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It's one of the most controversial topics of our time, and something that many people feel very strongly about: Abortion.

I was just wondering what your thoughts were on the subject? Have you ever had a discussion with someone who disagreed with what you thought about it? What about the RU-486 pill (click here to read about it)?

Below I'll list some of the popular arguments that I have heard about abortion, and let you respond to them if you would like:

-The fetus isn't human/it's only human after so many weeks.
-It's a woman's choice what she wants to do with her body.
-"I have given birth before and I would never make someone go through that if they didn't want to."
-If the woman is raped and concieves she shouldn't have to keep the baby.
-Rape is used as a tool of war in other countries in Africa, so abortion should be legalized.
-If we don't legalize abortion, then it could cause numerous fatalities and dangerous health risks if women go see a doctor that does them illegally.
-"I'm not pro-abortion, I'm pro-choice. I wouldn't get an abortion myself but I think the option should be open to other women."

Any other arguments you've heard?

Additional discussion topics:
Guys, how do you feel about all this "it's a woman's choice" stuff? What about in cases of rape or if the woman could die in childbirth? Morning-After pill?

(Also keep in mind that I designed this topic without reference to God because I know that there are non-Christians in this guild, but you are perfectly free to bring Him into it and quote the Bible if you would like.)

Abortion can be a difficult subject in Christianity, which many might not know this. Its quite commonly preached today that abortion methods are completely immoral in all scenarios. I greatly despise Liberalism/Pro-Choice arguments except the choice for a rape victim. I agree with most of the teachings in the Church about abortion such as it being immoral to use it for birth control. I also believe its alright morally for rape victim to get an abortion as long as they do it immediately or quickly before the fetus can function on its own.

Indeed! 3nodding

pro-choice is exactly what god is for, god gave us one choice in the beginning. either eat the apple or resist temptation. we ate the apple. by giving us one choice he gave us the responsibility to take on many choices. i think if your a man, you should give no negative comments about abortion or just stay out of the subject completely. the thing is though, why only give abortion rights to married couples and rape victims. by giving us the chance to eat the apple, he was also saying either everyone should have the choices or noone, and thats why we have this today, but i'm 100% pro choice. a good book is mere christianity by CS Lewis, because it shows me the difference between good and bad as a fact and good and bad as an opinion. it also talks about choice, which is what this is about

i'm not saying that, i'm saying 2 things, unless you;ve had kids, than i don't think anything negative should be said about women who choose to have an abortion, and number 2, who decides if its murder, god doesn't tell us whether or not abortion is murder, and also, the life is stopped early enough to were there can be an argument made, are you killing a life, or stopping the life from ever happening, and thats not murder

Jeremiah 1:5
"Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations."


This is talking of Jeremiah I think. Need to read that book. Anyhow, I think the first part applies to all of us. He knew us before we were concieved. Hence we have life the moment we are concieved. Meaning the moment the sperm fertilizes the egg.

The main thing I don't understand about the Abortion debate is how people can be pro-choice in only some circumstances. Murdering a born child is never ok, even in situations of "self-defence" ... try convincing a judge and jury that your life was in danger from a two-year-old, so you had to kill him. I don't think any woman who is fit to be a mother would choose her own life over her child's, so I don't think that we should perform abortions even if the mother's life is in danger. I think instead of figuring out ways of killing our young, we should be using our medical knowledge to work out ways to save both the mother and the child. I also don't think it should be an option in cases of rape; two wrongs do not make a right, remember? Not to mention, having an abortion can be just as detremental to a woman's state of mind as rape, so she's only doing more damage to herself by having one. And having a child after a rape can often be a healing experience.

If God knows us before we are born we are alive to Him. And He is all that matters.