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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 9:02 pm
So, in CANADA (just so people understand this thread isn't about the US), the morning-after Pill (Plan B, among other brands I think) is now available in local pharmacies without a prescription.
Pros? Cons? Risks? Opinions?
(Note: Opinions must be legitimately backed up, and no flaming please. Flames will result in a warning.)
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 1:39 am
Okay, in the US, you can get it without a Rx as well, but you have to go to a clinic, liked Planned Parenthood to get it. I don't think it SHOULD be a pharmacy over-the-counter drug. At Planned Parenthood, if you want to get it, they ask you some health questions and check allergies and other things for a reason - it's not safe for just anyone to take. Just like any other drug, it can have side-effects when taken with other meds, which is another reason to have to talk to a pharmacist or someone knowledgable before taking it. Also, if you have to go through a private meeting at Planned Parenthood, it's a little more effort than just picking it up. I think having it THAT readily available is just asking for people to be less responsible: "Hey, it's okay if we don't have a condom. I can just stop by Walgreens and pick up a morning after pill." Things like that should be used in accidental situations, like when a condom breaks, or whatnot. It shouldn't be available as a form of birth control, which it would be. Some girls would probably figure they don't have sex often enough to get on BC, so not just keep some of these around to pop after having sex? But this is all just my opinion, but I think there should be SOME restriction. I mean, for gods sake, we can't even buy Sudafed without going to a pharmacist in the States anymore.
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 8:17 am
A big con to me is people teenagers will end up using it as a form on contraception, and not just in an emergancy. I don't think it's right. I understand how mistakes happen but it should not be used in replacement of contraception.
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 11:00 am
I don't think teens will use it all the time instead of getting a more healthy contreception. Why? Because the morning-after pill has some serious side effects. It can make a person extremely sick and I don't think any teen would be willing to go through it more than once or twice (if they have to). Sure, there may be the odd ball out there who would do it in that fashion, but I am pretty sure the majority will not. I really think it's just silly to think so little of people. Just because a few will abuse it, doesn't mean it shouldn't be readily available for those who wouldn't. I mean, would you make asprin, tylenol, cold medication all prescription, just because there are people who abuse it?
Pros:
Terminating a possible pregnancy in the Comfort of your own home. Can have support right there with you. Don't have to wait days or weeks for a clinical Abortion. Cheaper than a surgical abortion. Less trama (if any at all, not everyone comes out feeling bad.) Victim's of sexual assault will not have to rely on a doctor to prescribe them the medication. Will not have to deal with protestors or being seen going in or out of a clinic. Is not an invasive surgery, like that of abortion.
Cons:
Overuse and/or Abuse. Possible complications. Side-Effects (but really these are with any OTC or Prescription Medication.)
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 2:00 pm
Yi Min I don't think teens will use it all the time instead of getting a more healthy contreception. Why? Because the morning-after pill has some serious side effects. It can make a person extremely sick and I don't think any teen would be willing to go through it more than once or twice (if they have to). I've known quite a few people who have taken it, myself included, who didn't get sick or feel anything afterwards. For people like that, it's an easy after-thought form of birth control. I think you underestimate the lack of foresight in teens. If they figure, "Hey, it's okay, I can go get the pill tomorrow" I think they're going to shun a lot more responsibility.
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 2:58 pm
The way I had it described to me by my midwife who perscribed it for me as a JUST IN CASE should our first method of birth control (condoms) fail before my husband gets his vascectomy and all that jazz, was that it is pretty much two pills of highdose type hormonal birth control.
Plan B is NOT an abortifactant (Like RU 486) it can not "dislodge" an implanted fertilized egg. It stops fertilization and/or implantation. Which is why it has to be taken no more than 72 hours and ideally ASAP.
Knowing WHAT it is and knowing that the risks involved are little to NONE, I'd say it's a good idea to sell it over the counter. But I think with the low amount of side effects of hormonal bc that it's a good idea to sell IT over the counter too. Neither Plan B or regular birth control pills are any more dangerous than Acetaminophin or Benadryl both of which you can buy over the counter.
I mean so what if it has SOME risks.
Ibuprofin can ruin your kidneys. Asprin can destroy your stomach. Aleve can make you break out in hives.
Eh...all medicines have SOME potential risk.
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Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 2:36 am
Savina Yi Min I don't think teens will use it all the time instead of getting a more healthy contreception. Why? Because the morning-after pill has some serious side effects. It can make a person extremely sick and I don't think any teen would be willing to go through it more than once or twice (if they have to). I've known quite a few people who have taken it, myself included, who didn't get sick or feel anything afterwards. For people like that, it's an easy after-thought form of birth control. I think you underestimate the lack of foresight in teens. If they figure, "Hey, it's okay, I can go get the pill tomorrow" I think they're going to shun a lot more responsibility. I still think it's extremely silly to say that just because a few will do it, that you should make it prescription only. Hell, if we are going to start making medicines prescription based on the negatives effects on those who use it improperly, then ALL medicines should be precription.
