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Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 11:47 pm
So back when I was in high school, I was always being made fun of by everyone and friends, that they were waiting for me to turn gay. It was then that I was still confused at the time and I didn't want to outright say it, so instead I was called a homophobe. Low and behold when college rolls around, I'm happy that I can say with SOME confidence that I'm gay. Now I only say this because the only people I came out to were friends, ironically; none of my family members know anything, hopefully. When I came out to them, they were surprised, due to the fact they were so stuck on the idea of calling me out as a homophobe for the longest time. So now, I'm on that point in my life where I'm going to be moving away to another relative or another family friend's house to go to university/ have a job / etc. When it's time to move in, I don't want them to try to figure out or find out about me being gay. The thing is, I don't want family or people close to our family to know anything just yet, as I'm still on the fence of coming out to them. It's just hard to see that one side of the family could sort of be alright with it, but the other side of my family would be entirely against it. I don't want to be hated or looked at differently; it's so ******** weird just talking about it going south. I don't know if I can handle it. And because of this fear, I have skipped out on asking a really cute and fun guy out. I feel ignorant and cowardly and it's kinda' hard for me to say in words what I mean, but if anything, I'm more afraid of disapproval.
With that said, I have to come out by the end of July, and idk if I can do that, or how I can do that.
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Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 8:29 am
It can definitely be scary to come out to people, especially family members. But as scary as it is, I think continuing to hide it and/or lie about it is usually worse. Having to second-guess everything you do or say, constantly worrying about covering your tracks, having to always be putting on a performance around those closest to you...it's miserable, and most of the time, I think keeping up that facade is actually more miserable than dealing with people reacting badly to the news that you're gay. When you're hiding it, there's always this sense of impending doom about what will happen when you either finally do choose to come out, or when you finally screw up and people find out about it (whichever comes first). At least once you come out, you no longer have to live in fear of the unknown. Even if people don't handle it well at first, it's usually still pretty liberating just to know you don't have to live in fear of that moment anymore, and that you and your loved ones are dealing with the truth. And most of the time, even if people aren't thrilled about it at first, they'll get over it eventually. These are people who love you and care about you, and learning that you're gay probably isn't going to change any of that.
I come from a very religious, socially conservative family, and to say that my parents (especially my mother) were displeased to find out I was gay would be the understatement of the century. My mother was devastated, and for a while she wanted nothing to do with me, but you know what? She got over it. It took some time and effort on both our parts, but at the end of the day, I'm still her baby and she still wants to see me happy, and even if she may not totally approve of some of the things that make me happy, she was ultimately able to move past that.
My point is, the way my parents reacted was pretty much a worst case scenario, and I was still infinitely happier after telling them the truth, and I still came out of the experience with a loving, supportive family. I don't know anything about your family, but I don't think I've ever known anyone who regretted coming out to their family. Even in cases where it doesn't go well, most people will tell you that dealing with the truth almost always feels better than continuing to hide in the shadows. smile
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Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 8:41 am
SinfulGuillotine It can definitely be scary to come out to people, especially family members. But as scary as it is, I think continuing to hide it and/or lie about it is usually worse. Having to second-guess everything you do or say, constantly worrying about covering your tracks, having to always be putting on a performance around those closest to you...it's miserable, and most of the time, I think keeping up that facade is actually more miserable than dealing with people reacting badly to the news that you're gay. When you're hiding it, there's always this sense of impending doom about what will happen when you either finally do choose to come out, or when you finally screw up and people find out about it (whichever comes first). At least once you come out, you no longer have to live in fear of the unknown. Even if people don't handle it well at first, it's usually still pretty liberating just to know you don't have to live in fear of that moment anymore, and that you and your loved ones are dealing with the truth. And most of the time, even if people aren't thrilled about it at first, they'll get over it eventually. These are people who love you and care about you, and learning that you're gay probably isn't going to change any of that. I come from a very religious, socially conservative family, and to say that my parents (especially my mother) were displeased to find out I was gay would be the understatement of the century. My mother was devastated, and for a while she wanted nothing to do with me, but you know what? She got over it. It took some time and effort on both our parts, but at the end of the day, I'm still her baby and she still wants to see me happy, and even if she may not totally approve of some of the things that make me happy, she was ultimately able to move past that. My point is, the way my parents reacted was pretty much a worst case scenario, and I was still infinitely happier after telling them the truth, and I still came out of the experience with a loving, supportive family. I don't know anything about your family, but I don't think I've ever known anyone who regretted coming out to their family. Even in cases where it doesn't go well, most people will tell you that dealing with the truth almost always feels better than continuing to hide in the shadows. smile True valid points. But this isn't something that I want to rush, and if anything, I want my dad and his side of the family to know first, and idk what I should do with my mom. She's the best, but very religious, and I don't want to be a further disappointment to her than I am now. I've done some things I'm not proud of, and I don't want our relationship to crumble. Coming from a conservative Catholic family, her side of the family are going to freak out and NEVER want me near them. I only know this since every time they do talk about LGBT it makes me cringe how much their hatred runs deep, and as it is it's hard for someone like me to take risks. It's already enough that I have no say in what goes on in my life anymore, and me telling them that I'm gay is just going to make me a laughing stock. I'll definitely come out to my dad and his side of the family, but everyone else is just bigoted by their own views.
