Alright, I'm going to need your ideas and input on our story idea. It isn't your usual story, which is what I'm hoping for. So give it a read and your feed back is much appreciated. Thanks much, Axzaki Heroki.
Okay the first part the story take off by the setting of the seireitei if we choose to start with own main story. During the years of Axzaki promotion to Head Captain, and Akane promotion to Head Vice captain a lot of changes have happen throughout the years, even peace between hollows whom knows how to think on their own and not by instinct and shinigami(Gotei 13) have made peace. Wars have becomes little to nothing, basically showing only the hollows they worry about are those that appear to feed on the pulse(souls who haven't left the world of the living). However the twelfth Division had began to see that more humans in the world of the living were seeing spirits, and this is not intentional on their part. Almost like its a sudden thing, example a normal person who has very very weak spiritual pressure(average human) walking and suddenly they have burst of spiritual energy which now make them able to see spirit which also means they become targeted by hollows. This means life in the world of the living is thrown off balance, however this isn't happening all by a mistake but by the hands of someone or something. I was thinking a scientist who once worked in the seireitei retired from the ranks and decided to move to the world of the living. He gathered him a small group to help him with a project, to make him his own kingdom in the world of the living. With this being done, they began to build machines to amp the spiritual activity in average human while at the same time, using these humans to build him, his own society. This is still in the works, but this a idea that is different from what we are all always use too. With the taking over the soul society, or betrayal or even someone who wants revenge. Just a scientist who get so strung up in science they he wants make his own world by using the human race as a foundation, not realizing it upsetting the balance of life. Of course this man also somewhat loses his sanity(Joker DK) type of character basically to artifact which will hold in for future story.
Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 10:05 am
It's not bad, but the stuff with the hollows concerns me. It doesn't seem very realistic that they'd suddenly just stop being at war with the Shinigami. Many hollows never struck me as being unintelligent in the first place, but regardless if they did suddenly gain more intelligence it wouldn't lead to an end of the war, rather it would more likely lead to an escalation in the war. It would make them more dangerous and more determined since they'd be able to better organize. In addition, they'd want to skin the Gotei 13 alive for the centuries of persecution. No, it's not likely that they'd give up easily, and besides it's anticlimactic. Hollows suddenly giving up for no good reason, and besides they've always made for a good storyline. I'm not saying have them in a state of hot war, maybe a cold war at best, but not total peace. As for the actual plot, I can't really make too much of an observation since I probably need a few more details. But at the moment it seems like an idea that could easily lead to it suddenly stalling out and dying if it goes on for very long at all. It seems like it would only be interesting a short amount of time.
It's not bad, but the stuff with the hollows concerns me. It doesn't seem very realistic that they'd suddenly just stop being at war with the Shinigami. Many hollows never struck me as being unintelligent in the first place, but regardless if they did suddenly gain more intelligence it wouldn't lead to an end of the war, rather it would more likely lead to an escalation in the war. It would make them more dangerous and more determined since they'd be able to better organize. In addition, they'd want to skin the Gotei 13 alive for the centuries of persecution. No, it's not likely that they'd give up easily, and besides it's anticlimactic. Hollows suddenly giving up for no good reason, and besides they've always made for a good storyline. I'm not saying have them in a state of hot war, maybe a cold war at best, but not total peace. As for the actual plot, I can't really make too much of an observation since I probably need a few more details. But at the moment it seems like an idea that could easily lead to it suddenly stalling out and dying if it goes on for very long at all. It seems like it would only be interesting a short amount of time.
Time to Dissect this little "Oh hollows blah blah blah" this is me being a blugh lmao XD.
1. Not all hollows are war hungers which if you happen to noticed in bleach cannon it said"Tia Haribel" ruled hueco mundo before the quinices came, which means hollows on a intelligent level doesn't always have to seek war or even seek blood shed. Think about..they have evolved to have a personality and their own way of living which means not by instinct but by choice.
