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afantasticlie


PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 12:36 pm


Q:: Hi. So, I'm back from a long hiatus and now there is this new, weird money system called Platinum. And, now, I'm like "Gold or Platinum, which is better???"

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GC = Gold Currency/Coin
PC = Platinum Currency/Coin
OC = Original Currency/Coin

Sorry if this makes little sense but I hope it helps ๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿ˜‰๐Ÿ‘‰


A:: First off, welcome back! As for the answer???? It's Platinum. It's just, it's just platinum. Now, if you want reasons and math and knowledge on how much "Gold" you've lost since stubbornly keeping to the past or appreciating all those zeros that you've never seen before since your entire time here on Gaia, sure, but I gotta tell you beforehand, I've come to a disappointing conclusion. We've lost a lot of gold; and I mean A LOT of gold. Plus, I say this with the idea that you have been playing with Gold as your main currency for awhile as I had when I originally came back.

To start from the beginning, there are a few good reasons as to why switching is beneficial, but mainly its the value exchange that is key. Below is a swiped chart from a similar forum explaining the value exchange better than bitter words really can.

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Chart was taken from gold vs platinum by Holy Hate from user fleur.
I don't know if she is the original creator of the chart or not, but there it is.


Located in the left column is the tremendous amount of Gold coins needed to achieve the same value as the amount of Platinum coins found within the right column. It's, It's a lot, right? I think it's a lot. I mean, to every one Gold piece you earn, you are losing over 9 million more in the process. Added to the fact that I was playing zOMG with the OC, I'll confess, I felt my heart break. Here, let me show you why.

Before we start, let me break it down for you zOMGer newbies out there, there is this perfect, little area in the top left corner of Barton Valley where easily-killed fluffs congregate to be massacred, but this is not where the horror show starts. No, it starts with each fluff being worth roughly 312,500 GC. That there is already 9,687,500 GC gone. Poof, like the fluff. And, that's just from ONE fluff alone. There is approximately 25 sand fluffs out there in the 9 square area of farming. 193,750,000 GCs gone forever in a single run, in a single Devish roll before they simply regenerate again, so its only 194 million lost over and over and over again. How many runs do you normally do before calling it quits? How much is gone? It's mildly upsetting, I know.


Now, If you want to cry some more, here is some equations for you that didn't quite fit into my tedious rant. Almost as tedious as this currency system.

Q: How many sand fluffs in the OC is needed to achieve one Platinum coin?
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A: 32 Fluffs, 7 more than the Sand Fluffs provided in the Farming area. Minus the provided Grass Fluffs, you will still be lacking one fluff.
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      10,000,000 (1 PC in Gold value) / 312,500 (the reward for 1 dead Fluffs) = 32 (the number of fluffs needed to achieve 1 PC with GCs)
      32 (the number of fluffs needed to achieve 1 PC with GCs) - 25 (the amount of Sand Fluffs in the area) = 7 (the number of fluffs still needed to achieve 1 PC with GCs)
      7 (the number of fluffs still needed to achieve 1 PC with GCs) - 6 (the amount of Grass Fluffs in the area) = 1 (the number of fluffs - s t i l l - needed to achieve 1 PC with GCs)


Q: Well, that doesn't sound too bad. Why not just stick to the Gold currency?
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A: You can if you want (I'd rather not play your mother), but here's the math. A single run through of the Farming area and only killing Sand Fluffs, you get about 193,750,000 in Gold which would round about to be 19 Platinum as it is. To get to this 193,750,000 GC, you need to kill 25 different Sand Fluffs. In Platinum, they would generate a single coin as reward. Are you picking up what I am putting down? Yes? No? You've lost 6 PC or 60,000,000 GC as a result with using the Gold currency.
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      312,500 (the reward of 1 sand fluff in GC) x 25 (the number of Sand Fluffs) = 193,750,000 (the total value of 25 dead sand fluffs in GC)
      193,750,000 (the total value of 25 dead sand fluffs in GC) / 10,000,000 (1 PC in Gold value) = 19.375 (the conversion from GC to PC) โ‰ˆ 19 (rounding down the conversion of GC to PC for the sake of easier math lmao)
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      1 (the reward of 1 sand fluff in PC) x 25 (the number of Sand Fluffs) = 25 (the total value of 25 dead sand fluffs in PC)
      25 (the total value of 25 dead sand fluffs in PC) / 1 (total value of PC in PC for easier parallel examination) = 25 (the total value of 25 dead sand fluffs in PC for easier parallel examination)
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      25 (the total value of 25 dead sand fluffs in PC) > 19.375 (the conversion from GC to PC) or 19 (the rounded number in the conversion of GC to PC)


