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thisshitisoldandgottago

PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 12:18 pm


Er, hi everyone... Yea, haven't been here in a long time. >_> I feel kind of ashamed, asking for help when I haven't been giving it in return, but eh. I don't know where to go anymore. @_@;;

Bet I wasn't missed much, eh? xd

Here is my beef:

One of my best friends is everything I love in a friend--she's honest, and caring, and lots of fun to be around. But one thing about her drives me nuts: the fact that she never sticks up for herself and she never takes compliments, because she thinks they'll go to her head and she'll become conceited. We're both artists so I understand being self-critical of your work to get yourself better. But she's self-critical to a point where she thinks EVERYTHING she does is bad, which I assure you all is not in the least bit true, as she's done some beautiful work.

She thinks I am a better artist than she is. I don't want to sound like a concieted p***k, my style is a bit more refined and polished than hers, and the detail and anatomy of my characters. I love her work, though--it's not bad at all, but she thinks it is compared to mine and our other friend, which also draws and is a decent artist, too.

Then when I try to encourage her, she just kind of pushes it to the side.

And... she never sticks up for herself. She's Roman Catholic, gone to church for her whole life, knows a helluva lot about the Christian religion. So you can imagine how pissed she'd get when this ******** b***h (AKA my ex boyfriend) starts lecturing her about the evils of Catholicism when he's: 1) Never gone to church, 2) Thinks he knows everything about Christianity because he's read the Bible, 3) Claims to be part Satanist. What the ******** on that last part. I told her to tell him off if he pisses her off about it anymore, but she says she hates being nasty to people and that she's always used to being the doormat, etc.

I can't stand seeing assholes tell her she's a "fat b***h" and get away with it or be openly rude to her and get nothing in return. I want to punch them in the face when they do that but she doesn't want me fighting her battles for her. Like this psuedo-goth kid, who claims to wear black leather "Because he's poor." What the ********. At lunch, he says, "Gimme your muffin." She of course says no, because the guy's an a*****e. He walks away and says under his breath, "Fat b***h." My friend's extremely body-conscious because she is overweight, but is working on healthy dieting.

I can't just stand around and watch it happen, and it kills me to see her berate herself about every ********' thing. How do I boost her self-esteem, and how do I nicely tell her to grow a backbone and start sticking up for herself? Argh.
PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 9:06 pm


I guess for the compliments thing, you should just compliment her when you see fit. I don't really know how to get her to accept them; that is probably something she has to see for herself (that she deserves them). Maybe you could get other people to compliment her art? A lot of people *coughmecough* have very little artistic talent. Or maybe you could just point out specific parts of her work that are good (if she does good shading in a certain piece, or if you like an expression or something).

And I remember you. I *think* you posted about taking the SAT before, but forgive me if my memory is not perfect.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 11:19 am


As AraTeran said, give compliments when you see fit. Not over the top compliments but something small. Chances are she'll be able to take a small compliment better. Don't give them to often either. Mabye one small every two days or so.
Also when it comes to sticking up for herself - do you know if she's happy walking away? Mabye she would just prefer to avoid conflict. She does sound like a nice girl, it would be ashame to ruin that. You could tell her just to tell them to shut up or something. Or do it for her for a while.
PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 4:56 pm


Yea, I did. XD;;

I try to give her little compliments... and she won't freakin' take any! gonk No matter what I say, she still thinks everything sucks. >.<

She's not happy walking away; she writes in a sort of LiveJournal so I see how these types of comments about her weight and her religion bother her, but she hates confrontation. D: She won't tell anyone to shut up. I kind of think she's too nice for her own good.

Although if I ever hear anyone else tell her these things I WILL tell them to shut up for her.

Thanks for your advice, guys.

thisshitisoldandgottago


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 4:56 pm


Unfortunately, there's very little you can actually do. A personal change like self-esteem must be driven internally, not by a friend who cares deeply. She'll have to make that choice in order for it to be truly meaningful.

Your concern and friendship is duly noted.
PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 2:54 pm


First off >.> let me say.. XD you almost described my gf lol she is like that though she's not overwhait (no harm intended sorry) but my gf and i are anti-social XD but she practacly rejects eeverythime i call her beautifull wich she is and smart and she's a very good artist too and what not but yea >.> i will make her learn XD

Secondly for what Soleq said yes there is very little you can do. Her opinions are her's and you don't whant to become what you hate most by going behind her back and like beathing the crap out of those people. >.> though i would apreciate it if you would kick there butt's >.>'' but that's a different story. but the point of the matter is... she has to realize this problem by her self... life will teach her this and when she find it, it will hurt >.< but she will get up and be stronger afterwards

Three o.o man she might be an up coming.. what's his name.. i don't remember even though we were talking about him in class but basacly this guy made BEAUTIFULL work's of art during the Enlightenment era of art history (class i'm taking in collage) and basacly this guy thought that his art was crap, his art copared to the other elighten ment artists... like monet and what not and yet his work were allot better then everyone else. i belive he is the one that started the Pointalism.. o.o with the one witih people on the lake and what not but yea he was so like your friend that he never in all his life ever called one of his projects compleated. But his art is simply magnifisent to tell you the truth. truly inspiering

And lastly four -bows- i congratulate you for being such a good friend to her... there's very little people like you and i wish there were more but sad to say in this day in age allot more people are cocerned about them self then others but you, you are one devoted friend ^_^ i give you an A+

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