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Do atheist scientist know how the universe came to exist at any time?
  yes and I'm going to prove it
  no
  God made the universe
  Yes Im shocked that you would say otherwise
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Theseuss

PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 1:13 pm


Why does the universe exists?Well something had to create it ,so we call this something the one god. This why question is what makes scientists go mad because it's the only thing not in their power to control. More than one god is too human like, you would have to apply the rule of time to make this possible. God is not a being ;you kill god you kill everything. Evil is the process in becoming nothing. FACT- In order for something to be truly made the maker can not be ruled by the same rules the creation is made by ,hence the law of conservation.
PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 9:30 pm


Theseuss
Why does the universe exists?Well something had to create it ,so we call this something the one god.


First... why did something have to create it? Why can't it always have existed? And even presuming that it was created, who says that God did it?

Theseuss
This why question is what makes scientists go mad because it's the only thing not in their power to control. More than one god is too human like, you would have to apply the rule of time to make this possible.


I think I'm a bit confused by the reasoning here. Why is more than one deity more human-like? I'm not sure either is more human-like than the other... 'pends on one's point of view, doesn't it?

Theseuss

FACT- In order for something to be truly made the maker can not be ruled by the same rules the creation is made by ,hence the law of conservation.


Why not? Why can't the creator be ruled by the same rules as the creation? You aren't really providing any reasons for this, so I'm a bit confused and have no idea where to proceed argument-wise in response to your post. sweatdrop

Starlock


Theseuss

PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 7:08 pm


Starlock
Theseuss
Why does the universe exists?Well something had to create it ,so we call this something the one god.


First... why did something have to create it? Why can't it always have existed? And even presuming that it was created, who says that God did it?

According to you, Universe could be create by it self, therefore God is the universe(makes sense) and as far as we care the universe always exist.
Starlock
Theseuss
This why question is what makes scientists go mad because it's the only thing not in their power to control. More than one god is too human like, you would have to apply the rule of time to make this possible.


I think I'm a bit confused by the reasoning here. Why is more than one deity more human-like? I'm not sure either is more human-like than the other... 'pends on one's point of view, doesn't it?

If there was more than one God, they will be seen as one because they would all exist at once, any other inferior god that existed after the first is the inference that time exist.(Time word; after)
Starlock
Theseuss

FACT- In order for something to be truly made the maker can not be ruled by the same rules the creation is made by ,hence the law of conservation.


Why not? Why can't the creator be ruled by the same rules as the creation? You aren't really providing any reasons for this, so I'm a bit confused and have no idea where to proceed argument-wise in response to your post. sweatdrop
The Law of Conservation states that you can only change the shape of matter not create or destroy it. Have you ever seen a person break this rule or anything break a Law that defines the universe it exists in.
PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 5:29 pm


I still believe that nothing created the Universe, that it simply has and always will exist.

Indicrow


Arcturian

PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 1:48 am


I'm not answering the poll because it doesn't have my view on this. I follow a more gnosticist view (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnostic) on the creation/birth of the universe. Not to the lettre of course because dogmatism and fundementalism is just plain silly (pardon for all you dogmatists and fundementalists out there).

Suppose the physical universe was born because of a divine mistake?
PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 3:13 pm


I like the idea of a cyclical universe: the universe is in a constant cycle of reuse ie. everything came from something that came from something else that is also CURRENTLY HAPPENING, so it's impossible to find the origin of anything.

Time can't be measured from a cyclical (sp?) view because every moment in time is essentially happening at the same time. It follows then that the creation of the universe couldn't happen because that point in time doesn't exist by a conventional view. It would always be happening, which is in complete contradiction with all the laws of nature.

I may be confusing two theories here, but its a complex subject I don't have a great understanding of.

bonkiep


Django XIII

PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 11:47 am


Theseuss
The Law of Conservation states that you can only change the shape of matter not create or destroy it. Have you ever seen a person break this rule or anything break a Law that defines the universe it exists in.
That has to do with energy, not matter. But either way it's an assumption to say that that God created the universe on the basis that we don't have a rational or empirical answer.
PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:20 am


I would like to believe that, every answer has a role to play in this... Personally I believe that God created everything, qouting the bible.. Divine mistake? Not so much in my belief, I wiould like to believe that The universe was created for a purpose and that everything happens for a reason. The relationships, friendships, and Nemisis's that we make all have a effect on the world, and inso a effect on all beings and creation... to answer a previous question, the fact of Polytheism seeming more human is the fact that beings of our nature of human nature cannot comprehend the fact that one God one supreme being could over see and watch the creation and persavation of everyone of us at any given time. Unfortunatly we can never prove that God existis But through faith we can believe... I personally Loath to phathom the thought that every religion is right in some small way, that Brothership and love for one another is the universal launguage of religion. That it dont matter how you spell God, just that we all respect one another and respect the commandments that we all should practice. Personally being of the pinacostal faith, we believe feeling the spirit and we believe that Jesus was God come in the flesh. People look to much at the fact that he was a blasphemer saying that he was God in the body, and not the fact that he was a kind, loving, and devout person although he was terribly persuicuted.. Sorry about spelling its early for me... But I am very intrested to see what everyone has to say and I will never try to disprove something of good intentions....

Odanious

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