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PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 1:45 pm


Okay guys, so its about that time again for us to give our opinions on the months book! So this time around we had the, admittedly, slow-to-start The Gunslinger by Stephen King. I know this book is slow, I know the story starts of very probably as boring, but what it eventually leads into is worth the slow start in my opinion.

After this point, there are Spoilers, so if you have not read you have been warned.

When Roland found Jake in the desert, I was so confused initially. What is this child doing here? Where did he come from? Why is he hiding? And the majority of these questions don't get answered until another book or two into the series. I actually found that as a factor in my continuing to read, the first time through the series.

The slow mutants were so scary when I first came across them, too. And the scene where Roland decides to allow Jake to fall and Jake says "there are other worlds than these" has stuck with me for years. I actually started saying that in situation I felt it fit, lmao.

When Roland finally caught up with Walter, their exchange was so bizarre and I was so confused. I had to read that scene a few times before I understood that their palaver lasted for far longer than it seemed like it took. That time moved a bit differently for them sitting by that fire. For clarification purposes, I read the "remastered" version which is slightly different from the original publication.

The flashback to Tull is interested, but it more serves to give an idea of A) the state of the Gunslinger, and B) the state of the world he's travelling through. The part with the lonely farmer and his bird was similarly to show the state of the world, but also to show how rusty Roland's people skills have gotten.

The part with Jake was to show how weird and single-minded the Gunslinger had gotten. That rather than rescue this child, he would abandon him to his fate just to catch up with the Man in Black.

The Man in Black himself is a character from Roland's past, and understanding why Roland was truly so single-minded about catching him requires reading the books. But I have theories that he is a few other characters, and not just in The Dark Tower books. Stephen King has several related stories, including Insomnia, The Stand, IT and several others. There's a collection of four stories called Hearts in Atlantis that is, in fact, directly tied to this story, and there are a lot of others as well, including The Little Sisters of Eluria, a short story in another compilation book.


Over-all, as a first step in a seven part story, it's good but as I stated several times, it's very slow to get going.

But right now, there's so much of the full story untold and I'd love to see your thoughts on how it starts off.
PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 11:14 am


I almost gave up on this book before even finishing it... But I did make it through. I'm clearly not a Stephen King fan.

The first part of this novel (I also read the new version) made me think of a particularly disgusting rendition of Cormac McHarty's The Road (which I enjoyed only after finishing it, while I was thinking about it). What disturbed me most is that the character has an obvious purpose, but it's both absurd and blown completely out of proportion. I was glad when we got the flashback explaining where Roland came from, but it still wasn't enough for me to understand or appreciate his character. I could kind of enjoy those parts, but they didn't tie in nicely with the rest, nor justify adult Roland's crooked perception of the world. At least, not enough to my liking.

The encounter with the man in black and that priest in the town did hint at some interesting things, especially for someone who has read Insomnia with that whole thing about the Red King and the multiple worlds, but it didn't catch my interest enough to redeem the book.

I did like Jake and was curious to find out where he came from, how he got there, and what this almost deserted land he'd wound up in was, but overall it's looking bleak to me. I might actually skip the rest if we do end up reading the rest of the series for this club...

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 4:52 pm


FindingJackie


That's fair, the first book in the series is the hardest to get through. The rest of the series introduces other main characters and Roland's perception of things begins to alter. The general style of the storytelling between book one and the rest is, in my opinion, different.

The Dark Tower touches on and links to many other King books. The Crimson King is supposed to be quite the villain.
PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 5:41 pm


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That's fair, the first book in the series is the hardest to get through. The rest of the series introduces other main characters and Roland's perception of things begins to alter. The general style of the storytelling between book one and the rest is, in my opinion, different.

The Dark Tower touches on and links to many other King books. The Crimson King is supposed to be quite the villain.

Hmm... I might trust you and at least give the second book a chance if we ever get to it, then. I'm definitely not actively seeking it out on my own, though.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:10 am


Once again I find myself agreeing with FindingJackie (we seem to have some similar tastes.) First off, bit of history here, I will be reading the entire series whether its chosen or not as I am living with (now engaged too!!) a Stephen king fan who has extolled the virtues of this series, that and with the movies coming out it's pretty much a prerequisite to read the books before the film for me. I also have already read it twice so I can write about it without rereading it again.

Without getting into spoiler territory, It's a good start for me. But by the Gods, it did start off slow. And Roland was such a hard protagonist to get behind. No compassion, no real personality other than a mission which is a major pet peeve of mine. Give protagonists personalities, not just goals. I enjoyed the flashbacks, and infact enjoyed Roland more in them than I did in the timeline we saw him in.

The entire book seemed like it would be better after reading the entire series, which I will do, but for now it was pretty ok.
PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 9:18 pm


Yeah, again I gotta say, The Gunslinger is by far the hardest of the Dark Tower books to get through. Revised edition or otherwise, it is a hard, grueling read. Roland's personality definitely shines through more in the other books, where he interacts with more people more often, which I think is supposed to be the point of who he is at the start of the story? Like, I want to say so much more but honestly I can't without really spoiling stuff.

So I can't say I'm disappointed by the reaction of "this was hard to get through." I was honestly expecting it.

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