2. I said "Give me your ideas" not saying "This is Final, not caring what others want."(pf) lmao. However I never said they actually go and talk to each other about making peace, obviously I mean hollows be hollows and shinigami be shinigami. Anyone who makes peaces doesn't always have to make contact, it just means we don't bother them, they don't bother us...do you understand.
3. I'am glad that you have voiced or typed your opinion, and I'm hoping this helps you get a clear idea of what I'm addressing in this story. If you find this story to be bad or even feel it might be "boring" feel free to add you ideas on how to make this a better story. Just realize one thing though, Shinigami vs Arrancar gets old and boring, I mean almost every bleach guild is doing it. Just a little something to think about, however if their can be twist to such "Shinigami vs Arrancar" the please do tell. Or else we'll just end up with the same story with different characters do the same thing.
Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 11:04 am
Axzaki Heroki
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It's not bad, but the stuff with the hollows concerns me. It doesn't seem very realistic that they'd suddenly just stop being at war with the Shinigami. Many hollows never struck me as being unintelligent in the first place, but regardless if they did suddenly gain more intelligence it wouldn't lead to an end of the war, rather it would more likely lead to an escalation in the war. It would make them more dangerous and more determined since they'd be able to better organize. In addition, they'd want to skin the Gotei 13 alive for the centuries of persecution. No, it's not likely that they'd give up easily, and besides it's anticlimactic. Hollows suddenly giving up for no good reason, and besides they've always made for a good storyline. I'm not saying have them in a state of hot war, maybe a cold war at best, but not total peace. As for the actual plot, I can't really make too much of an observation since I probably need a few more details. But at the moment it seems like an idea that could easily lead to it suddenly stalling out and dying if it goes on for very long at all. It seems like it would only be interesting a short amount of time.
Time to Dissect this little "Oh hollows blah blah blah" this is me being a blugh lmao XD.
1. Not all hollows are war hungers which if you happen to noticed in bleach cannon it said"Tia Haribel" ruled hueco mundo before the quinices came, which means hollows on a intelligent level doesn't always have to seek war or even seek blood shed. Think about..they have evolved to have a personality and their own way of living which means not by instinct but by choice.
2. I said "Give me your ideas" not saying "This is Final, not caring what others want."(pf) lmao. However I never said they actually go and talk to each other about making peace, obviously I mean hollows be hollows and shinigami be shinigami. Anyone who makes peaces doesn't always have to make contact, it just means we don't bother them, they don't bother us...do you understand.
3. I'am glad that you have voiced or typed your opinion, and I'm hoping this helps you get a clear idea of what I'm addressing in this story. If you find this story to be bad or even feel it might be "boring" feel free to add you ideas on how to make this a better story. Just realize one thing though, Shinigami vs Arrancar gets old and boring, I mean almost every bleach guild is doing it. Just a little something to think about, however if their can be twist to such "Shinigami vs Arrancar" the please do tell. Or else we'll just end up with the same story with different characters do the same thing.
1. I see your point about them not being warmongers, and I wasn't saying they are. I was merely pointing out that more intelligence would likely lead to increased distrust, meaning they'd want even less contact with Shinigami. Though you did kinda mess me up with the whole peace thing, since your implication wasn't quite right. Your definition sounds pretty close to the whole Cold War scenario I was talking about. Technically, during the Cold War it was peace and the US and Soviets talked, but there was a whole lot of plotting on both sides. I was merely implying that while they may not be at war, the Hollows and Shinigami should remain intensely unfriendly to each other, with small skirmishes every now and again. Although, you're also implying that hollows are completely unified, which is also unlikely. From the glimpses we've seen of hollow life, they seem to hate each other almost as much as they hate Shinigami. Barragan was the supposed king of hueco mundo, yet it was obvious that many hollows weren't affiliated with him at all, my guess is that at best the arrancar would only be able to control 20% of the hollow population, both the hollow population and hueco mundo are too large to control, and as such they'd be unable to all agree. I'm thinking it could be a little interesting to have various hollow factions competing with each other as part of a side arc, but I'll admit we'd probably have difficulties with that. 2. One idea I thought of to make it a tad interesting is to have the arrancar and shinigami compete a bit in regards to the Scientist you're talking about. Perhaps have both working against him, but the arrancar either want him or that artifact for themselves, while the Shinigami want both either destroyed or in their custody.
