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Glitoris

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 9:11 pm


Hello, there. I want to rant a little bit. I'm not sure how long this post is going to be, so if it turns into a wall of text, I'm very sorry.

A little over six months ago, my dad left and filed for divorce against my mom. I can't say I'm surprised, because they fought a lot. My mom wanted to go to counseling, and my dad didn't. I understand this is not why my parents are getting a divorce (which is what my father is claiming I am saying, but I'll get to that later).

My parents argued a lot. My mom would remain calm and my dad would lose his s**t. He'd slam doors, yell, and the like.

I went to his apartment a few times after he left. He would tell me all kinds of things about my mother. He tried to make my mother seem like a sociopath. He tried to convince me that she was becoming an alcoholic. I believed him at first, but then I did a lot of thinking and observing... and found what he was saying to not be true.

He's brainwashing my brothers with the same lies, and they are starting to be disrespectful to my mother and me (well, they were, when I was living at home).

He harassed my mom. He texted her constantly. And when she wouldn't answer, he'd text one of us (the children). One night, when I was sleeping over at his place, she wouldn't answer, so he used my phone to call her. He asked, and I was afraid of what he'd think if I didn't let him use it. She answered the phone, and he told her to call him, etc. He sounded angry.

I decided to stop sleeping over after that. One night soon after, I got a text from him. (Keep in mind, "Poodle" was his nickname for me.)

Him: Hey poodle! Love you!!
Me: Love you!
Him: Is mom sleeping? I was trying to get her. Please don't wake her if she is.
Me: She's at the store.
Him: How long ago did she go?
Me: An hour or so.
Him: Ok. Did you just text her?
Me: I asked for soup, yes.
Him: Oh. Cause she just looked at my text. Please don't mention I asked, okay?
Me: Okay.

At this point, I was beginning to realize that he was probably harassing her. Another time, there was a similar dialogue, but I replied that I "didn't know how long she'd been gone." So he called my brother (age thirteen). When he wouldn't pick up, my dad texted me. I told him my brother was asleep, so he had my other brother (ten at the time) to pick up. My brother gave him all the answers that he was looking for.

I blocked his number, so he couldn't send me anymore messages (every time he asked where she was, etc. sent me into an anxiety attack).

Before I left for college, he came into the house without knocking right after my mom and I were putting in groceries. He was looking for my mom (I was in the kitchen, which is where the back door was). I said I'd go get her. He proceeded to follow me into her bedroom. I tried to get away without saying anything, and this is what happened.

Him: Morgan, wait! You haven't said anything to me in a month. Talk to me.
Me: I don't really want to talk.
Him: I am your father, and you have to respect me.
Me: Okay.
Him: Let me ask you some things. Is it your intention for me to help you move into your dorm?
Me: No.
Him: Is it your intention for me to take your turtles?
Me: No.
Him: Okay. I will not try to Facebook you, text you, or talk to you until you are ready.
Me: Thank you.
Him: -bends down to my height and raises his voice- You're welcome.

And then they went and talked.

I told my brothers everything I knew, which was everything he said my mom was saying.

My mom refuses to say a negative word about him to me.

They relayed it to him. Last month, I got a call from my mom, very stressed. She said that he was telling my brothers that I was saying he got fired, but she didn't know that I knew he got fired. I was confused. I didn't know he'd gotten fired. I knew that he'd taken a sick leave in the beginning of the divorce, but I didn't know he'd been recently fired.

I called my dad.

He started off by saying that he loved and missed me. He missed our long conversations that we had at night in the kitchen when he was still living with my mom. He said that he didn't want me to hate my mom's family, because "the more people that love you in this world, the better."

I told him I didn't know he'd lost his job. As it turns out, he was saying that I had told my brothers that the only reason he could do all the things he did with them and cook the great food that he cooked all the time was because he wasn't working. Which I said. When he had taken a sick leave (or whatever it's called). I told him I never said he got fired, and so he wasn't being entirely truthful. He put my brother (thirteen) on the phone, and my brother told me what he said, which was what I had said. And he said, "I am just repeating what your brother said."

I told him that I thought it was wrong for him to use his children to get information. He said he didn't. He said that they opened up to him. I told him I didn't believe him and I thought he wasn't being entirely truthful. He said that there was no way that the information I was getting wasn't from my mother. I told him that all of the information he gave me was from him, when he told me what she was saying. I said I thought it was wrong for him to try and turn me against my own mother. He said I was "seventeen and old enough to know." Or something like that. And I said that she was "still my mother." He said that one time my brother (ten at the time) couldn't sleep because he could hear my grandmother and I talking bad about him (more on that in a bit). We went back and forth. After a while, he just hung up on me. He then texted me, saying that he would "not sit there and listen to me call him a liar."

As for the grandmother thing, it was about ten in the morning. I was talking to her about how he had this "Man Cave Rules" thing in his living room, which I found childish. I found it online, by the way. He has this in his living room. Classy, right?