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Posted: Thu May 14, 2015 7:16 am
My family is conservative and Catholic, and my partner and I go to visit them every year for Christmas. xd
Of course, every family is different, but I guess my point is, you might be surprised at what your family is willing to accept (or at least look past) in order to have a relationship with you.
It sounds like you're the most worried about your extended family on your mum's side. Are you very close with them, and/or do you see them often? I never had an especially close relationship with any family members outside of my parents and my siblings; grandparents, second cousins, etc. were mostly people I talked to on the telephone on Christmas, and maybe my birthday, and that's about it. I only met them in person a few times, so they were sort of a non-issue for me when I came out. My point is, it's okay if you want to tell some family members and not others, or if you want to tell one side of the family before another. So long as you're confident the people you do tell will respect that, and they won't go and tell the rest of the family behind your back, I think that's fine.
Are your parents still married? If not, then I think telling Mum and Dad separately is fine. If they are still married (and living together and such), that might make it a little more complicated to tell them separately.
Ultimately, you know your family best, and you're also the one who has to live with them, so all this has to be your choice. I usually lean towards encouraging people to come out sooner rather than later, because I think the "heterosexual facade" tends to get more complicated and involved the longer it goes on, but of course ultimately, it has to be your call. Just don't let it get to the point of getting a girlfriend or, God forbid, marrying some poor girl just to please your family, because that would be incredibly unfair to the girl (and you).
Are you still living at home? If so, and if you think that coming out might potentially get you kicked out and stuck with no place to live, then just practically speaking, it'd probably be better to wait until you have a place of your own. Or, at the very least, wait until you've lined up a place to stay with a friend or something, just in case things don't go well.
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Posted: Thu May 14, 2015 10:17 pm
i came out in grade 8 against the wishes of my parents And im sorry to hear ;m;
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Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 9:33 am
Some parents will surprise you. Your mother, I highly doubt. Don't get me wrong, but I would have to say that after you come out to your dad, get his opinion on coming out to anyone else in the family. Dads often can point you away from danger, especially when it is family related.
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Posted: Wed May 20, 2015 6:26 pm
came out to my mom today she wasn't happy...
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Posted: Thu May 21, 2015 2:50 am
Dai Eden came out to my mom today she wasn't happy... You are not alone on that topic. My dad spent two months refusing to even look at me.
