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Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 10:24 pm
So, I have this friend, I don't wanna say his name. Let's call him Assface.
So, on Wed. or Tuesday of this week, in class we were doing an activity where we all stood in a line and we took a step forward or back depending on our answers to questions. This was to stereotype a lot of us and some other psychological or some stuff. So, I'm standing on one side with two of my best friends, and on the other side is one of my other best friends, for 3 years now they have been. So, at one point the question was "If you could pass as a man." I take a step forward, and I look on the other side of the room at my friend, and I can hear them talking to someone else. "You know, when Isac had long hair, he couldn't..." I couldn't hear the rest, but it was laughter. If this came from anyone else, I wouldn't care. I wouldn't really care what much other people thought of me, but the fact that one of my best friends was talking about my appearance behind my back, when they know I'm sensitive about that stuff, really really hurt me. I ignored him for the rest of the day, and he knew I was mad at him from many hints and glares. Even after he was talking, he saw me looking straight at him and then looked down when he realized I was listning to him.
So, Assface has had some troubles at home. I'm not going to mention any of them, just that he has had some troubles. We all do from time to time, but they were about his grades. Assface even came over to my house, and I knew he was going to go home and have nothing to do for the rest of the day and the weekend. I offered him basically anything in my room to play with while he was gone, I gave him my PSP to play with until he could pull off something to do. Spring Break was this week, so I knew he was gonna be bored alone in his room.
I figured maybe it was the fact that Assface was having troubles at home. Maybe the comment was becuase of this? But there was a strong possibility it wasn't. In earlier years, he had made of me being an Athiest, and I had to litterally BEG him to stop after several months of him and some of his friends who I know didn't like me made fun of me. He knew this was probably going to hurt me, and he still said it behind my back. I was silent the entire ride home, I give him rides home. I pressured him to go to this school because it would be much better for him than any of the public schools in the area. So yeah, I gave him a ride home 3/5 days a week. He knew I was mad at him, but I guess he thought HE was the victim here. You see, in a club we're in on a random website, you probably don't know, named WSC, I made a joke about him crying in a corner in something he paid money for. He knew I was joking, but he asked for his money back. I thought it was dumb, but I gave him his money back.
A few days later, during class, we were doing a group project, and you had to have a member from numbers 1-5, I was in a group that was missing a three, and we were exchanging notes in the mean time. Assface was a number 3. He started copying the notes we were exchanigng out loud and asked for a repeat of some. I said "Apparently Assface is in our group now." This was 1 or 2 days later. He knew I was still mad at him, I was still ignoring him. And he said "Well NOLAN is pissy." and I was mad, so I let out "Well at least I'm not saying things about you behind your back." he replied "Oh yeah, hmm, "Crying in the corner."? "That's not behind your back, that's out in the open." "Whatever." And he walked away.
After the first day and once during the week, I cried over this. He was one of my best friends, and he knew that I was really sensitive about this stuff. But he did it anyway. I didn't konw if it was because of his problems at home or what, but it really hurt me. I know I was being a really big drama llama, but I couldn't stop crying at one point.
Well, Friday, I'm at a get together I won't name to protect this person. Let's call Dragons and Dungeons. There were 4 of us here, at a table hosted by a DM and a close friend of mine who I asked to hold it for us. And of course, Assface and Dipshit take the last 2 spots, which I was holding one for Tuah. Tuah came 5 minutes later and couldn't play. D:
I was really looking forward to this adventure. But I felt like I couldn't even be happy with Assface at the table. I was acting really emo and depressed the entire time. I really wanted to play tonight, but I couldn't with him there.
All I want from his is an apology. If he gave me simply that, I would be fine. But he knows I'm mad at him, and he doesn't care. That really makes me question if I want to be friends with him any longer, even if he does apologize. I think he suspects it to just blow over.
Wrong. I'm not gonna forget this, I know it's kinda small, but it really aggravates me and makes me sad at the same time. I cried again Friday night coming back from the game. T__T
I don't want to ask for an apology. I dont' want to force it out of him. I want him to say it himself and have a legitimate reason for saying what he meant.
Discuss: Do I have the right to be mad at him? Should I keep being mad at him? Similar Problems you've had?
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Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 11:07 pm
Well, from the way I read it, he's your best friend and he went ahead and said something he knew would hurt you. You put out a lot for him and have been a good friend to him. You ignored him and made him understand that you were upset at him and how he had hurt you when he said that. He still wasn't trying to understand and wanted to turn it around and make it seem as if he was the one who needed an apology and not you.
I've had something similar to that and while my friend and I made up, we seperated from each other for a while, to recollect our thoughts and try to just understand why we were mad and figure out what we wanted to say to each other in a calm manner.
I think you have the right to be mad at him, but you can't let it get to you for so long. You've had this friendship for a long time now, and I don't think you truly want to waste it that fast over something like this. Try taking a break from him and avoiding conflict, and then just talk it out with him. If he still refuses, then let it go. It's not worth your pain to try and deal with someone who wont listen or try to be a good friend.
