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Two days ago, me and this other person decided, for giggles, to do Otami Throne Room on hard. I was running a healer set at the time, and we got up to the vases.
We decided to try again, and we succeed not once, but twice (or even three time) at defeating the Coatl.

The Coatl, if my memory of the lore of Otami Ruins is correct, is something along the lines of a representation of one of the ancient Otami Spirits. To us westerners, this is basically a god.

People say "Oh, you don't need a tank for TR. Just a full crew." Yeah, well, getting a full crew for Throne Room is difficult at best.

For this, you need a healer who knows what they're doing, and, actually, most of these steps are similar to how people do DMS.
I understand that strength is in numbers, but doing this on hard with just two people, at least to me, is much more exhilarating than it is with a full crew.

So, with that being said, here are the "rules" I've found that, for me at least, make this possible.

Recommended buffs and Reasons why

Healing Halo: For better HP recovery.

Divinity: For greater stamina recover

Iron Will: The masks and the Coatl deliver nasty debuffs. You want at least some protection against them

Rock Armor: This is from experience in DMS. If rock drops in DMS, your tank and everyone else is going to die pretty quickly. Same goes for here.

Coyote Spirit: Yes. One of you, most likely the Attacker, are probably going to be carrying three buffs. The reason for this is that it makes kiting easier and it makes running from the Coatl's attack range easier. The reason I said the Attacker is because even the Healer will usually take one attack, usually something that reloads fast such as Mantis. It's not necessary, but when it comes to the masks, it's better if both the healer and the Attacker fight them, and if the healer is running the actual Healer set, especially if it is me, their only attack is adrenaline if they take three buffs, which isn't the best for attacking. See "My Personal Healer Set" for details on why that is.

For Healer: Medic set. Defibrillator and bandaid are a no-brainer, but Diagnose is to draw aggro away, just like the tank does in DMS, and adrenaline is there in case you want to guide you Attacker. The set is also good for when you need to kite and you have two witch doctors on your tail due to the added foot-speed bonus given naturally by this set.


Attacker: Anything that works for DMS is good here for the Attacker. You want damage per second. Since there are only two of you, most likely, there will be less enemies for something like fire rain or water balloon to be as effective as it would be in a full crew.

Healer: Mantis, Bump, Hunter's Bow, or Solar Rays. If you want an attack, you want something that is both stamina efficient and will let you attack often.

The reason I put Mantis first is because this is one that is cost efficient, reloads fast, and does fairly decent damage. Downside is that it is close up, but it has little to no knockback. It also has a chance to induce a Willpower debuff.

The reason I put Bump here is because it reloads fast and has decent attack power. The downside to Bump is that it is less stamina efficient than Mantis, and has the issue of bumping your enemies away which, when it comes to the mask's second form, is not the best thing in the world.

The reason I put Hunter's Bow here is because, like Mantis, it is cost efficient and has fast load time. A downside to this is that it does very little damage. On the upside, it has a chance to inflict a speed debuff and has the longest range of all the rings. This can be useful, but it's still lower on the list than Mantis for damage reasons.

I put Solar Rays here because it is, in theory, the jack of all trades, but master of none. It has decent (remember, you're not an Attacker, Healer), attack, decent range, and a decent reload time. It has the potential to kncok back enemies on higher rage levels and even put them to sleep for a brief time on higher rage levels. The downside is that it is worse than Mantis and Hunter's Bow for reload time, worse than Mantis and Bump for attack power, worse for range than Hunter's Bow, and more stamina hungry than Mantis and Hunter's Bow.


Fitness or Integrity. The luck given by these is merely an added bonus.

Fortune's favor: Luck, as far as I'm aware and from what I’ve read, only affects loot granted, not your stats. If it did, I would say bring it, but in this case I would not.

Misc. Rings

Scaredy cat: It might save you and your partner from being killed by a mask. I personally say "Trust the Healer" but if you take it, I wouldn't judge you. It's like taking Solar into DMS; you're probably not going to run into Grue, but you never know.

Meat: I would not recommend nor would I not recommend this because if you can't trust the Healer, you ...might not survive with or without meat. That's not to say that you can't bring it. Please note that I have never experimented with meat with this, so I can't say anything specific to this situation. I only came to the conclusion stated in the first sentence due to my own knowledge from DMS and my own speculation based on the runs I have done with one person.

Gumshoe: ....No. Just no. If you want something to decrease the foot speed, bring Hunter's Bow.

Abuse: ...Do I even have to say anything about why you don't bring this ring? It's a debuff ring that inflicts the debuff on you.

Turtle: ...I personally have never found a situation where turtle has been put in a good strategy. It might be a good panic button for the Healer, but I would not personally bring it. It's basically a better Rock, but it lasts for a short time and recharges ...at the speed of a turtle. Like I said, it's a panic button.

Fleet feet: This is just like Turtle, only for Coyote. It's a better Coyote, but does not last as long, and it charges slowly, but not as slow as Turtle.

Taunt: Yes, the Healer might be able to use this to draw off aggro, but diagnose heals, and while you are kiting during the fight with the Coatl, your Attacker won't be drawing the aggro from the two enemies.

You keep Saying that Word

This will be updated if there is any confusion of words.


What is Kiting?

Kiting, in DMS lingo, means you run back and forth while the aggro of all the enemies is on you, avoiding taking damage due to the enemy being mainly close range. I think it comes from the way you get a kite into the air: you run back and forth until the wind catches it and takes it high enough. Likewise, while kiting, you run back and forth, staying out of the range of the enemy so that you do not get attacked as often as you would standing.

Why the Healer?

The reason why I say that the Healer should kite is because, while in DMS the tank needs a certain amount of enemies to attack them so they can continue to heal and draw aggro, the Healer in Throne Room needs to be able to get rage up via being attacked and healing the damage done to themselves so that they can heal the Attacker when they come over.

But you're still taking damage!

Yes, but not as much as the Healer would if they were to stand and just take it. If you need rage, you can stop, allow the enemies to attack, heal it up, and then keep running.

But tanks don't do it in DMS, at least not until the Green Room, and you said that the Healer doesn't kite until the Coatl attacks. Why?

While tanks are usually a higher level, around 11.4 I believe, even if you are a higher level, the cap is at 10 for Throne Room. But, like Throne Room, the highest level enemies in Green Room are level 12.5. Think about how much damage the tank would be taking if they were to keep tanking there.

And ...?

While the Healer wouldn't be taking as much damage as they would be if they were to continue tanking, the point of kiting here is to reduce the amount of stamina used to heal themselves. The reason for using Diagnose here is to draw the aggro of the two enemies to them and not the attacker; they don't need to keep doing that like a tank does in Yellow Maze since the only aggro the Attacker will be gaining here is from the Coatl himself, and that guy won't move (lazy bum). The only reason I say that the attacker should stand is due to the fact that the Coatl can draw anyone closer to them. The attacker can sit to recover stamina, but it's an increased risk to both the health they will loose and affect their ability to run to the safe zone, where the Healer is kiting.

But sitting increases Stamina recovered!

Yes, it does. Even so, if you are standing and you have R4 divinity on, when you're not attacking it will recover fairly quick. Not as quickly as you would sitting with that same R4 Divinity, but faster than you would without. There is also the matter of the Great Coatl. He can pull you within striking range, even while you are sitting.

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