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Innocentblackshadow

PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 3:55 am


A guild dedicated to inflating.

All credit to Virgil for posting the guild on.
PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 7:18 am


surprised confused

[DJ]
Vice Captain


xyzse

PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 7:55 am


You mean because of things like this?
http://www.gaiaonline.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12838796&page=1

I know about it.
I have known about it. Why else would I keep excel lists huge and long for my own usage. Why else do I have to think at least five steps ahead.

This is so that I can basically say... "I do not want to do business with you".
As that is also legal in the Gaian TOS.

sweatdrop I was hoping that only few would know about the legalities of it. So now things will be a bit different.

Which basically means I really have to hurry up with my project.
I will probably create a hidden guild as a compendium of names, mules account id numbers of those I will not do business with. In case people want to see it one day.

My goal is not really anti-inflation any more. It hasn't been that for a while. My goal is lofty, in the sense that I want a betterment of gaian society. To have people slow down, talk and think more rather than be slaves to the market and items. Crap like this just makes my job a lot harder.
PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 8:00 am


xyzse ~ Sadly yesh i love your thinking. They turned down this account into that guild, they accepted a mule of mine.

~ I can now see everyone who inflated the horns, 2004 items, even the whips which they are trying to keep at 10k for the second time. As it failed when the new sealed came out.

Innocentblackshadow


xyzse

PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 8:27 am


Understood.
Though I am sure they will turn down my account as apparently despite myself I am known. Crud!!!!!

Any how... I said too much, my secret plans are still secret. twisted
Besides, most of what I do now are for ME... My Enjoyment.

I suffered a set-back, and if I can't find a colorist a lot better than me, I have to step up and learn a few more things to make me happy.
PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 9:56 am


rofl Im wanna know your secrets. Its so mean to post snapics of them mrgreen

what do you mean? you do line art and have a colourist?

cool cool

Innocentblackshadow


Innocentblackshadow

PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 10:26 am


PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 10:27 am


Hmm. I agree with X, we cannot fight inflation no more. It's impossible. There's too many of them and not enough of us. Sure we could try, but we'll simply waste our funds and time.

We need to help to the cause: To make Gaia a better place. 3nodding


[DJ]
Vice Captain


WintersLove

PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 3:37 pm


Winter.
Loves you.
Adores you.
Wants you.
Desires you.
Winter wants Lily.


Woah...


Loves.
I love you.
I want you.
I need you.
I desire you.
Winter loves Lily.
PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 5:50 pm


Ah yes, those guys.

I have someone on the inside (did, anyway; they're trying to get back in, got banned for lack of posting).

If they get back in, I'll be sure to send any information we garner your way. For now, steer clear of the whips; they're attempting to inflate them to 9 or 10k+.

Miria Bardiel


Miria Bardiel

PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 6:10 pm


xyzse
You mean because of things like this?
http://www.gaiaonline.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12838796&page=1

I know about it.
I have known about it. Why else would I keep excel lists huge and long for my own usage. Why else do I have to think at least five steps ahead.

This is so that I can basically say... "I do not want to do business with you".
As that is also legal in the Gaian TOS.

sweatdrop I was hoping that only few would know about the legalities of it. So now things will be a bit different.

Which basically means I really have to hurry up with my project.
I will probably create a hidden guild as a compendium of names, mules account id numbers of those I will not do business with. In case people want to see it one day.

My goal is not really anti-inflation any more. It hasn't been that for a while. My goal is lofty, in the sense that I want a betterment of gaian society. To have people slow down, talk and think more rather than be slaves to the market and items. Crap like this just makes my job a lot harder.
Please let me join if you do, I plan to boycott the few people I know for a fact are part of this guild.
PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 7:01 pm


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Great...
At least we have some people on the inside, but it's still way too much to handle.

Icarus 2.0


WintersLove

PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 7:59 pm


Bored.
Winter hates you.
Winter hates it.
Winter hates.
The Start.


Yeah...But it can change! Can't it?


Entertain.
Winter has.
Winter desires.
Winter dreams
Of the End.
PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 11:03 pm


DJ - No, that is not exactly what I am saying. I have to clarify... I mean, fighting inflation is merely one part of the whole for the betterment of a gaian society. There has to be anti-inflators and this struggle must be done, I am just mentioning that the stack is against it.

To explain, in the end there are always differing sides in a society and as such I do not mind it as much. I have always expected greed and despite being against it, I accept it as just part of the package. Meaning, I intend to have fun regardless of what they do.

The listing is always fun. This is the problem for a spread-sheet nut like myself, I do crap like this but I am not sure of the legalities of publishing it. I am one of those who are pragmatic enough to be sin the middle though leaning towards and working for the under-dog. I mean, I can easily make a hidden guild like that and populate it with a "List", but that is merely an escalation.

You also have to consider that to be able to buy items, you need to still deal with greedy individuals. To be able to auction things or sell things, you will have to deal with greedy individuals, especially if you are either 1) selling art, 2) auctioning common items for status, 3) anything dealing with an auction. Why? Because more often than not, they would be the ones that have the items.

There are individuals with items a.k.a. gaian wealth that actually try to pay it forward. Where due to already being wealthy, they can do sales and give-aways, run discount stores or pull off stunts like some of us do, but they are quite often out-numbered. There are also those who have been around here for ages, but most of them are of a neutral state. So in the end, many who actually pay for auctions pay for items that are accrued through the method of "gouging".

So in summary, if I were to publish a list or create a guild that gives such a list, anything I do will be associated with that. So, I will not get a higher bidding, which in turn limits what I can do. The current project I am doing hopefully can break through that, but as I mentioned I am not happy with it, and as such it is set back again. -- DJ - Fighting inflation is a necessary thing and still needs doing. It just needs to be a counter-balancing force. Hence, I admire Lexi_Plexi's efforts as she has a genuine and solid method of generating funds to run her projects, even though I am unsure if a 1K sealed drive would do much. I mean, I did a 2 to 3 a day 3K sealed letter sale to no avail, 1K is bordering charity.

I do not mean to be rude or anything just laying things straight as I see it currently.

InnocentBlackShadow - Awww, I am sorry... I thought I was 80% done, but I found out that I have to learn a lot more first before I can say that. I ended up having to re-do a lot of things. I mean granted it seems fine, but I am not happy with it. Since I am not happy with it, I get to fool around with it a bit more.

Lucifer_Satan - With you, I am glad you finally started the art auction. One problem I have with it however is you have not fully considered what to do next. The other auction fizzled and did not end, and I trust that you will stay this time? You already "broke faith" with this place, and which is why I mistrusted it to begin with. Which is also why I tend not to follow the propaganda and those that make promises too casually.

-------
I admit, I am way too busy in real life to be able to do anything here easily. Being a nut like myself is no help either.
Back then, the admin and mods actually bothered and were concerned about price-gouging and such. Which was why there were individuals that got banned for scamming. That is not really the case any more.

I also realized that there are harvesters in gaia, who try to make profit to sell the items on e-bay. I do not really care if they do this either, it is their time and effort, and whomever pays them, that is their business.

Just have to adapt to the reality that more and more people are finding out about these things. Which is why I bounced back and do not really care if people say what I do is pointless. The fact that I am having fun is all the point I need. I applaud the sentiments and the trial of doing this, since if not us, who else would?

((Ok, I confused even myself))

xyzse


Three Million

PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 11:40 pm


I can't believe such a place exists! that's just disgusting.

Please let us know the list of people in it, I don't want to do business with them ever, not when they work toward such horrible ends!
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