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Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 11:31 pm
Kaibasangel13 Well, from the way I read it, he's your best friend and he went ahead and said something he knew would hurt you. You put out a lot for him and have been a good friend to him. You ignored him and made him understand that you were upset at him and how he had hurt you when he said that. He still wasn't trying to understand and wanted to turn it around and make it seem as if he was the one who needed an apology and not you. I've had something similar to that and while my friend and I made up, we seperated from each other for a while, to recollect our thoughts and try to just understand why we were mad and figure out what we wanted to say to each other in a calm manner. I think you have the right to be mad at him, but you can't let it get to you for so long. You've had this friendship for a long time now, and I don't think you truly want to waste it that fast over something like this. Try taking a break from him and avoiding conflict, and then just talk it out with him. If he still refuses, then let it go. It's not worth your pain to try and deal with someone who wont listen or try to be a good friend. I realized early on that I didn't want this to happen. But I remember clearly in 8th grade he did some things very similar to this, and I put up with it, and once I didn't put up with it, and I simply shoved him aside. I got thrown onto the ground with my head slamming into a locker for it. I remember all those things now I try to think if becoming friends with him ever was a good idea, because he seems to be ignoring a lot of people's feelings. Not just mine.
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Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 11:50 pm
Isaccard I realized early on that I didn't want this to happen. But I remember clearly in 8th grade he did some things very similar to this, and I put up with it, and once I didn't put up with it, and I simply shoved him aside. I got thrown onto the ground with my head slamming into a locker for it. I remember all those things now I try to think if becoming friends with him ever was a good idea, because he seems to be ignoring a lot of people's feelings. Not just mine. I think maybe it might be best to just seperate as much as possible for now and not think about him and see how things end up being on a regular basis then. That might be the easiest thing to do. He seems like he's just trying to be uncaring towards people for either the attention and popularity points, or to just see how far he can push everyone, and the only way he'll snap out of it is if he realizes how much he'll lose because of it.
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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 12:10 am
Kaibasangel13 Isaccard I realized early on that I didn't want this to happen. But I remember clearly in 8th grade he did some things very similar to this, and I put up with it, and once I didn't put up with it, and I simply shoved him aside. I got thrown onto the ground with my head slamming into a locker for it. I remember all those things now I try to think if becoming friends with him ever was a good idea, because he seems to be ignoring a lot of people's feelings. Not just mine. I think maybe it might be best to just seperate as much as possible for now and not think about him and see how things end up being on a regular basis then. That might be the easiest thing to do. He seems like he's just trying to be uncaring towards people for either the attention and popularity points, or to just see how far he can push everyone, and the only way he'll snap out of it is if he realizes how much he'll lose because of it. I tried to seperate from him, but I think that because he's not mad at me, I'm not mad at him. So he talks to me, even though he knows I'm trying to ignore him and stay away.
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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 12:38 am
Isaccard Kaibasangel13 Isaccard I realized early on that I didn't want this to happen. But I remember clearly in 8th grade he did some things very similar to this, and I put up with it, and once I didn't put up with it, and I simply shoved him aside. I got thrown onto the ground with my head slamming into a locker for it. I remember all those things now I try to think if becoming friends with him ever was a good idea, because he seems to be ignoring a lot of people's feelings. Not just mine. I think maybe it might be best to just seperate as much as possible for now and not think about him and see how things end up being on a regular basis then. That might be the easiest thing to do. He seems like he's just trying to be uncaring towards people for either the attention and popularity points, or to just see how far he can push everyone, and the only way he'll snap out of it is if he realizes how much he'll lose because of it. I tried to seperate from him, but I think that because he's not mad at me, I'm not mad at him. So he talks to me, even though he knows I'm trying to ignore him and stay away. Hmm... Well, if the ignoring isn't working, try finding a different route. Like, whatever he says about anything, just give him one answer over and over. I've tried that with people and it's gotten them so pissed or frustrated, they forget what they were doing to annoy me in the first place.
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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 7:35 am
He's just being insensative. Ignoring him doesn't seem to be working, because he's /so/ insensative, that he's blinded to the fact that he's hurting you. You could try to just stand up and say something to him, knock some sense into the foo'.
It may seem like forcing an apology out of him, but atleast he then knows exactly /why/ you want an apology. And besides, if he /just/ says "sorry", you can ask him /why/ he's apologizing, to make sure he knows what he did wrong.
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 10:26 am
Hypocrite. I tried being nice to you and you shove it in ym ******** face. I'm sorry about talking behind your back, but dude this is just bullshit. And since this whole guild seems to hate me now I'm quiting.
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 2:03 pm
Panic State Hypocrite. I tried being nice to you and you shove it in ym ******** face. I'm sorry about talking behind your back, but dude this is just bullshit. And since this whole guild seems to hate me now I'm quiting. Hypocrite? I'm not talking behind your back. I WANTED you to see this. You haven't TRIED to do s**t.
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 7:28 pm
Update: Well, Assface read this and thought it was behind his back. I wanted him to read this so maybe he would realize how I felt and try to talk to me. I knew if I tried he would yell at me for an apology. But now I found out while I was gone from school, he was apparently trying to get people to "pick sides" between me and him. And I'm afraid. I'm afraid to lose all my friends because he might make it look like I'm the bad guy without giving me a chance.
I don't know what to do now...
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Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 5:56 am
Isaccard Update: Well, Assface read this and thought it was behind his back. I wanted him to read this so maybe he would realize how I felt and try to talk to me. I knew if I tried he would yell at me for an apology. But now I found out while I was gone from school, he was apparently trying to get people to "pick sides" between me and him. And I'm afraid. I'm afraid to lose all my friends because he might make it look like I'm the bad guy without giving me a chance. I don't know what to do now... Pfft, well, at this point, he seems like a MAJOR insensative a*****e, and he's acting VERY immature. Best bet would be to ignore him. Don't let him try to make your friends pick sides. Besides, if those friends were really friends, they wouldn't fall prey to this childish crap he is trying to pull. Think of it as "spring cleaning" you can weed out the true friends from the ones who obviously don't care about your feelings.
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