Q: Ok, ouch. So, how much have I actually lost?
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A: Well, that depends, how much have you actually played? Let us say you stopped playing after your hundredth or so lap.
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      312,500 (the reward of 1 sand fluff in GC) x 25 (the number of Sand Fluffs) = 193,750,000 (the total value of 25 dead sand fluffs in GC)
      193,750,000 (the total value of one lap in GC) x 100 (the number of laps) = 19,375,000,000 (the total number of reward generated in GC)
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      1 (the reward of 1 sand fluff in PC) x 25 (the number of Sand Fluffs) = 25 (the total value of 25 dead sand fluffs in PC)
      25 (the total value of one lap in PC) x 100 (the number of laps) = 2,500 (the total number of reward generated in PC)
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      19,375,000,000 (the total number of reward generated in GC) / 10,000,000 (1 PC in Gold value) = 1,937.5 (the conversion from GC to PC) โ‰ˆ 1,937 (rounded down conversion of GC to PC)
      2,500 (the total number of reward generated in PC) - 1,937 (the conversion from GC to PC) = 563 PC or 5,630,000,000 GC (the difference between playing with GC and PC)
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You, my friend, lost the value of approximately one decent looking item with some change left over i.e. 563 PCs in the span of 30 minutes to a full blown hour. But, that is only on day one. How about day two or three or for the last 3 months?
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      563 (the total value of 2500 dead sand fluffs in PC) x 90 (the approximate number of days in three months) = 50,670 PC or 506,700,000,000 GC (the difference between playing with GC and PC over the span of three months)
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Aaaaaaaaaaaaaand, I made myself sad again.



Platinum is also a handy tool since it bypasses the inflation of all the items, giving you the luxury to not have to mentally juggle over 7 number slots while simultaneously doing math. I mean, there could still be a reason as to why you might want Gold to stay with you. It can make you feel rich, buying from the Gold shops could save you a bit of coinage, you might save a little more in bidding wars at the Marketplace, but, to be perfectly honest, it really is not worth the hassle of going back and forth and back and forth from your account settings just to save on a few more GOLD coins. It really, really isn't. Trust me on this. Any amount of coins to be lost could easily be regenerated from simple surfing or posting or voting in forums.

You with me on this? Yes? Awesome sauce.



Q:: But, how do you change your currency from Gold to Platinum?

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A:: Its simple. This HERE is a link going to your Account Settings. Near the bottom of the left hand column is a subsection that says "CURRENCY TYPE" with two opinions. We want to change that from Gold (top opinion) to Platinum (lower opinion). Save Changes and presto, you're an official Modern Day Gaian.

Now, for whatever reason the link fails or if you need a more visual guidance, I provided some images and steps for you:

Step One:: Be logged in ( อกยฐ อœส– อกยฐ)
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Step Two:: In the upper left-hand corner, in the blue bar beneath your avatar, hover your mouse hand over the MY GAIA tab and click ACCOUNT SETTINGS that is next to the Gear icon
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Step Three:: The new page image should look like the picture enclosed below
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Step Four:: Travel down until you see Currency Type on the left-hand side. Click Platinum
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Step Five:: Travel farther down until you see a golden icon labeled SAVE CHANGES. Click it.
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Step Six:: Say "Hi" to Rina for me
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Step Seven:: Congrats on losing all those zeroes
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EDIT:: Please read and assist me

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!!:: So, apparently, there are some ways Gold can be beneficial and I would like to spread these methods, but seeing as how I'm coming to learn them, I need help. If you are aware of these methods and feel like you know someone or you yourself capable of explaining them coherently, please leave either a link or an explanation below.

