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 Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 10:22 am
I don't want to participate in eating the Thanksgiving meal because I know it's unhealthy.
What are some healthy and/or vegetarian/vegan options to replace the traditional buttery, cheesy, meaty, starchy, diabetic & heart attacking dishes we normally see on a Thanksgiving & Christmas dinner table?
Can we only have a healthy Thanksgiving if everyone is health-conscious? Are there meals even a conservative fatty can agree to? The rest of my family is fat and traditional about it, y'all. They are the cast of Soul Food, where Big Mama suffers from diabetes and heart disease with all the lard and starch, sugar and meat they consume every Sunday, and when she dies, they decide to cook the same damn things to honor her "tradition" of killing everyone slowly with their addicted taste buds.
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Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 11:27 am
Im honestly not sure
what healthy options are available sweatdrop
In my lifetime,
its not something anyone was
ever concerned about.
(I am currently very chubby) xd
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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 10:56 am
Ah, I wish I had seen this sooner. With Christmas and more fatty food coming up, I guess this is going to still be relevant, haha. This year I actually got 2 meat eaters to have a vegetarian Thanksgiving. xD Pete's mom was gonna have to work, so I offered to cook everything. When the day came she ended up off work. I kept thinking they would cook meat. She said how they had sliced turkey they could eat. But I had cooked so much food they never got around to it. xD Haha! :3 I made vegan stuffing which was actually not great. But it was good when I added a bit of butter and pepper. Not a lot of butter, just a bit. I made mashed potatoes and did the same thing, minimal butter. I had whole wheat rolls, organic cranberry sauce, homemade pumpkin pie. Pete made green bean casserole. I think it was all pretty healthy stuff. If you have a Whole Foods store or something similar, it's worth paying more at least for special dinners by shopping there. So much non-gmo and organic stuff. It's amazing. I totally know where you are coming from with the family tradition crap. My family is mostly all overweight and they love their meat. Even when I did eat meat I didn't get why we needed turkey and ham for our dinners. Like one animal wasn't enough. Then all the pies.. so many pies. And you can't help but want to have some of all the different ones. Pumpkin, cherry, coconut, even cheesecake. I have a relatively small family, so why all the damn dessert? xD I feel like a black sheep all the time, and this is one of those reasons. My family never seemed to care about being healthy. I remember how my gma used to eat extra butter popcorn and coca cola for dinner EVERY SINGLE NIGHT. Then she wonders why she is unhealthy. xD
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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 3:16 pm
Christmas is in summer here so we usually have a selection of salads with the usual turkey, ham, chicken, roast vegetables, bread etc. We also have bowls of fresh fruit (cherries and apricots) and nuts on the tables. In the past I have brought a vegetarian roast but I don't know know if I will bother this year. I might just save room for desserts (pudding and pavlova mmmmmmm). xp Anyways... having a healthy diet is important to me but... is spending one day a year enjoying family, friends and fatty foods such a terrible thing? I'd prefer just having a good time catching up with my family than worrying about a little unhealthy food.... but that is just my opinion. whee I would LOVE some vegetarian recipes though! The vegetarian roast that I buy is delicious but it is small and rather expensive. It is ok for the smaller Christmas gathering on my Mums side of the family (particularly because they are close minded to anything new) but for the big Christmas feast with my Dads family I don't want to be rude and selfish. I really need to bring enough to add to the table to share with anyone who wants to try.
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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 3:22 pm
Oooh I just remembered vegweb has a 'Holiday' section. Perhaps there is something there....
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Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 7:56 am
Esselean Anyways... having a healthy diet is important to me but... is spending one day a year enjoying family, friends and fatty foods such a terrible thing? I'd prefer just having a good time catching up with my family than worrying about a little unhealthy food.... but that is just my opinion. whee Every year I go home and eat like I don't care, I get sick. I have a sensitive skin condition that flares up and makes me walk funny from avoiding the pain, so for me, yes it is a terrible thing. This year, I had a headache for a week and two spots that flared up. I'm done. I will fast over the holidays before I eat like them ever again. And something that probably pushes the flare-ups along is seeing my parents and grandparents fall apart more and more every year, seeing the cocktail of pills they have to take every day, and knowing that it can be undone if they just ate consciously instead of the way they do. I want to kidnap them onto a healthy cruise where they can only eat what healthy options I give them, give them several workout options and various relaxation methods so they can see how this kind of lifestyle can change their bodies. My parents are not old enough to be that decrepit.