It's not bad, but the stuff with the hollows concerns me. It doesn't seem very realistic that they'd suddenly just stop being at war with the Shinigami. Many hollows never struck me as being unintelligent in the first place, but regardless if they did suddenly gain more intelligence it wouldn't lead to an end of the war, rather it would more likely lead to an escalation in the war. It would make them more dangerous and more determined since they'd be able to better organize. In addition, they'd want to skin the Gotei 13 alive for the centuries of persecution. No, it's not likely that they'd give up easily, and besides it's anticlimactic. Hollows suddenly giving up for no good reason, and besides they've always made for a good storyline. I'm not saying have them in a state of hot war, maybe a cold war at best, but not total peace. As for the actual plot, I can't really make too much of an observation since I probably need a few more details. But at the moment it seems like an idea that could easily lead to it suddenly stalling out and dying if it goes on for very long at all. It seems like it would only be interesting a short amount of time.
Time to Dissect this little "Oh hollows blah blah blah" this is me being a blugh lmao XD.
1. Not all hollows are war hungers which if you happen to noticed in bleach cannon it said"Tia Haribel" ruled hueco mundo before the quinices came, which means hollows on a intelligent level doesn't always have to seek war or even seek blood shed. Think about..they have evolved to have a personality and their own way of living which means not by instinct but by choice.
2. I said "Give me your ideas" not saying "This is Final, not caring what others want."(pf) lmao. However I never said they actually go and talk to each other about making peace, obviously I mean hollows be hollows and shinigami be shinigami. Anyone who makes peaces doesn't always have to make contact, it just means we don't bother them, they don't bother us...do you understand.
3. I'am glad that you have voiced or typed your opinion, and I'm hoping this helps you get a clear idea of what I'm addressing in this story. If you find this story to be bad or even feel it might be "boring" feel free to add you ideas on how to make this a better story. Just realize one thing though, Shinigami vs Arrancar gets old and boring, I mean almost every bleach guild is doing it. Just a little something to think about, however if their can be twist to such "Shinigami vs Arrancar" the please do tell. Or else we'll just end up with the same story with different characters do the same thing.
1. I see your point about them not being warmongers, and I wasn't saying they are. I was merely pointing out that more intelligence would likely lead to increased distrust, meaning they'd want even less contact with Shinigami. Though you did kinda mess me up with the whole peace thing, since your implication wasn't quite right. Your definition sounds pretty close to the whole Cold War scenario I was talking about. Technically, during the Cold War it was peace and the US and Soviets talked, but there was a whole lot of plotting on both sides. I was merely implying that while they may not be at war, the Hollows and Shinigami should remain intensely unfriendly to each other, with small skirmishes every now and again. Although, you're also implying that hollows are completely unified, which is also unlikely. From the glimpses we've seen of hollow life, they seem to hate each other almost as much as they hate Shinigami. Barragan was the supposed king of hueco mundo, yet it was obvious that many hollows weren't affiliated with him at all, my guess is that at best the arrancar would only be able to control 20% of the hollow population, both the hollow population and hueco mundo are too large to control, and as such they'd be unable to all agree. I'm thinking it could be a little interesting to have various hollow factions competing with each other as part of a side arc, but I'll admit we'd probably have difficulties with that. 2. One idea I thought of to make it a tad interesting is to have the arrancar and shinigami compete a bit in regards to the Scientist you're talking about. Perhaps have both working against him, but the arrancar either want him or that artifact for themselves, while the Shinigami want both either destroyed or in their custody.