Nopenname- I was getting the side effects of Plan B and RU 486 mixed up. redface
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Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 7:45 am
Yi Min Savina Yi Min I don't think teens will use it all the time instead of getting a more healthy contreception. Why? Because the morning-after pill has some serious side effects. It can make a person extremely sick and I don't think any teen would be willing to go through it more than once or twice (if they have to). I've known quite a few people who have taken it, myself included, who didn't get sick or feel anything afterwards. For people like that, it's an easy after-thought form of birth control. I think you underestimate the lack of foresight in teens. If they figure, "Hey, it's okay, I can go get the pill tomorrow" I think they're going to shun a lot more responsibility. I still think it's extremely silly to say that just because a few will do it, that you should make it prescription only. Hell, if we are going to start making medicines prescription based on the negatives effects on those who use it improperly, then ALL medicines should be precription.
Nopenname- I was getting the side effects of Plan B and RU 486 mixed up. redface No prob. The clarification was more for why I think Plan B over the counter is okay. RU 486 I'd have a bit more of a problem since it's IS an abortion in a pill. There are many more problems with that. Plan B has some nausea and spotting and cramping symptoms. It also has the same risks of blood clot etc. That regular BC does.
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 2:07 pm
Nopenname No prob. The clarification was more for why I think Plan B over the counter is okay. RU 486 I'd have a bit more of a problem since it's IS an abortion in a pill. There are many more problems with that. Plan B has some nausea and spotting and cramping symptoms. It also has the same risks of blood clot etc. That regular BC does. I see. 3nodding
I'd have a problem with RU 486 being over the counter as well. It's something that should be monitored because it can have more extreme effects on a person.
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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 12:38 am
[CherryBlossom] A big con to me is people teenagers will end up using it as a form on contraception, and not just in an emergancy. I don't think it's right. I understand how mistakes happen but it should not be used in replacement of contraception. This is a very good point. I can see some of the girls in my town relying on the moning after pill and taking it for granted.
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 12:43 pm
In Sweden these pills are also "freely" available at pharmacies. Personally I have used it once (due to a burst condom), but I would never rely on it as a BC and even though I didn't suffer any side effects I hope not having to use it again. I think it's a good thing these pills are available like this, I know I would have been very embarrased to have to go to a doctor, and considering how hard it is to get appointments nowadays it probably would have been to late if I would have had to.
I do think it was a little bit to easy to buy it, nobody ask any questions. Even though this was a relief at the time it could mean some bad consequences. What if I had had some kind of allergy? Or taken some other kind of medication? Not everybody bothers to read the little information sheets inside the package..
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 5:40 pm
I'm pro this because, knowing my doctor's office, it can take up to a month to get an appointment, EVEN if it's an emergy. By then, it's an abortion, not just a little pill.
I don't really care if girls use the morning after pill as a contraceptive. I'm sure it's unhealthy for them, but that's their choice. I only don't care if girls start using an abortion as a form of birth control. If they are willing to go through all of that and run the risk of getting very ill (or not being able to have children later in the case of an abortion), that's their business. This goes for anything in the first trimester. Beyond that, it becomes a little questionable and I think that abortions should only be allowed in special circumstances.
I do, however, think that pharmacists should provide them with information about possible side effects (including those from long term use). Other than that, it's not a baby yet, it's a clump of cells. I don't see it as being that big a deal to the moral fiber of society.
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 1:18 am
Kukushka I do, however, think that pharmacists should provide them with information about possible side effects (including those from long term use). Other than that, it's not a baby yet, it's a clump of cells. I don't see it as being that big a deal to the moral fiber of society. Hmm. Maybe it should be available in the way that Sudafed is right now (although for different reasons)? Where while you can still get it without a Rx, you still have to have the pharmacist give it to you from behind the counter, so he can at least go over the really important facts (and maybe slip a few free condoms in the bag with it).
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 6:40 am
Savina Hmm. Maybe it should be available in the way that Sudafed is right now (although for different reasons)? Where while you can still get it without a Rx, you still have to have the pharmacist give it to you from behind the counter, so he can at least go over the really important facts (and maybe slip a few free condoms in the bag with it). Exactly. So not just on the shelf with the makeup and hairbrushes, but not requiring a whole huge shabang with making a doctor's appointment and all that.
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 11:18 pm
Kukushka I'm pro this because, knowing my doctor's office, it can take up to a month to get an appointment, EVEN if it's an emergy. By then, it's an abortion, not just a little pill. I don't really care if girls use the morning after pill as a contraceptive. I'm sure it's unhealthy for them, but that's their choice. I only don't care if girls start using an abortion as a form of birth control. If they are willing to go through all of that and run the risk of getting very ill (or not being able to have children later in the case of an abortion), that's their business. This goes for anything in the first trimester. Beyond that, it becomes a little questionable and I think that abortions should only be allowed in special circumstances. I do, however, think that pharmacists should provide them with information about possible side effects (including those from long term use). Other than that, it's not a baby yet, it's a clump of cells. I don't see it as being that big a deal to the moral fiber of society. The Plan "B" pill isn't an abortion. It's an extra dose of BC to keep the egg from being fertilized or implanted in the first place. A woman isn't pregnant until the fertilized egg is implanted and begins to multiply. So really, it's just flushing out another egg.
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