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Sifen Yamishi

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 3:00 pm


Just to get the ball rolling, I might as well ask this topic.

What do you guys do for the holidays? Any traditions/international holidays here?

Let's talk about them and perhaps, come together as one extended family of sorts during this time of the year.

To reply for my part, I just spend them on my own. I've stopped going to the holiday gatherings my aunt has held for the past 3 years or so.
PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 9:28 pm


I do the usual family stuff, but I don't really hang with them that much. Halloween wise I'm mainly there for the pumpkin carving contest (my family is VERY competitive) and other holidays I usually am off by myself or with my favorite cousin Stephanie.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 10:07 pm


As a habitual costumer, Halloween is my excuse to go wild with the way I look and to experiment with different performance and visual arts in public. For example, tonight I attended a Halloween party at my old college campus dressed as a robot character I'm developing named Aristotle. Tomorrow I'll probably do something zany with my look as well, although it obviously won't be as remarkable because I have to go to work after class.

My family practices Judaism, so we have another costuming holiday called Purim in the spring, as well as Rosh Hashanah, Yom Kippur, Pesach, Hannukah, etc. As an atheist, I don't feel personally obligated to celebrate them but, depending on my family's mood, I will enjoy the holidays with them anyway for the sake of quality time.
PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 8:59 am


Halloween has always been very important to me. This will be the first year in AGES where I'm not really doing anything - no parties, no costume, no jack o'lantern at home (I helped a friend with carving theirs last night, I have small hands so I traditionally do all the gutting and inside scraping). In the past couple years our larger group have moved away, or have too-small children for parties/trick-or-treat, or in my case simply don't have the money and time to celebrate massively. Usually there's a huge party everyone comes together for, all bringing big dishes of food and bags of candy to hand out to trick-or-treaters.

I may still go out and throw something together last minute, but one of my professors has goofed and not made the weekly tests available. College comes absolutely first because doing well NOW will provide me a solid career, which equals the ability to have massive Halloween celebrations in years to come.

Day of the Dead is coming up too. This was a holiday I didn't learn of until I was an adult and it's helped me to accept death and celebrate life. I'm comforted by the idea of being able to clean and decorate the graves of my loved ones and tell their stories after they're gone from this world. I've been so tied up with school I've not even planned to bake breads and cakes, but it's not too late for that!

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 3:30 pm


Christmas, Easter, and Thanksgiving are usually spent at my maternal grandmother's house. I have a huge family on that side, so usually a small gathering is about 30 or so people.

New Year's Day, I usually spend at my paternal grandmother's house. We do Christmas there, too, but as all the grandchildren are adults now(except one), it's been smaller and smaller. I figure in coming years, it won't be much at all. plus my dad and at least one of his brothers are tense with each other.

As for Halloween.... Well, I usually dress up year round, but it's only on here. This will be my first year that I don't go trick or treating. I'm 22, but so what? I like the fun and cute part of Halloween. Not so much the spooky, "let's incite fear and terror into people" part of it.
PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 5:39 pm


Halloween is pretty fun, but where I live it always turns out to be really bad as far as weather. This was my first year not trick-or-treating. I am fourteen and I am really self-conscious, plus I felt too old to do the whole "ask for candy from random people" thing.

I like Christmas, I just don't celebrate it like most people. My mom believes in a god and stuff like Heaven or the Underworld, but I don't. Plus, my mom isn't the nicest towards me. I like the idea and gift-giving, I just am not sure if I like the holiday due to some not-so-fond memories of it in my household.

As I don't really believe in a god, I don't really like Easter. My mom cooks a turkey every year, but I am not sure how the next Easter is going to turn out because I am now a vegetarian.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2014 8:18 am


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I feel you about the not-so-happy memories connected with religious holidays. Yom Kippur, for example, is tense with my family because, while it's supposed to be a day when everyone resolved to do better and apologizes for their faults and wrong-doings of the past year, my family tends to always amp up the judgmental attitude and will jump down each others' throats at a moment's notice. It's weird. Of course, it may be because it's a total fast day (no food or water for 24hrs), but still... Eek.

As for the whole "being vegetarian" thing, might I suggest something? My family (excepting myself) is vegan and we often go to my Christian grandmother's house during Christian holidays to visit with my dad's relatives. To create a median between those without dietary restrictions and those with (Kosher, vegan, etc.), we typically offer to help cook or bring a dish that we can eat.