He's also telling people that I am saying that they're getting divorced because he wouldn't go to marriage counseling, which is not true. I think it might have helped, but I'm not expert, and I know it didn't cause the divorce.

Anyway, I've been home once since starting college. And I was careful to make sure that my brothers didn't know, so they wouldn't be able to tell my dad that I was home. I'm afraid of him, to be completely honest. I don't even want to go home for Thanksgiving or Christmas.

I turned eighteen last month, on the twenty-first. My mom had asked permission to give my dad my PO Box (which he requested). I gave her the okay, since it's just a PO Box and not the building I live in or anything.

I haven't gotten a card or anything. He requested my PO Box over a month ago.

And all I've been able to think about is how horrible the situation is. My brother (eleven) is being brainwashed by my dad. He's being told that my dad can't afford snowballs. He's being told that my father is borrowing money from other people. He broke down and started crying because he thought he was going to give "the wrong answers" to the evaluator. My other brother (thirteen) is becoming an a**. When I was home, he sometimes started treating me like my dad treated my mom.

I'm not okay. I cry a lot. And I am so disgusted with myself. I know it could be worse. I know there are people starving and dying. I know I'm running away from my problems by not going home.

It seems like every time my dad needed something from me, he said, "I love you," first. I was so close to him. And he tried to manipulate and use me. I don't know if he actually loves me.

Not that I think I deserve it. I'm a coward. I'm disgusting. I'm useless. I'm vile. I can't do anything. My anxiety is paralyzing. My depression suffocating. It's only getting worse, because I'm not taking my medicine. Which is my fault. I can't swallow pills with liquid, and pudding has started making me nauseated when I look at it. Maybe I'd feel better if I took my medicine, but I can't bring myself to do it. Maybe I deserve to suffer, if I can't even take a damn pill.

If you're still here, thanks for reading. I really needed to vent. I feel terrible about it. I don't want anyone to worry/be sad, but I don't know what else to do, other than rant.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 10:00 pm


Sounds like your dad's a rather manipulative person.
Instilling certain thoughts into the heads of those that blindly trust him as the "father figure" as what seems to be either directed at gaining him sympathy or causing your mother grief and you who have already developed your own independence and a pretty reasonable common sense are being dragged into the middle of his mind games.
I think you're berating yourself way too much over something that you don't really have any control over. By no means is what you're doing cowardly.
What you're doing is a form of self preservation. The environment in which you were raised has now became hostile and since you don't know what else to do you feel safer staying away from that environment.

I wish I had something better to offer for your circumstances, but unfortunately all I can really say is that you should try to find your center. Try to find that stable footing toward your peace of mind that allows you to progress forward, even if only by inches at a time. (I'd also recommend trying to find some alternative ways to take your meds, if you're suppose to be taking them)

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 9:36 pm


Dear Chromo,

I definitely feel for your situation. My parents have been married for 50 years now which is a rare thing these days. When I was growing up I saw a lot of my Aunts and Uncles getting divorces which was very hard on the family. I will pray for you and your family.

Do your best to stand back and let things take their course. I feel that's the best way to not get hurt a lot yourself. If things get physically dangerous and you are their you might have to get help in settling down your parents. Do your best to feel at calm. I realize none of this is easy.

Your friends are here for you, even if it's just to listen to you.

Take Care,
Ron
PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 8:19 pm


To start this off, do not ever tell yourself that you are useless, a coward or any of those things. And to hell with anyone else who tells you otherwise. As someone who has been through depression (and may possibly be dealing with anxiety issues) you already have the cards stacked against you. But let me tell you something:

You are a strong ******** person. Dealing with such a crippling illness that saps you of energy, motivation and your mental strength, it takes a lot to keep living. And you keep living every damn day. Even though you don't want to wake up or do anything. When you waste away and become a shadow of what you used to be. Its all dark and you can't see anything and it would be so amazing for it to all just stop.

You are a strong person for still trying. For trying to take your meds even though you can't stomach liquid and your only other alternative is starting to turn your stomach.

You are a strong person for enduring the deep betrayal from one of the people who is supposed to love you unconditionally. You are strong for still living, still trying as the very people-your family- is supposed to be your support group and they are fracturing beneath your feet. Because as Shane Kyoczyan said, "How can you stand your ground when everyone wants to bury you beneath it?" and you are still standing. It's hard, harder than anything in your life, probably, but you are doing it.

And I know it must feel impossible to keep going because you know you are going to slide back again. You still try. And I know it must hurt so much that you are losing your family and that they are all divided. I know that you are trying to run away and I think you are even keeping most of what you are feeling from your mom because you feel like your father is putting her through enough so you don't want to have to burden her too.

I know you are tired, I know you feel weak, beaten, worn out and tired of fighting. But you have made it this far against all of these odds. If you could stand against the battles against everything else, don't let yourself be the person to defeat you.

I know it is so hard, so impossible, but you are doing the impossible by still waking up everyday by feeling the way you do. Don't ever stop fighting. Nothing that is ever worth having is easily won.

If you EVER need to talk, pm me. I don't care what it's about, you can do it.

