October 23rd

[NPC] Gaia Staff
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Welcome Back!

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Features
What will happen to Towns 1 and Towns 2 after Flash loses support,
will they be combined into Towns 3 or simply be replaced with Towns 3?


Towns 3 will replace Towns 1 and Towns 2 in time, we will implement as much features as possible, though some features such as Gaia Homes might not be supported in the future.

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Features

There's a new bug that showed in the avatar dressing room about a week ago. When I save an avie to the dresser, it doesn't show there until I refresh. Not even the broken image icon shows, just a blank dresser slot.


There are a few errors introduced during the migration, we are actively fixing those bugs this week.

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Features

When going to the Inventory, users always gets to the "Equip" tab by default.
Could you make an option/setting for users to individually choose the default tab?


Default tab is a good idea, we will probably change it to remember your last tab visited first, before a default option.


Lanzer
Hello everyone! The Halloween event is slated for this Wednesday, meanwhile the Halloween components in zOMG should be available today.


Lanzer
2sammygate
features

the market graphs don't work. you have to make the target start with this:
https://v1cdn.gaiaonline.com/gaia/members/vend/10454423_avg_month.png
so that we can all vend properly. D:


Uh oh! The fix should be pushed out in a few minutes. Sorry for the many bugs related to the migration.


codemonkey37179
Zakuro Moon
codemonkey37179
Zakuro Moon
Misc

Question: From a amateur coders curiosity, How is the transfer going to html5?


Which part? Rally 3 is in progress. The HTML5 version of flash spaces. HTML5 spaces is a bit of a mouthful though. Gotta get a better name.
Most of it, I'm guessing your changing all the games over to H5? (Is that easier XD).


Tackling Rally first. I will get to the games in time. It is a bit easier working on the games. Whenever you have a program where 50 users give input at the same time, it gets complicated.
Riyokuma
codemonkey37179
Pie
Why not just call 'em... I 'unno, Social Spaces, or something like that? Focus on the purpose rather than the backend.


I like the name "Social Spaces"!

Anybody else like that?
Better than the ones I was thinking of H Spaces or 5 Hangouts. lol

[Over in the By Subject subforum, I've been calling them Virtual Worlds for the past couple months, but if Gaia Staff officially settles on something else I'll adopt their term. -Platonix]

Jak Bauer
Bryie
Features

Hihi.

I was wondering if any progress on the ban appeals has happened? I'm just a little worried since I was banned on my main account (and am fighting it) in April, and people I know that were banned in March(ish) have already gotten their answers. I'm worried because I have had that account since the very beginning and even now I try to support Gaia.

I love Gaia and I was just curious, cause well. I am worried it all got lost. I still have all the emails, the people are still willing to defend me on what happened and screen shots of what I could.

I just really don't want to get lost in the system, especially with something I have spent literally half my life on. sad

I apologize if I am being rude by asking, at this point I am just a little scared.


Hi there,

Things are a bit backed up, but work is being done on the queue. If you PM me with your ticket number I can look into it. I can't promise to solve it but I can make sure it hasn't gotten lost or something.


Lanzer
Uesugi Ankit
Games

uwu Hi Lanzer sama senpai uwu Are you still working on fixing the End Boss gold output on zOMG?! uwu


Not able to work on it at the moment because of the migration, but will definitely make it much better very soon. Expect first week of November


codemonkey37179
TheOpenBox
Features

Is there going to be a alpha/beta for new HTML5 hangouts (Towns3, Rally, and all updated old flash spaces)?

If so, is there a way to get into those tests or will it be announced in the future?


For members of Scas, there is already a test in progress.


Lanzer
ChaosTrooper
Items

Are there any plans to ever re-release the kin made from the Kindred Capture Seal, somehow?
(AKA Brilliant Cabochomp, Ember the Crimson Fox, Mewntor Mittens, Skelekitty.)


Yes, I'm asking the art team to look into it.
Yuroppa
Princess Kunzite
2sammygate
Princess Kunzite
... Honestly, this worries me.
While I downright hate exclusivity of items, there is a promise with these tickets that state that they would remain exclusive to the users and only be re-released in cases of the user being permanently banned or by the user subbing/giving permission to another for a Perfect Parcel. And I'm not really sure what kind of precedence would be set if such a rule is changed, even if it's just for the Capture Seal Kin, but I feel like it'd be a bad one. There are people that have spent a LOT of funds on getting those seals and tickets like the Platinum and Baby Platinum that have the same rule of exclusivity attached. If the rule is changed for the Capture Seal Kin, then what protections are there for those that do have Platinum items that are already out? Or for the people that have submitted such tickets and are still waiting for even an acceptance after a year that have subbed them on the promise of the items being exclusive to them?