Some of these methods include Group mini-games in zOMG and Lake Kindred as a whole. To gather information myself, it would extend past this post's usefulness so if you happen to know what level you must be in LK that your GC earnings are gaining larger than 10 mil, I would appreciate the help. ^-^ Also, if you know of these group games in zOMG and remember how many enemies there are with their gold value. I would appreciate it as well.

Any links provided will be copied here and explanations quoted in spoiler.

Thank you for your patience and assistance. 3nodding
 
PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 9:20 am


afantasticlie
[...] I mean, to every one Gold piece you earn, you are losing over 9 million more in the process. [...]

Nowhere in your post do you mention when/how often you earn Platinum.
Are fluffs 1 plat each? Are voting/browsing payouts 1 plat each? Or are they super rare because of the higher value exchange?

Please help an old geezer understand.

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afantasticlie


PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 12:02 pm


KazeRin
afantasticlie
[...] I mean, to every one Gold piece you earn, you are losing over 9 million more in the process. [...]

Nowhere in your post do you mention when/how often you earn Platinum.
Are fluffs 1 plat each? Are voting/browsing payouts 1 plat each? Or are they super rare because of the higher value exchange?

Please help an old geezer understand.


I apologize for the confusion and lack of additional information. My intended purpose of this post was simply which currency is better to have as default, but I'll be sure to add an explanation on ways to cultivate currency when I gather enough data. If you have any data yourself (for example: how much do you normal earn when surfing or posting; how much do you normally earn when playing the games; what are your normal coin earnings in any daily rewards), please feel free to offer them up. Any help in making this post more helpful will be much appreciated. I have also bolded the basic ideas of what I am explaining if you just want to skip over my ramblings. Those in italics are things I am still unsure of since lacking in personal experience.

Now to your concerns and from personal experience, most enemies on zOMG are one Platinum piece each, never truly straying far from that. If you go to any of the daily rewards NPCs in each area and luckily get a cash reward from them, the amount I normally receive is 25 PC despite it coming up as 25,000,000. I think this is because no one really cared to change the NPC's coding. There are people who claim that the Group Mini Game in Golden Beaches offers more rewards in the Gold currency than in Platinum, but this is unconfirmed and I fully recommend switching between the two currencies to see the results for yourself. You can switch between the currencies while still logged into the game. No need to exit and reload the game, in case you didn't know.

Most original Gaia games that offered Gold as rewards are also a nice place to earn a bit of quick coin. My personal favorite is the Pinball game since it normally pumps out the cost of 5 to 10 laps of farming Sand Puffs with little effort or care in a short manageable time. Of course, whenever I play the game and all my lives are used up, I'll have to manually reset the game and my rewards would show as 0 gold earnings. This is the only glitchy part I know of in this game. My average wins are 200 to 300 PCs a match. I would offer some idea on Word Bump of Lake Kindred, but my Word Bump game would not load for a quick analysis and I'm inexperienced with Lake Kindred. Apparently there is a killer tree in Lake Kindred (LK) that is worth a large sum of Gold pieces that could be equivalent to 100, 1000, or 10000 Platinum. My sources are not really consistent in their explanation on its worth, but they swear that the Gold system is better in playing this game because of some Reward Nerf (or cap). Of course, during what little game play I had, Platinum would have been the better choice. So, I suggest playing and switching between the two currencies again if you get around to that game. I apologize for being of little help there.

As for voting, there are two places you can do so: in the Runway or in the Forums. In the Runway, you will receive a first voting bonus each day that would roughly be about 8 PC, after that all votes will earn 1 PC. If you are consistent in putting at least 1 vote a day in the Runway, you can scrounge up 100+ PC with a Chance Prize in total at the end of the week. The forums on the other hand will just give you 1 PC in voting. Posting there, though, you can possibly receive a 150 PC reward with post earnings steadily losing value until you are posting for an occasional 1 PC reward. In Guilds as well, but I don't know if they are a separate algorithm the connected some how. I suggest Bump pages in the chatterbox or finding a RP group to get the occasional posting reward.

You can also try your luck in offering up your avatar to one of the public contests in the Runway. The rewards there are something to be coveted.

Also, Platinums are not rare, its just the new money system here. You will only receive Platinum, though, if you have that currency type on. After that, they're as common as Gold coins. Traveling the pages and voting will still give you rewards. I believe, though unconfirmed, that the Admins and owners just made everything a little easier for people to acquire what was once unaquireable, bypassing the inflation entirely and making it so that you don't need to spend IRL cash to enjoy the site. I think they lost some profit when users left due to the frustration of it all.