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Glitoris

Man-Hungry Ladykiller

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 3:36 pm


Zero the Crimson

smithers456

Night Kunoichi

Thanks... it means a lot that so many people actually care. I mean, I know people care. I have people in my life that care.

It's also killing me that he didn't send me so much as a card for my birthday, which was over a month ago. I told my friend that, and a few days later, I got another card (they had sent me one for Halloween and had given me one for my birthday) from her mom, saying how much she and her family loved me. I am so thankful to have them in my life. I really am.

I know I'm the one who cut him off, but it still hurts that he didn't send a card or anything. I shouldn't be hurt - I'm the one who cut contact, after all.

On another note, a happier note, I adopted a kitten (with the permission of my mother) for my brother. I'm giving it to him on Wednesday night, when I get home from school.
PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 5:23 pm


Chromosexual

Thanks... it means a lot that so many people actually care. I mean, I know people care. I have people in my life that care.

It's also killing me that he didn't send me so much as a card for my birthday, which was over a month ago. I told my friend that, and a few days later, I got another card (they had sent me one for Halloween and had given me one for my birthday) from her mom, saying how much she and her family loved me. I am so thankful to have them in my life. I really am.

I know I'm the one who cut him off, but it still hurts that he didn't send a card or anything. I shouldn't be hurt - I'm the one who cut contact, after all.

On another note, a happier note, I adopted a kitten (with the permission of my mother) for my brother. I'm giving it to him on Wednesday night, when I get home from school.


Yeah, I can understand that feeling. (though it's been quite some time since the last time I'd gotten a card on my birthday) It's not much of an upside, but at least it was just that you didn't receive a card. It could have been worse...Like actually seeing you and not saying a word about it. Or even something like sending something meant as an insult or for the purpose of trying to guilt you. I don't mean anything much by that, but yeah, It could have been worse.

Now about that kitten. Do tell. What kind of kitten?

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Glitoris

Man-Hungry Ladykiller

PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 3:33 pm


Zero the Crimson

He tried to friend me on Facebook, which is funny because he blocked me a few months ago. I didn't accept, though.

I actually wound up adopting three. The first one is small and black - my brother named him Skip. The other two are brothers, Salem (another black kitten) and Sabbath (a brown tabby). I'll upload pictures later - I'm bringing them home tomorrow! They were in need of permanent homes after they were fixed, and mom wanted to get two for the boys... but she wound up feeling bad about separating the two brothers, so she told me to bring all three home. They're all so sweet and loving! biggrin
PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 5:11 pm


Chromosexual

He tried to friend me on Facebook, which is funny because he blocked me a few months ago. I didn't accept, though.

I actually wound up adopting three. The first one is small and black - my brother named him Skip. The other two are brothers, Salem (another black kitten) and Sabbath (a brown tabby). I'll upload pictures later - I'm bringing them home tomorrow! They were in need of permanent homes after they were fixed, and mom wanted to get two for the boys... but she wound up feeling bad about separating the two brothers, so she told me to bring all three home. They're all so sweet and loving! biggrin

That's probably for the best.

They sound adorable! Though, I gotta say, you'd think Sabbath would be the black one...for pun's sake.
Kittens are so adorable...and then they get bigger and start getting into things and you question why they couldn't stay that small forever.

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Glitoris

Man-Hungry Ladykiller

PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 9:09 pm


Zero the Crimson

Ugh, my brother wanted to name the black one something different, but oh well. I decided to name the brown one Albert Camew... like Albert Camus.
PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 6:15 pm


Hi Chromo,

Cats and kittens are wonderful and great companions. I have always been a "Cat Person" and have always had a least one cat by my side. Cats will mind you but they can be mischief makers as well. They can sense when you are down and brighten up your day. They will jump for joy when you are happy. They will play but on their terms. Cats can be a calm place to go to when needed. They have their own mind and will in their own way let you know what they want. Cats have always had a special place in my heart. Being born on Halloween I let any and all cats know that it's their day too. smile I have no problem sharing my favorite holiday with them.

Have you taken care of kittens or cats before? If not feel free to ask me questions. I will do my best to answer them for you. Good luck with you new companions and have fun playing with them. smile


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 10:02 pm


Animals have a great way of getting us through bad situations. While he isn't as "cuddly" (according to other people), I don't know what I would have done without my lizard. They force us to look beyond ourselves, make us smile, and reassure us to keep moving forward.

I know that you're in a very hard place. I've not been in your exact position, but I've been pretty close (coming from everyone outside of my immediate family). It hurts a lot, more than we like to admit. Keep pushing forward. Things will get better, just be sure to take care of yourself.

Is there anyone that you're able to see professionally about this? Some of those programs offered by my campus really helped me out before.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 6:26 pm


Chromosexual
Zero the Crimson

Ugh, my brother wanted to name the black one something different, but oh well. I decided to name the brown one Albert Camew... like Albert Camus.

I'd like to say that name sounds familiar, but at the same time it might just be because I'm tired.

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