To translate this into a small family setting, maybe you could look online for a vegetarian dish that your family would like and offer to cook it for Easter. It could be a great thing not only to help you enjoy Easter with your family but to also show solidarity between you and your mother for a day, as a lot of kids these days don't want to help cook or do anything in the kitchen. My mother often gets angry with me and we fight a lot, but she tends to soften up and be more friendly when I volunteer to help cook or clean.

Just a suggestion; hope it helps. ^^
PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2014 9:18 am


Lawrence Eugene

That's a really good idea. My mom usually spends Thanksgiving and Easter with other people and going outside of the apartment for the gathering because she got divorced from my dad. I can easily work that out if I bring a dish to the gathering. Thank you for suggesting that. I will try that when Mom is starting to think of things to cook for the holidays. biggrin

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2014 9:45 am


Rabidness

That's a really good idea. My mom usually spends Thanksgiving and Easter with other people and going outside of the apartment for the gathering because she got divorced from my dad. I can easily work that out if I bring a dish to the gathering. Thank you for suggesting that. I will try that when Mom is starting to think of things to cook for the holidays. biggrin

Here's hoping it works out, and that you have an awesome bunch of holidays next year!
PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 8:26 am


I like holidays and I don't stress over them. "Halloween" isn't official holiday here, in Finland there's this "all saints day", Christian version or something, err? It's just about visiting graves, mainly, I don't pay attention to it, except most of the stores are closed. Buuut me and my friends had Halloween party anyway.

Well most of the holidays have ancient pagan roots so I think it's great to keep them alive, adds a bit of cultural and historical spice to my year. But to be honest, traditions and history are really great, but I'm happiest about having small vacation above anything else. Also I love food. So specially I like Christmas / Joulu (it's Joulu here, it comes from the same word as Yule I think but is translated as Christmas anyway), I usually spend it together with my mom and sister, and I'm trying to visit my father, other family and friends too. And eat a lot.

Midsummer is another one of my favourites, it used to be a big family gathering when I was a kid, I would see my cousins, but now we're all older. I still go to see bonfire during midsummer night tho, it's a very important tradition to me, for no apparent reason I guess.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 11:03 am


Riivaaja


That's really interesting! Do you know the history of All Saints' Day? Does it occur around the same time as Halloween? I've heard of a similar holiday that follows Halloween (which used to be called "Hallows' Eve"), but I don't know many people outside of Wiccans who actually celebrate it in the US.

How did you and your friends' party go? Was it fun? The party I attended was basically dark lights, loud music and a lot of pizza and skittles. There weren't a lot of people, but the EMS students and police cadets who take late-night classes at the old campus would join us while they were on break (mostly because of the pizza, I think).

How would one pronounce Joulu? I'm guessing it's sort of like "Yulo" but I don't want to assume, LOL. Is it celebrated any differently, or is it basically the same thing as Christmas?

I wish I got holidays off, haha... I have worked two jobs in my life, and neither of them closed on the holidays. My first job, a convenience store, made me work on Thanksgiving and on Christmas Eve (when I usually visit with my Christian grandmother), but they at least made up for it with double pay or 1.5x pay. At my new job, I have to work every weekend no matter what, and if I try to call in sick or ask for a day off, they either threaten to fire me or only give me half-days.
PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 1:20 pm


Lawrence Eugene
Yeah it does move around a bit but they're pretty close! It's always on saturday and around 31 of October or in the beginning of November. Hmm not sure about the history, since it's about saints and dead people I presumed it to be of Catholic origin, but Lutherans also celebrate it here. (Lutheran is the main branch of Christianity in Finland.)

Yeah it was fun, first I had some university friends come over and we made muffins and stuff with my sis and decorated them with white chocolate skulls. We watched some movies, got our costumes on and headed to another friend's place, he had just moved there so it was a welcoming party too. Aaand then we continued to Hard Rock Cafe's Halloween party but we just sat around chatting because everything was expensive and we're just poor students. xd
Then we went back to my place with three people and grabbed all the treats and headed to another place because they had awesome TV and netflix, continued eating, chatting, laughing and watching movies 'till 4 or 5 AM, can't remember clearly. There's no trick-or-treat tradition here, I had a small pumpkin pail with me and some dude commented it being "so American style" or something, I bet he was just jealous because my pumpkin was awesome. ninja

That sounds like a great evening too! (-:

http://fi.forvo.com/word/joulu/
^This is how you pronounce it, you got close!
It's basically the same, since people don't differ Christmas and Yule or other pagan traditions that much, they're mixed together. You know, like Christmas tree is really common here too. But 24th of Christmas is when the presents are opened, in the evening. And Santa Claus is called "Joulupukki" which actually means "Yule Goat". It used to be a man wearing a scary goat mask but that was a LONG AGO, never met a real Joulupukki/Nuuttipukki when I was a child, Santa visited our house tho. Also in Sweden and Finland you eat ham on Christmas, and rice porridge. I guess the food is what mostly differs haha. And I'm not sure if people go to sauna on Christmas in other countries.