While I understand entirely on the desire for people to want these items that have been hidden away by the rules, I REALLY hope you think about how this potential change could affect those that have spent a lot of their money, time, and effort on getting their item (or are still waiting for their item) if you make the allowance on one such ticket.

i think pretty much even the owners of the capture seal hated the 25 kin limit.
I'm sure they do, but that doesn't really change anything...
Gaia has promised exclusivity on several things, from the tiers to the MCs. While those rules have changed, and I've been happy with some of those changes, there was still distrust with the community on Gaia keeping their promises. And there would even be more so if they decide to change the rule on the exclusivity on the ticket types that have that as their promise. So it's my hope - and I'm surely not going to be the only one - that Gaia will tread carefully on this promise because it could affect a lot of existing items, items that are set to come out in the future, and those users both past and waiting.
Kin made with a Capture Seal will not be re-released. Nor will items made with a Platinum/Baby Platinum ticket, etc.


Lanzer
popakin
features - marriage

I think the marriage thing is broken again? ;w;
when will it be fixed?


Can you tell me how it is broken? Any URL or screenshots would help. Thank you.


Lanzer
EternalAnge
Features

Will the migration that's coming up on October 29th affect this year's Halloween event?


We're hoping that we won't encounter any serious downtime, but if there is, we will extend the event to make up for it


Lanzer
2sammygate
games - zOMG

will the large fluffs in the jackyard count towards the pumpkin fluff badge?


yes


Lanzer
kalykaykay
Games-zOMG!

Have you made any changes to the zOMG! Event for this year? i.e Fluff badges and trick or treating?


It's the same as last year, with some adjustments to make things a little easier. The fluff badge should still be there. (if not I'll fix it)


Jak Bauer
nurse lunabutt
Other

Have you guys recently looked at FA applications? There’s been a quite a bit of nasty stuff going on in the forums recently *cough cb cough* and I really think gaia could benefit from a few more FAs.
I subbed an application a while ago but haven’t heard anything one way or the other. ;w;


Hi there,

I can definitely say that FA applications are being looked at, but as I am not in charge of that area I can't say when new FA's will be added unfortunately.


Lanzer
I3efore I3irthday
Games: zOMG!

I'm sorry to bother you, but according to this post, made earlier this year, there would be an Integrity-event (for not trading orbs) "probably after summer" somewhere.
Hence, I'm just curious, is there more information available on when and whether this would happen?

Also, on a similar topic, will there be a zOMG Halloween event?

Thank you in advance.


Sorry we had a couple of bigger projects which pushed the integrity event back. We will work on it as soon as we can.


Zero Omega
Charleys Quick Charity
Items

Would it be possible to sell our items that cost 1p for 1p back to the store instead of getting nothing for them?

You actually do get money for them, it's just that the amount is below the threshold for one platinum.

If an item has a sell back of less than 10 million gold (1 plat), then you get that amount it's just counted toward your gold count.

Let's say your gold count is 10,000,000 (1 Plat)
You sell an item that has a sell back of 500 gold.
Your plat count will stay at 0 (as you didn't accumulate another 10 million gold)
However if you switch back to gold, your gold count will read 10,000,500.

The gold is still counted toward your account, it's just the amount is under 10,000,000 so it doesn't bump your Platinum count up 1. Once you hit over 10,000,000 gold you'll rollover into the next Platinum count. Make sense?


Lanzer
Queer Mishel
More of a forums feature comment.

8 U8 I don't post very often, but I'm having to click those matching box image captchas more than before... even in my own thread. And sometimes I'll have to go through up to 4 sets of image matching, although I get them all correct. I hope you'll consider using a different, less annoying/frequent captcha system in threads?


It's been configured to show up about once a day for normal usage. If and when it happens it should be a one click effort, unless Google's Re-Captcha detect some potential problems. Might you be running any sort of VPN or proxy software?


Lanzer
2sammygate
features

will the new gaia app be released under rolling bunnies? this way if people download lake kindred origin, they'll see the gaia app in "also from this developer" or however it's put.
especially if the new gaia app has registration built in.


