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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 6:04 pm


So where i live public displays of affection is a no no for gay couples, is it like that for anyone else here. And for those of you in countries where same sex relationships are legal. Do you guys feel awkward with public display of affection?
PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 6:20 am


Same-sex unions have been legal here for a while (although they've only been called "marriage" somewhat recently, within the past couple years). I live in a big city, so the overall attitude tends to be pretty progressive and accepting. There's always going to be the odd douchebag here and there, but that's the case anywhere. In my experience, when people (at least strangers) are bothered by it, they tend to express it in the form of disapproving glances rather than outright hostility. I've only had one experience where anyone was outright violent, and that was in the city where I grew up, which I think in general is actually more generally accepting than where I live now.

Mind you, I'm not a big fan of PDA in general. Hand-holding, arm-linking, pecks, etc. are fine, but much more than that comes off as being a little rude and immature in my eyes, at least in most public settings. I don't care what sex or gender you or your partner are, if your hand is down their trousers, please go somewhere a little more private.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 6:10 pm


I'm in the US, and even though things have gotten progressively better I don't feel safe expressing PDA. Even when I was in Canada I didn't feel safe, but probably because it was more of small city. I'm very grateful that I haven't personally experienced gay bashing, and I guess I'm afraid that if I open myself up I will.
PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 6:31 am


I'm in England and although it's legal to show affection, I'm not really into showing affection in public too much. The occasional kiss and hug is fine, but being cute and attached to each other, that makes me uncomfortable.

Besides, it may be legal, but people still give you those stares and grumbles.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 7:28 am


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I'm in the US, and even though things have gotten progressively better I don't feel safe expressing PDA. Even when I was in Canada I didn't feel safe, but probably because it was more of small city. I'm very grateful that I haven't personally experienced gay bashing, and I guess I'm afraid that if I open myself up I will.
It's not so bad when you sustain an amnesia-inducing concussion in the process. xd I still don't remember hardly anything about being attacked, and it was over ten years ago. I remember bits and pieces shortly before and after it happened, but to this day I have almost no memory of the attack itself. I feel like I got off pretty easy in that regard.
PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 7:35 am


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I'm in England and although it's legal to show affection, I'm not really into showing affection in public too much. The occasional kiss and hug is fine, but being cute and attached to each other, that makes me uncomfortable.

Besides, it may be legal, but people still give you those stares and grumbles.
Are there any places (in the western world, at least) where it's explicitly illegal for same-sex couples to show affection in public? There are certainly places where it wouldn't go over too well with the general public, but it's not as if you could actually get arrested for it...right? I guess homosexuality is still an arrest-able offence in some Arab countries (in some of those places, I think it may still be a capital crime), but surely that's not the case in North America and western Europe (and Australia, New Zealand, and whatever other heavily westernised places I'm not mentioning).

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 8:27 am


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I'm in England and although it's legal to show affection, I'm not really into showing affection in public too much. The occasional kiss and hug is fine, but being cute and attached to each other, that makes me uncomfortable.

Besides, it may be legal, but people still give you those stares and grumbles.
Are there any places (in the western world, at least) where it's explicitly illegal for same-sex couples to show affection in public? There are certainly places where it wouldn't go over too well with the general public, but it's not as if you could actually get arrested for it...right? I guess homosexuality is still an arrest-able offence in some Arab countries (in some of those places, I think it may still be a capital crime), but surely that's not the case in North America and western Europe (and Australia, New Zealand, and whatever other heavily westernised places I'm not mentioning).


I think in Russia it might be? It's apparently wrong to even tell kids that gay people exist, but I have no source material to back that up though
PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 9:12 am


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I'm in England and although it's legal to show affection, I'm not really into showing affection in public too much. The occasional kiss and hug is fine, but being cute and attached to each other, that makes me uncomfortable.

Besides, it may be legal, but people still give you those stares and grumbles.
Are there any places (in the western world, at least) where it's explicitly illegal for same-sex couples to show affection in public? There are certainly places where it wouldn't go over too well with the general public, but it's not as if you could actually get arrested for it...right? I guess homosexuality is still an arrest-able offence in some Arab countries (in some of those places, I think it may still be a capital crime), but surely that's not the case in North America and western Europe (and Australia, New Zealand, and whatever other heavily westernised places I'm not mentioning).


I think in Russia it might be? It's apparently wrong to even tell kids that gay people exist, but I have no source material to back that up though
Well, I wouldn't exactly consider Russia as being part of the heavily westernised world. They kind of are sometimes, but it seems like there's always some kind of crazy maniac in a position of political power keeping the country isolated from the rest of European society. But you're certainly correct that Russia is decidedly not gay-friendly.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 7:22 am


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I'm in the US, and even though things have gotten progressively better I don't feel safe expressing PDA. Even when I was in Canada I didn't feel safe, but probably because it was more of small city. I'm very grateful that I haven't personally experienced gay bashing, and I guess I'm afraid that if I open myself up I will.
It's not so bad when you sustain an amnesia-inducing concussion in the process. xd I still don't remember hardly anything about being attacked, and it was over ten years ago. I remember bits and pieces shortly before and after it happened, but to this day I have almost no memory of the attack itself. I feel like I got off pretty easy in that regard.


