavyarms Series: Guns, guns, guns. Missiles to weed out the enemy, more than enough guns to tear them apart.

Shenlong Series: I love the whole glaive deal. Design appeals to me very much. Shooting Star Shenlong is awesome.

Leo: Very customizable MP suit with a wide variety of weapons to get the job done. A shame they're crap in the hands of anyone short of a named pilot most of the time.

Tallgeese Series: Awesome line of suits in general with high speed and strong weapons. Awesome design as well.

G-Units: Very adaptable machines. A shame we never saw these in use on Earth.

Serpents: Nice machine. Decent mobility and a nice set of usable weapons.
PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 12:50 pm


My turn.

Deathscythe series.
Simple words cannot describe the extreme coolness of this awesomse Gundam. Love the scythe. heart

Heavyarms series.
I love big weapons, and this guy has no end to his. The second coolest Gundam in Gundam Wing after Deathscythe.

Sandrock Custom.
The heavy hitter in the group, waaaay cooler than the first one, sports two huge heatable blades and an awesome armor coat thingy. My third favorite among the Gundams.

Tallgeese III.
I have a hard time to decide if it's this one or Deathscythe who is my absolute favorite MS in the whole Gundam Wing series. Colored white and blue, armed with a HUGE Mega cannon rivaling the awesome power of Wing Zero's Buster cannon, and a cool heat rod taken from Epyon gundam, this MS is truly a force to be reconed with. You just gotta love it. 3nodding

ZX-Omega


Unmei_no_LaLuna
Crew
PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 10:59 am


Since I've always been a bit fan of the rift between light and dark, angels and devils my two favorite Gundams in Wing by natural selection where All of Wing's incarnations and Deathscythes incarnations. It seemed odd that it would be the Angel and the Grim Reaper fighting side by side. You would think that they would be enemies based on duty ...... yet again they seem to have simular missions..... ::rubs chin::
PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2006 1:41 am


True yet Epyon seems to represent something more then death I think evil(pretty much)
It's a terrifying Gundam for other pilots to face or let alone for Heero to pilot it first time he used it scared the hell out of him and it always possessed or influenced him so much more strongly then Zero.
Zechs I think somehow managed to fend it off but there were times Epyon took over him too eg when he destroyed Barge.
"You're no longer needed here, WE HAVE NO USE FOR YOU IN OUTER SPACE!!"

That doesn't sound like a line Zechs or Milliardo would say on average.

Robin the Aussie


Gundamgirl861

PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2006 7:11 am


well, I like them all. I wonder waht you guys have to say about heavyarms and its counterparts? cause in flash backs in endless waltz the Kai was green but in the series it was red.
PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2006 1:00 pm


Gundamgirl861
well, I like them all. I wonder waht you guys have to say about heavyarms and its counterparts? cause in flash backs in endless waltz the Kai was green but in the series it was red.
Actually it was a dark blue and I liked the orange/red colour scheme it suited Trowa and Heavyarms more.

Robin the Aussie


Gundamgirl861

PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2006 6:17 am


Robin the Aussie
Gundamgirl861
well, I like them all. I wonder waht you guys have to say about heavyarms and its counterparts? cause in flash backs in endless waltz the Kai was green but in the series it was red.
Actually it was a dark blue and I liked the orange/red colour scheme it suited Trowa and Heavyarms more.
ya the orange and red suited him better than the Kai did.
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