I hope this helps and if I missed anything, please bring it to my attention so I can attempt to be of better help. Thank you and have a lovely day til then. 3nodding
Also, if you notice some misguided information or something that is just plain wrong, please inform me so that I may rectify my mistakes immediately.
PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 2:27 pm


Prince Sander
afantasticlie
If you have any data yourself (for example: how much do you normal earn when surfing or posting


If I got another coin like that or another similar item, should I temporarily switch back to gold, sell it, and then switch back to Platinum?


You made perfect sense, don't worry. ๐Ÿ‘ And, the same issue happened to me. Same coin, same output. I think what happened is that we got the 3k and it didn't show any value as Platinum since it wasn't recoded for the new currency, is less valuable than the Platinum coin itself, and, overall, had no immediate impact on our savings. So, basically, you had the right idea. ๐Ÿ˜‹ EDIT:: But, this is all speculation despite common sense determining otherwise.

And, thank you for the input. I appreciate it. ๐Ÿค—


afantasticlie




afantasticlie


PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 2:53 pm


Prince Sander
Thank you for the reply! It's reassuring to know that we had the same thought process for it.

I suppose another way to know would be to test it as well if I ever get another coin. Hopefully a higher value one so it would be easier to see any changes.

Switch to gold just to check the exact amount, go back to Platinum and sell the coin, and then do a quick switch back to gold to see if I actually got the value of what it was supposed to be.


That's a niffy plan, but, knowing myself, I would botch the plan only to remember it seconds later, lmao.

I also forgot to mention that we get the first posting bonus as 1PC but after that they show up somewhere past a 100 to only descend back into 1PC. You can possibly get about 500 or so before you get back to a single coin... Just in case you didn't know... Also, no problem... ๐Ÿ‘
PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 5:29 pm


Alright, a measly 53 platinum in my account... here goes nothing.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 5:31 pm


KazeRin
Alright, a measly 53 platinum in my account... here goes nothing.
rofl Up to 282 platinum with the Daily Chances I had left. Okay, I'm convinced.
PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 5:38 pm


KazeRin
KazeRin
Alright, a measly 53 platinum in my account... here goes nothing.
rofl Up to 282 platinum with the Daily Chances I had left. Okay, I'm convinced.
725... man I've been wasting time/money.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 5:48 pm


Prince Sander
afantasticlie
I also forgot to mention that we get the first posting bonus as 1PC but after that they show up somewhere past a 100 to only descend back into 1PC. You can possibly get about 500 or so before you get back to a single coin... Just in case you didn't know.


No clue at all. I only post here, so I usually post only one or two times mostly, or there's days I don't post at all, so I never noticed anything higher. xd
1037, posted a few times, took a few polls, everything's down to 1PC, so about 1k/day with like 20 minutes' effort.
PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 5:55 pm


Prince Sander
afantasticlie
I also forgot to mention that we get the first posting bonus as 1PC but after that they show up somewhere past a 100 to only descend back into 1PC. You can possibly get about 500 or so before you get back to a single coin... Just in case you didn't know.


No clue at all. I only post here, so I usually post only one or two times mostly, or there's days I don't post at all, so I never noticed anything higher. xd


lol, I hardly post at all as well. It was only within the last couple days that I actually noticed, mentioning it in case anyone was interested. To be honest, I came back to establish a RP idea, but sticked around for the now accessible items and games.


afantasticlie




afantasticlie


PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 5:58 pm


KazeRin
Prince Sander
afantasticlie
I also forgot to mention that we get the first posting bonus as 1PC but after that they show up somewhere past a 100 to only descend back into 1PC. You can possibly get about 500 or so before you get back to a single coin... Just in case you didn't know.


No clue at all. I only post here, so I usually post only one or two times mostly, or there's days I don't post at all, so I never noticed anything higher. xd
1037, posted a few times, took a few polls, everything's down to 1PC, so about 1k/day with like 20 minutes' effort.


So its 1k + in gains? That's pretty handy for a quick grab of cash. Thank you for relaying that information to us 3nodding
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