My condolences, but at least you seemed to have coped with it well. This is the reason why I refuse to demonstrated PDA in a non-gay area. If I'm at a gay club then I'll let loose, but even walking down the gay street in my City I don't feel safe doing it. It helps that I'm a hefty guy, and I have Resting b***h Face Syndrome so no one's going to mess with me lol. Still, even if there are people who say I'm being a coward and hiding my sexuality I'm doing it to protect myself and more importantly my husband.
PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 7:36 am


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I'm in the US, and even though things have gotten progressively better I don't feel safe expressing PDA. Even when I was in Canada I didn't feel safe, but probably because it was more of small city. I'm very grateful that I haven't personally experienced gay bashing, and I guess I'm afraid that if I open myself up I will.
It's not so bad when you sustain an amnesia-inducing concussion in the process. xd I still don't remember hardly anything about being attacked, and it was over ten years ago. I remember bits and pieces shortly before and after it happened, but to this day I have almost no memory of the attack itself. I feel like I got off pretty easy in that regard.


My condolences, but at least you seemed to have coped with it well. This is the reason why I refuse to demonstrated PDA in a non-gay area. If I'm at a gay club then I'll let loose, but even walking down the gay street in my City I don't feel safe doing it. It helps that I'm a hefty guy, and I have Resting b***h Face Syndrome so no one's going to mess with me lol. Still, even if there are people who say I'm being a coward and hiding my sexuality I'm doing it to protect myself and more importantly my husband.
That's part of what so weird about it: it happened in a pretty progressive metropolitan city. Ten years ago, but still, it was an unusual occurrence in that area. Just goes to show that douchebags live everywhere. I also don't think it was even the direct result of any explicit PDA...I guess I can't say for sure since I don't really remember, but it would have been out-of-character for my partner and I, and he's never mentioned it in his re-telling of the event. It was probably just apparent that we were together.

Sometimes I feel like it should have affected me more. You hear stories about people who were drugged and date-raped (who know they were raped but don't have any memory of the event itself) being really distressed over the fact that they can't remember this super traumatic event, but...I dunno, I've always been pretty content not remembering the weird s**t people have done to me while I've been unconscious, haha. In fact, I'd almost consider it a courtesy for someone to drug me (or barring that, bash me over the head) if they're going to do harm to me. xd

...okay, I'm going to stop that train of thought before I end up saying something really offensive. Point is, people react to trauma differently, and once the physical injuries from the attack healed, I can't say that it continued to affect my life much at all. I'm sure I was terrified when it was actually happening, but as far as my memory goes, I had a fun night out with my partner, blacked out, and woke up in hospital, which makes it not so very different from a run-of-the-mill New Year's Eve for me. lol

EDIT: I wouldn't say you're being a coward for not engaging in PDA. It's unfortunate that it's even an issue for queer people to begin with, but it's still a reality that expressing public affection to a same-sex partner can incite some people to violence. Being aware of that doesn't make you a coward, it just makes you safety-conscious. And as you said, it wouldn't just be your own safety you'd be potentially jeopardising, but that of your partner as well. Besides, excessive PDA is a little rude in my book, regardless of who's doing it.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 11:19 pm


I've lived in a few different big cities (San Francisco, New York City, Portland OR), and in my experience it's acceptable there, although I believe you will still get weird looks and unnecessary attention until older generations start becoming more accepting or start dying off. However, when I lived in San Francisco I could walk around in a tutu with a jock strap holding hands with two men and not even get a second glance depending on the neighborhood. I never had issues with PDA in Portland and New York City either, but I seriously doubt I could get away with the things that I could get away with in SF, and even in SF there will be those who will challenge and chastise you over something we see as a basic right. When I lived in Ketchikan Alaska however, I was very cautious. I made out with a guy once in the movie theatre, and thats about the most I would be willing to try there. It's a small town on an island with a population of less than 10,000 on the entire island, and most are conservative.

The subject of gay PDA is a bit of an important one to me. It's one of those basic things that we should be able to do without fear, just like opposite sex couples can, and to me it's something we sometimes have to be very brave to do. I support any same sex PDA (at least PG rated), and think that those of us brave enough to do it are blazing the trail for future generations. It's still a fight that needs to be fought; just keep yourselves safe. Protect yourselves, because unfortunately right now we have to, no matter where we are.
PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 10:31 am


My area is cool with it but I personally don't like any kind of PDA from anyone past the point of basic hand holding, hugs, short cheek kiss or whatever...I'm just bothered by social snogging in general xD

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 6:29 pm


Around here, you might get a few disapproving glances, but there isn't any overt hostility. Granted, there is more than there would be for an opposite sex couple, but this city isn't perfect.

I'm in Milwaukee, in a pretty progressive area. A lot of the people here are the type who talk about equality, but go "Ew" if they see two guys kissing....
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