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Posted: Thu May 21, 2015 7:41 am
Dai Eden came out to my mom today she wasn't happy... I'm sorry it didn't go well. Give her time. I think it's important for us, as the children of very religious people, to try and understand as best we can why it's potentially so upsetting for them to hear that their child is gay. You don't have to agree with it, but I think it's beneficial to try to understand it, at least. Hell is very real to these people, and I think a fear of hell and a fear of sin (since sin sends one to hell) is a very basic part of traditional Christians' daily existence. They truly believe that if you don't adhere to a certain standard of beliefs and behaviour, you'll be cast from Gods grace forever and suffer for eternity. If that's your Truth with a capital T, it has to be incredibly upsetting to learn that someone you love very deeply is one of those "lost souls" that has strayed from the path you desperately wanted for them. I think it's easy to write off religious parents who are upset about their children's sexuality as just being intolerant bigots (and some of them are intolerant bigots, to be sure), without recognising that it is a legitimately trying experience for them emotionally. It takes time to adjust to new truths. You've already had time to adjust to the truth of you being gay, but that truth is still very new to your mother. Experiencing any sort of rejection (even if it's only temporary or perceived rejection) by one's parents is always a painful experience, and I don't want you to feel like I'm trivialising your side of it. I'm very sorry she didn't take it well, and I know how much it hurts to feel like your own mother is angry or disappointed in you for something you can't control. I've been there. But her difficulty in accepting this likely has nothing to do with how much she loves you, and I think with a little time and effort on both your parts, she may very well be able to come to accept some new truths that make you both happy.
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Posted: Thu May 21, 2015 7:46 am
RyugaHayabusa Dai Eden came out to my mom today she wasn't happy... You are not alone on that topic. My dad spent two months refusing to even look at me. My mum refused to speak to me for four years, and she told many of her friends that I'd died in an auto wreck (when I was really just away at university). She's always been a bit of a drama queen.
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Posted: Thu May 21, 2015 7:52 am
RyugaHayabusa You are not alone on that topic. My dad spent two months refusing to even look at me. I love my mom, and should i have known that our relationship was going to take a negative downhill slope, i don't think i would have come out
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Posted: Thu May 21, 2015 7:55 am
SinfulGuillotine Dai Eden came out to my mom today she wasn't happy... I'm sorry it didn't go well. Give her time. I think it's important for us, as the children of very religious people, to try and understand as best we can why it's potentially so upsetting for them to hear that their child is gay. You don't have to agree with it, but I think it's beneficial to try to understand it, at least. Hell is very real to these people, and I think a fear of hell and a fear of sin (since sin sends one to hell) is a very basic part of traditional Christians' daily existence. They truly believe that if you don't adhere to a certain standard of beliefs and behaviour, you'll be cast from Gods grace forever and suffer for eternity. If that's your Truth with a capital T, it has to be incredibly upsetting to learn that someone you love very deeply is one of those "lost souls" that has strayed from the path you desperately wanted for them. I think it's easy to write off religious parents who are upset about their children's sexuality as just being intolerant bigots (and some of them are intolerant bigots, to be sure), without recognising that it is a legitimately trying experience for them emotionally. It takes time to adjust to new truths. You've already had time to adjust to the truth of you being gay, but that truth is still very new to your mother. Experiencing any sort of rejection (even if it's only temporary or perceived rejection) by one's parents is always a painful experience, and I don't want you to feel like I'm trivialising your side of it. I'm very sorry she didn't take it well, and I know how much it hurts to feel like your own mother is angry or disappointed in you for something you can't control. I've been there. But her difficulty in accepting this likely has nothing to do with how much she loves you, and I think with a little time and effort on both your parts, she may very well be able to come to accept some new truths that make you both happy. i don't think it was so much she was thinking religiously, it was more like she was asking "how do you know" or "why? you've never even had sex with a woman before" it's all unsettling for me and prolly never should have come out to her in the first place...