When the mobile app's released we will definitely have it mentioned at many places, might or might not be specific to the section you mentioned.


Lanzer
MingSao
Events

During the Grave Danger event forever ago, Mods RP'ed as the NPC characters (and it was awesome. I had a blast being Mantis Sr). Would you ever consider doing that again? Maybe letting SCAS members or ex-mods that are still active do that for future events so that the active Mod team isn't sidetracked from actual Mod duties?

Because I volunteer for that. User Image - Blocked by "Display Image" Settings. Click to show.


We didn't have a volunteer aspect in mid this year, partly because of the migration and other work load happening at the same time, but I will definitely push for that on future events.


Lanzer
DSDragon star
Even with the cloud Cloud computing services , will we still be able to get on gaia ? This concerns the whole site .


Cloud computing simply means that we won't be buying our own computers. Everyone will be able to access all parts of Gaiaonline after the move.


Lanzer
Yours Achingly
Features

Will there ever be an inventory update? I'd like to be able to order items by value and mass delete/donate junk.


Yes sort by value was in alpha testing and can probably be released to accounts with less than 10k items, while mass delete is slated for future release.


Zero Omega
2sammygate
Jak Bauer
2sammygate, bunniplant
[long convo between two users about Gaia's ban policies]

Hi there,

So I can understand, your suggestion is that someone who pays or someone who has what you consider status should be able to get their issues moved in front of other people's issues?

not moved up the queue, but less likely to be PERMABANNED FOR A FIRST OFFENSE.
like, not that they should be immune to consequences (otherwise people would have lists of people to come to the defense of every troll), but they should get longer temp bans (you guys should add a 6 month temp ban) before permaban. they continue misbehaving after THAT ban, then yeah they do get permabanned.

Speaking strictly personally I've always been mostly against implementing a longer ban after a perma because it generally doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

We have a general policy of issuing a lot of warnings before a user is banned, and then you need to accumulate bans before the perma ban. In most cast a user will experience a 3-day ban, then a 14-day ban before the perma. If a user feels they don't understand the specific rule they violated enough after serving a two-week ban, why would a 6 month ban change anything?

Keep in mind that you're generally not banned for violating multiple clauses of the ToS, you receive bans when you keep violating the same clause you were previously warned about. E.g., if you get a warning for abuse, and then a warning for copyright infringement, you aren't going to get a ban for "ToS" violation.

So in order for someone to climb to a perma-ban on a non-serious offense, they have to have a pretty significant history of offenses for the same violation. How would a longer ban assist in stopping that?
Zero Omega
2sammygate
there's so many people that have few or no violations and get a quick permaban out of nowhere for a joke.

new friend of mine got permabanned for an apparent joke that one of those report quota jerks searched for to increase their report count. if there were longer temp bans in the rotation, then things that are an automatic permaban on first offense can be moved down to 6 month or year long ban.

I might be speaking a little more freely as this won't be my purview anymore on the 31st and who knows what will change, but dude, speaking as someone who has done this for a little over 12 years as a mod and admin, the number of times a heavy handed ban is issued is so very, very rare. The team is very well trained on leniency and giving everyone as much as a chance as possible. There have been a number of times both mods and admins have gotten on me for being too generous. There's a large contingent of people who aren't going to tell their friends, "I got banned, but it's because I was warned so many times before about not doing something and I didn't listen and didn't think they would do it." They're going to stretch the truth a bit because getting banned is an embarrassing thing. We would prefer not to issue out bans because it really is the worst thing to happen to a user.

On the topics of "jokes," what I think a lot of people miss is that some "jokes" are jokes that we really can't tolerate and we can't allow. That some "jokes" need to be taken seriously or are otherwise just not appropriate for the site. I can't speak to the specifics of the situation because I don't know those involved, but I've seen a lot of people who have "joked" about things and we, as a moderation team, have to look at it and go, "You can't joke about this stuff, it isn't allowed, and the joke is so bad that it's crossed a line that you just can't ignore it."

I'll admit that it's possible we can probably offer a more formal warning about jokes that cross the line before the ban, and maybe that's something that will change, but without context I can't speak as to whether or not a particular joke has crossed the line and can only speak from the many "jokes" I have seen in the past that people have gotten banned for.
Zero Omega
2sammygate
[bolds the line "offer a more formal warning about jokes that cross the line before the ban"]
please do D:

But even if we did that it doesn't mean that everyone is going to get a pass. That's the thing, without context I can't tell you what "jokes" you're referencing?