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Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 3:55 pm
Different...Very. Every year I go home and eat like I don't care, I get sick. I have a sensitive skin condition that flares up and makes me walk funny from avoiding the pain, so for me, yes it is a terrible thing. This year, I had a headache for a week and two spots that flared up. I'm done. I will fast over the holidays before I eat like them ever again. And something that probably pushes the flare-ups along is seeing my parents and grandparents fall apart more and more every year, seeing the cocktail of pills they have to take every day, and knowing that it can be undone if they just ate consciously instead of the way they do. I want to kidnap them onto a healthy cruise where they can only eat what healthy options I give them, give them several workout options and various relaxation methods so they can see how this kind of lifestyle can change their bodies. My parents are not old enough to be that decrepit. Aww that's no good. Do you know what causes the flare ups? Is it mainly sugar, fats, chemicals, stress? For me it's the sugar that makes me break out. I get big pimples all over my face, neck, upper back, shoulders, chest and through my hair (and big scabs later 'cause I can't leave them alone) Could you eat mainly veg and just have a little of the other stuff? As to the whole unhealthy family thing... I totally understand. My stepmother is morbidly obese and has a whole range of medical problems which are all interrelated with her weight/diet. My dad is going down the same road and I worry about other family members as well. Sometimes I want to just say "Alright, I'm moving in and cooking all your meals!" I just have to force myself to remember that you can't control other people. As frustrating as it is to see others suffering from bad health it is best to just let it go. It's their life, their choices and you can't change that. sweatdrop P.S. I hope I didn't seem rude earlier. As someone who has has suffered from eating disorders in the past I worry about people becoming 'too healthy' (becoming so obsessed with health that it actually becomes detrimental to their health) There is also the mental side of health... Stressing over each morsel of food is not good for you either.
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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 3:54 pm
Esselean Different...Very. Every year I go home and eat like I don't care, I get sick. I have a sensitive skin condition that flares up and makes me walk funny from avoiding the pain, so for me, yes it is a terrible thing. This year, I had a headache for a week and two spots that flared up. I'm done. I will fast over the holidays before I eat like them ever again. And something that probably pushes the flare-ups along is seeing my parents and grandparents fall apart more and more every year, seeing the cocktail of pills they have to take every day, and knowing that it can be undone if they just ate consciously instead of the way they do. I want to kidnap them onto a healthy cruise where they can only eat what healthy options I give them, give them several workout options and various relaxation methods so they can see how this kind of lifestyle can change their bodies. My parents are not old enough to be that decrepit. Aww that's no good. Do you know what causes the flare ups? Is it mainly sugar, fats, chemicals, stress? For me it's the sugar that makes me break out. I get big pimples all over my face, neck, upper back, shoulders, chest and through my hair (and big scabs later 'cause I can't leave them alone) Could you eat mainly veg and just have a little of the other stuff? As to the whole unhealthy family thing... I totally understand. My stepmother is morbidly obese and has a whole range of medical problems which are all interrelated with her weight/diet. My dad is going down the same road and I worry about other family members as well. Sometimes I want to just say "Alright, I'm moving in and cooking all your meals!" I just have to force myself to remember that you can't control other people. As frustrating as it is to see others suffering from bad health it is best to just let it go. It's their life, their choices and you can't change that. sweatdrop P.S. I hope I didn't seem rude earlier. As someone who has has suffered from eating disorders in the past I worry about people becoming 'too healthy' (becoming so obsessed with health that it actually becomes detrimental to their health) There is also the mental side of health... Stressing over each morsel of food is not good for you either. No, no you're fine. And I didn't mean to come off too defensive if I did. It's just so frustrating!! I know stress is one factor, but I don't know what else does it. Papa John's pizzas--meat or