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Posted: Thu May 21, 2015 8:42 am
Dai Eden SinfulGuillotine Dai Eden came out to my mom today she wasn't happy... I'm sorry it didn't go well. Give her time. I think it's important for us, as the children of very religious people, to try and understand as best we can why it's potentially so upsetting for them to hear that their child is gay. You don't have to agree with it, but I think it's beneficial to try to understand it, at least. Hell is very real to these people, and I think a fear of hell and a fear of sin (since sin sends one to hell) is a very basic part of traditional Christians' daily existence. They truly believe that if you don't adhere to a certain standard of beliefs and behaviour, you'll be cast from Gods grace forever and suffer for eternity. If that's your Truth with a capital T, it has to be incredibly upsetting to learn that someone you love very deeply is one of those "lost souls" that has strayed from the path you desperately wanted for them. I think it's easy to write off religious parents who are upset about their children's sexuality as just being intolerant bigots (and some of them are intolerant bigots, to be sure), without recognising that it is a legitimately trying experience for them emotionally. It takes time to adjust to new truths. You've already had time to adjust to the truth of you being gay, but that truth is still very new to your mother. Experiencing any sort of rejection (even if it's only temporary or perceived rejection) by one's parents is always a painful experience, and I don't want you to feel like I'm trivialising your side of it. I'm very sorry she didn't take it well, and I know how much it hurts to feel like your own mother is angry or disappointed in you for something you can't control. I've been there. But her difficulty in accepting this likely has nothing to do with how much she loves you, and I think with a little time and effort on both your parts, she may very well be able to come to accept some new truths that make you both happy. i don't think it was so much she was thinking religiously, it was more like she was asking "how do you know" or "why? you've never even had sex with a woman before" it's all unsettling for me and prolly never should have come out to her in the first place... Yeah, when I came out, my mum's first reaction was, "You're not gay, it's not like you've even done something with a boy. You're just confused, we can fix this!" Then I told her I'd been shagging a man nearly twice my age for the past two years, and that was the end of that conversation. Well, whether her initial objections were religious or not, it's still probably a bit of a shock to her, and it's going to take some time for her to get over that knee-jerk surprise and denial. I know it's rough and uncomfortable, and to be honest, it's likely to be rough and uncomfortable for a little while, but things have a way of working themselves out in the end. You clearly love her very much, and I'm sure she loves you, and as cheesy as it sounds, that love will see you both through this awkward unpleasantness.
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Posted: Thu May 21, 2015 8:44 am
SinfulGuillotine Dai Eden SinfulGuillotine Dai Eden came out to my mom today she wasn't happy... I'm sorry it didn't go well. Give her time. I think it's important for us, as the children of very religious people, to try and understand as best we can why it's potentially so upsetting for them to hear that their child is gay. You don't have to agree with it, but I think it's beneficial to try to understand it, at least. Hell is very real to these people, and I think a fear of hell and a fear of sin (since sin sends one to hell) is a very basic part of traditional Christians' daily existence. They truly believe that if you don't adhere to a certain standard of beliefs and behaviour, you'll be cast from Gods grace forever and suffer for eternity. If that's your Truth with a capital T, it has to be incredibly upsetting to learn that someone you love very deeply is one of those "lost souls" that has strayed from the path you desperately wanted for them. I think it's easy to write off religious parents who are upset about their children's sexuality as just being intolerant bigots (and some of them are intolerant bigots, to be sure), without recognising that it is a legitimately trying experience for them emotionally. It takes time to adjust to new truths. You've already had time to adjust to the truth of you being gay, but that truth is still very new to your mother. Experiencing any sort of rejection (even if it's only temporary or perceived rejection) by one's parents is always a painful experience, and I don't want you to feel like I'm trivialising your side of it. I'm very sorry she didn't take it well, and I know how much it hurts to feel like your own mother is angry or disappointed in you for something you can't control. I've been there. But her difficulty in accepting this likely has nothing to do with how much she loves you, and I think with a little time and effort on both your parts, she may very well be able to come to accept some new truths that make you both happy. i don't think it was so much she was thinking religiously, it was more like she was asking "how do you know" or "why? you've never even had sex with a woman before" it's all unsettling for me and prolly never should have come out to her in the first place... Yeah, when I came out, my mum's first reaction was, "You're not gay, it's not like you've even done something with a boy. You're just confused, we can fix this!" Then I told her I'd been shagging a man nearly twice my age for the past two years, and that was the end of that conversation. Well, whether her initial objections were religious or not, it's still probably a bit of a shock to her, and it's going to take some time for her to get over that knee-jerk surprise and denial. I know it's rough and uncomfortable, and to be honest, it's likely to be rough and uncomfortable for a little while, but things have a way of working themselves out in the end. You clearly love her very much, and I'm sure she loves you, and as cheesy as it sounds, that love will see you both through this awkward unpleasantness. I hope so.
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Posted: Thu May 21, 2015 8:45 am
By the way, totally unrelated, but I love your current avatar.
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