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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 3:38 pm


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 5:27 pm


User Image - Blocked by "Display Image" Settings. Click to show.Senshi: Sailor Patroclus, Senshi of Envy

Challenge: "It is the green-eyed monster which doth mock."

Fuku Colour:
Main Color: Emerald green
Secondary Color: Royal purple

Fuku:

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Attacks:

Patroclus's first two attacks are intended to play on Envy being "coveting what you don't have" and how it often twists into simply wanting to destroy someone else's nice things because you can't have them. His Eternal should be fairly obvious in its tie to the sphere!

Sailor Scout Attack: Envious Whisper!
Patroclus speaks the name of his attack and he gestures at one opponent, who is briefly surrounded by a burst of green sparkles. Depending on class, the magic applies the following effects: Senshi lose one use of their basic attack; Knights lose a quarter of their remaining magic pool; or Negaverse officers are unable to summon their weapon for thirty seconds. Patroclus can use this attack three times per battle.

Super Sailor Scout Attack: Envious Glare!
Patroclus speaks the name of his attack, and he gestures at one opponent, who is briefly surrounded by a burst of green sparkles. Depending on class, the magic applies the following effects: Senshi lose two uses of their most powerful attack, up to Super stage (or one of their most powerful and one of their second most, if the most powerful only has one remaining use); Knights lose half of their remaining magic pool; or Negaverse officers are unable to summon their weapon for thirty-five seconds. Patroclus can use this attack twice per battle.

Eternal Sailor Attack: Envious Dissent!
Patroclus whispers the name of his attack, and gestures subtly at two targets (potentially including himself). One will be briefly surrounded by light green smoke, the other by dark green. For the next forty seconds, the target marked light green will begin to feel envious of the target marked dark green, which ticks over into a twenty-second powerful urge to do violence to the target of their envy, with the magic lasting 60 seconds total. Patroclus can use this attack once per battle.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2017 9:35 pm


Noir Songbird


Hi Song!

Congrats on Patroclus~!

However, before I can stamp him there's a few things I'd like to go over for some clarification!

For his attacks visually there's some potential overlap involving the green eyes and smoke! Sailor Pandora also uses similar visual cues for her attacks, with this in mind these need to be tweaked so there's less overlap here.

Also for his basic and super attack, the way they're written now, it sounds like they could take an attack from potentially an eternal or royal senshi. Not to mention these attacks wouldn't be effective against first stage knights since pages don't get magic. I'd suggest here, that the attacks do two things, for knights it could also stop them from summoning their weapons much like it does negaverse agents- which would also keep them from using their magic. And for the senshi's I believe the attack should instead of taking the highest ranking magic, magic that matches the level of his attack used. So if he used basic, it'd lock out a basic attack, and super could lock out super or basic attack. This would still take that energy from the eternal and royal senshi's without over powering them.

Now then for his eternal could you do me a favor and clarify who the first target is? As it stands I'm not sure who the first or second target it without assuming and this could get confusing in battle as well.

If you have any questions or need me just quote and I'll be back!
PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2017 10:21 pm


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Hi, LP!

I've made some tweaks and clarifications to his magic, particularly to aesthetics and to exclude Royal magic from his Basic and Super, but given that this is envy-based magic, I feel it is entirely appropriate for his magic to target attacks stronger than his. It's envy, it should go for the brighter, stronger, better thing -- that said, I'm not opposed to cutting his number of uses, if that's a concern?

I'm also pretty okay with it being ineffective against Pages, honestly, as I don't forsee many situations cropping up where he'd fight one!


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 9:13 pm


Unfortunately, the concern here isn't number of uses. It's actually taking the often only eternal attack a senshi has, not to mention it pushes on the shop precedence where things can't touch levels above them only that same level or lower. I understand he's Envy and would pick on the shinier thing. However, also keep in mind, uses of lower attacks also often affects the higher attacks and drains energy of those using them in which would also actually determine if they could their Eternal attack or if they were stuck using lower level attacks.

As far as the visual effect in the first two, maybe instead of glowing for the first two, they're surrounded by green sparkles or something visually similar? This should differentiate the attacks visually enough that it shouldn't step on greed's toes.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:18 am


LP


I've set it to "up to Patroclus's level"; is that acceptable? I'd prefer not to lock it based on the rank of the attack, since that would render his basic and super attacks accessible but all but useless at Eternal, if he's facing an equal-ranked Senshi foe, and I feel it's fair for an Eternal to be able to shut down another Eternal's attack?


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 7:41 pm


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The way you have it set up, he could steal technically five external's magic and still have his own to use. Which isn't really a fair trade off if it's a 5:1; the magic needs to be a 1:1 ratio.

So if you want him to be able to shut down an eternal's magic there's two ways you could do this, the first is you could flop the attacks and make what is currently his eternal attack, his basic and super and take those which steals the attacks and make them the eternal. So that way he can steal the eternal attacks.

Or you can continue the trend and have each level, take away that level of an attack. Basic takes away basic, super takes away super, and eternal takes away eternal.

I understand what your intent is but the way it's currently written isn't even playing field for everyone, even if he's an Eternal - using a basic attack at Eternal to take away an Eternal attack, isn't fair when he still has two other uses of the basic attack and two uses of super attack. Because if he's up against a group of five people; he could steal everyone's eternal magic and still have his to use against the people's he's fighting against.
PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:24 pm


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I've stuck it to the level of the attacks. If the only option for him to be able to steal an Eternal attack is for that to be his Eternal, I'd rather not do that, since that means he only has one shot of magic steal or he has nothing but magic steal -- and I like the magic steal but I don't like it that much.

So! I think that should be everything.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 9:01 pm


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