Whoa, that's too bad...! I guess it depends a lot on what kind of job you have too, but that doesn't sound very nice...

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 1:53 pm


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I work as a host at an old diner. It's very low-maintenance and most of the other employees have criminal history. =.= I'm looking for another job, LOL.

That's so fascinating! According to my Wiccan friends and what I have learned from fellow history buffs, All Saints' Day is considered to be as old as Halloween with a lot of similar history. According to them, All Saints' Day was a Celtic/Pagan holiday when spirits would return from the grave to visit their loved ones for a day. Halloween was the night before All Saints' Day, when some spirits returned early and might harm their loved ones out of confusion. That's why the pumpkin faces are so popular on Halloween today; originally, people would carve faces in radishes to trick or scare away the harmful ghosts. When the sun rose on All Saints' Day, everything was safe and you could spend time with beloved relatives who had passed on.

It sounds like your party was fantastic! Mine ended at 9:30PM and I only got to wear my costume for a few hours (except for some of the facepaint, which wouldn't wash off until the next morning >,>). I plan to wear it again sometime soon, though, just for fun and practice.

Hands down, Joulu sounds way more awesome than Christmas. XD At my grandmother's Christmas celebration, we have a Christmas tree and all kinds of different foods, typically including pecan pie and sliced pork, beef and turkey. For some reason, it's a tradition to give your relatives a fruitcake on Christmas; I have no idea why, because in my opinion, they taste awful, haha. I celebrate Hannukah instead, though, so I manage to avoid fruitcake for the most part.
PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 11:18 pm


Lawrence Eugene

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Ohh I remember hearing similar stories, I thought that's the way it's spend anyway, but didn't know it's Celtic origin! Except here you get rid of the "evil" spirits by going to sauna, though sauna at night will be where the spirits gathered to have their own turn for bathing and there are many stories of what happened to people who went there during ancestors'/ghosts sauna turn and how they got attacked or scared by the spirits.

I saw the picture of your facepaint, it was really cool! If I have time maybe I'll post some pics too!

I think best part of Joulu is that it can be both Christian and non-Christian holiday. I think most of the Finns would say that Joulu is celebrated because the birth of Christ but pretty much all of the Finns know that Joulu traditions and celebrating date way before Christianity was introduced here. And this is why I don't have a problem with "religious" (well, mainly Christian) holidays, since here they're really mixed with different traditions anyway. Pecan pie sounds like something I'd like to try! AND YEAH, the fruitcake problem! I have this one aunt who always makes it, but my family doesn't run into her fruitcakes every year, luckily!
Can you tell me more about Hanukkah, I've heard a bit about it but mainly I just know it's a Jewish holiday, so my knowledge is very limited... sweatdrop

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 12:35 pm


Riivaaja

Thanks! I worked on it a lot, and I practiced the design on paper for almost a year before trying it on on face.

Hmm... The sauna bit is very interesting! It reminds me of the scene in "Spirited Away" when all the ghosts and nature spirits visit the bathhouse. Really cool!

Hannukah is a celebration based on a story from Jewish history, when the Greeks tried to ban Jewish traditions and practices in Israel. A rebel group called the Maccabees rose up and drove the Greeks out of Israel and celebrated by going to the temple, cleaning it up from the destruction caused by the Greeks, and lighting the menorah (a special seven-lighted candelabra).

Hannukah itself has a lot of symbolism and tradition in it, and lasts for eight days. Each day, families visit each other, exchange gifts, play games and light candles. The game is called Dreidel and is a simple gambling game that is a lot of fun. We use chocolate coins, though, because technically gambling is only allowed on Purim (which is in the springtime). Traditional foods are sufganiyot (fried doughnuts with jelly or sweet paste inside) and latkes (fried potato pancakes, kind of like hashbrowns). It's a fried-food kind of holiday, LOL, and that's also a symbol for something.

I honestly don't think there's a Jewish holiday that doesn't have a bucket load of symbolism in it. That's sort of the charm.
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