not--break me out (and I used to love that brand), but homemade, local restauraunt pizzas and Mellow Mushroom pizzas do not. Arby's Brisket sandwich appeared to break me out, but I had been eating poorly that entire week. Too much sugar gives me headaches and too much chocolate breaks my face out. What frustrates me most about my parents' poor health is that looking down the road, I feel I'll be held responsible for taking care of them when they have to get their legs amputated or something although I've been warning them about making better decisions, because children are supposed to take care of their old parents. I don't mind taking care of old people, but fat people are another story for me. [OVERHONESTY ALERT; prepare to be offended] I am quite prejudiced against fat people. I don't know how to change this exactly. I'm practicing compassion meditation and yoga and reading and writing mantras about loving everyone, but whenever I see a fat person eating, bad thoughts come to mind. Whenever I see someone eating fast food in the car, I judge them, which is totally awful because I even judge myself any rare time I do it. I don't even know where it comes from because my mom has been overweight ever since she had me. It may be her and my obese stepdad's constant drilling of ensuring I don't get fat, I don't know. I know in my mind that everyone has a story that justifies why their life is the way it is, but something about fat people blinds me to that. I can't wrap my mind around it being ok to be fat or it being impossible to be healthy and look more the part. Screw your thyroid problem or your self-esteem issues or your teenage injury or the FDA and corporations creating an environment for breeding obesity. It's your fault, I blame you and look down upon you. I feel like my subconscious is one of those people who would be outside waving a sign that says "God hates fatties" one day, because I try to be an ever-tolerant person, honest.
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Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 5:18 pm
Different...Very. No, no you're fine. And I didn't mean to come off too defensive if I did. It's just so frustrating!! I know stress is one factor, but I don't know what else does it. Papa John's pizzas--meat or not--break me out (and I used to love that brand), but homemade, local restauraunt pizzas and Mellow Mushroom pizzas do not. Arby's Brisket sandwich appeared to break me out, but I had been eating poorly that entire week. Too much sugar gives me headaches and too much chocolate breaks my face out. What frustrates me most about my parents' poor health is that looking down the road, I feel I'll be held responsible for taking care of them when they have to get their legs amputated or something although I've been warning them about making better decisions, because children are supposed to take care of their old parents. I don't mind taking care of old people, but fat people are another story for me. [OVERHONESTY ALERT; prepare to be offended] I am quite prejudiced against fat people. I don't know how to change this exactly. I'm practicing compassion meditation and yoga and reading and writing mantras about loving everyone, but whenever I see a fat person eating, bad thoughts come to mind. Whenever I see someone eating fast food in the car, I judge them, which is totally awful because I even judge myself any rare time I do it. I don't even know where it comes from because my mom has been overweight ever since she had me. It may be her and my obese stepdad's constant drilling of ensuring I don't get fat, I don't know. I know in my mind that everyone has a story that justifies why their life is the way it is, but something about fat people blinds me to that. I can't wrap my mind around it being ok to be fat or it being impossible to be healthy and look more the part. Screw your thyroid problem or your self-esteem issues or your teenage injury or the FDA and corporations creating an environment for breeding obesity. It's your fault, I blame you and look down upon you. I feel like my subconscious is one of those people who would be outside waving a sign that says "God hates fatties" one day, because I try to be an ever-tolerant person, honest. I understand. When you are hard on yourself or stressed and upset it is hard to be forgiving of others and easy to judge them harshly. Meditation is great! I love how it helps you calm, control and focus your mind so you can gain insight and understanding rather than just reacting to situations or getting caught in a viscous cycle of the same old thoughts. Lately I have been trying to get back into the habit of daily meditation. It's the best thing in the world! By the way, I am sorry for such a late reply! I got really rundown with Christmas stress, PMS, etc.
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