Someone joking about being under 13? That is going to get you banned regardless of anything. It's COPPA, if you want that changed you're going to have to rally Congress.

Someone joking about sexually assaulting a minor? You're going to get banned and reported to the police.

Someone joking about murdering someone on the streets? You're likely going to get banned.

Someone joking about DDOS'ing someone else? Yeah, likely get banned.

Someone joking about having plans to shoot up a school or mall? Damn right you're gonna get banned and hopefully have a few cops knock on your door.

These are some examples of things that we can't go, "Oh yeah, you were joking, we can give you one more chance." We have to take them seriously in order to protect the community and the website.
Jak Bauer
I am not sure why you think a joke should get someone out of the consequences of breaking a rule.

For instance, people have long known Gaia does not allow users to joke about being under aged. We are required by law (as in some pretty massive fines per instance) if we knowingly allow an under aged user to stay on Gaia.

And yet, despite our saying it in ATS, multiple times in the past in various threads of users complaining about their bans, and a thread Things not to Joke about on Gaia specifically saying do not do this or we will be forced to ban you, people still think "Oh, it's just a joke! I should be able to say it despite the rules!"


Lanzer
Ryuu-no-Taisho
Game/Events

Will we be able to Trick or Treat in ZOMG's Barton Town this year for the two badges that require us to do so?
I wasn't able to do this in the past because I didn't have a clear understanding of how I was supposed to do the requirement for the 'Jack O'Smasher' and 'Pumpkin King' badges.


I'm not familiar to the tow badges so I'll need to look into it. I will make sure it's available in the event.


Lanzer
Jinglybell
Features

Question: Sorry if its already been asked, but are the MP graphs down due to the server switch or something else?


should be fixed now.


Riyokuma
Yuroppa
codemonkey37179
OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD
Purplesnoopy
I met Lanzer at a panel last year, so I can confirm they are indeed doing them.


Wow, I'm glad to hear that! I don't think I've ever seen anything related to Gaia in the UK sadly, but I would love to attend a panel one day!


Ooooh. So would I. I love the UK.

Let's go to a convention in the UK!! I've never been and would love to go.
I want in on this party.


Lanzer
CraftyRani
Events/Games (Lake Kindred)
Seems pretty pointless to keep asking, but is there any possibility Lake Kindred's gonna have new kins and area(s) before the year ends? Is the game ever gonna get an update whatsoever? crying


Outside of the new Kin with the release of Lake Kindred Origins, there isn't a new area planned just yet. Once we get more resources we will give Lake Kindred another update.


Lanzer
Little Lilo
Feature

Hi staff! There's at least one item still affected by a ghost listing ( a problem back in 2015 or so? ). It keeps the items LBP stuck low while its actual selling price (and ABP) is significantly higher. Who do I contact about getting this fixed?

I've had this thread in Bug Report since Feb with no staff response, although it's been an issue longer than that.

Any help or pointing me in the right direction is appreciated.


I'll look into fixing that. Sorry for the long wait.


it amy
Renji7
sup-qt
Renji7
Has Pop Square been canceled?
I keep looking for it, I am in the Central time zone that should put me 2 hours ahead of PST.

Nope! Still going, just two days a week now instead of daily. You can follow/subscribe to the youtube channel https://www.youtube.com/c/popsquare or fave the live link (like I do haha) https://live.gaiaonline.com/ popcast is now done through gaia's youtube https://www.youtube.com/user/Gaia

Pop Square: Hosted by Byul—your stop for everything K-pop (!popsquare)
Tuesdays 4:30 - 5:00PM PT
Fridays 4:30 - 5:00PM PT

PopCast: Hosted by arli & it amy—Join us to chat about all things Gaia! Pizza! Fun! (!popcast)
Tuesdays 5:00 - 5:30 PM PT
Thursdays 2:00 - 2:30 PM PT

EDITL: you can also join the discord! https://discord.gg/TrxeBG

So no link or icon that shows up anymore?


Sorry, late response! The icon still goes up for live shows, for Pop Cast we didn't have a show last week as we were dealing with some other work that came up. Pop Square has been uploading regular videos onto their channel, although their live streaming has slowed down.

We have plans to do more shows for Pop Cast later this week and I'll be sure to make a post on the discord and Pop Square forums!