1. Obviously my friend we know some Hollows will group together which will be the ones under Yummys control (High and His army) though I never meant there will be 100% peace in this story, mainly it's a opening story something to stir up action. Also please read the story as it is, beginning there is peace, hollows began to attack as balance began to get thrown off etc etc. If one was to read it like that and not so focused on one part about the part of hollows and shinigami destroying one another they would get a clear view of the idea...just saying. Also if there were other groups of Arrancar with intelligence how long would they survive without Yummy(High) getting to them? Lets say they did survive and didn't make contact, well then they would be active enemies to the shinigami right? I'm sure they're going to want to go to the world of the living and feed. At the time barragan had his group, though never unlike High, his hollows were different not as evolved as he was and obviously feared him because of his power. Starrk..killed hollows just by them being near him. If you see where I'm going then you would see my point is, they may controlled a small portion and was intelligent but how many shinigami actually came in contact with them? It was Hollows and hollows, my main idea is in the beginning of the story is them having peace is past tense which I made clear "During Axzaki promotion" past tense XD. So to sum all balooha up, there was peace before the this story, and in beginning of the story will be peace. Though this is the reason for getting ideas, to add to it to make it not so bland Kapeesh??
2. How dare you use US history on me >.> lol.
3. Pretty good idea, as I said all ideas are needed to make the opening story better.
Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 1:15 pm
Axzaki Heroki
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It's not bad, but the stuff with the hollows concerns me. It doesn't seem very realistic that they'd suddenly just stop being at war with the Shinigami. Many hollows never struck me as being unintelligent in the first place, but regardless if they did suddenly gain more intelligence it wouldn't lead to an end of the war, rather it would more likely lead to an escalation in the war. It would make them more dangerous and more determined since they'd be able to better organize. In addition, they'd want to skin the Gotei 13 alive for the centuries of persecution. No, it's not likely that they'd give up easily, and besides it's anticlimactic. Hollows suddenly giving up for no good reason, and besides they've always made for a good storyline. I'm not saying have them in a state of hot war, maybe a cold war at best, but not total peace. As for the actual plot, I can't really make too much of an observation since I probably need a few more details. But at the moment it seems like an idea that could easily lead to it suddenly stalling out and dying if it goes on for very long at all. It seems like it would only be interesting a short amount of time.
Time to Dissect this little "Oh hollows blah blah blah" this is me being a blugh lmao XD.
1. Not all hollows are war hungers which if you happen to noticed in bleach cannon it said"Tia Haribel" ruled hueco mundo before the quinices came, which means hollows on a intelligent level doesn't always have to seek war or even seek blood shed. Think about..they have evolved to have a personality and their own way of living which means not by instinct but by choice.
2. I said "Give me your ideas" not saying "This is Final, not caring what others want."(pf) lmao. However I never said they actually go and talk to each other about making peace, obviously I mean hollows be hollows and shinigami be shinigami. Anyone who makes peaces doesn't always have to make contact, it just means we don't bother them, they don't bother us...do you understand.
3. I'am glad that you have voiced or typed your opinion, and I'm hoping this helps you get a clear idea of what I'm addressing in this story. If you find this story to be bad or even feel it might be "boring" feel free to add you ideas on how to make this a better story. Just realize one thing though, Shinigami vs Arrancar gets old and boring, I mean almost every bleach guild is doing it. Just a little something to think about, however if their can be twist to such "Shinigami vs Arrancar" the please do tell. Or else we'll just end up with the same story with different characters do the same thing.
1. I see your point about them not being warmongers, and I wasn't saying they are. I was merely pointing out that more intelligence would likely lead to increased distrust, meaning they'd want even less contact with Shinigami. Though you did kinda mess me up with the whole peace thing, since your implication wasn't quite right. Your definition sounds pretty close to the whole Cold War scenario I was talking about. Technically, during the Cold War it was peace and the US and Soviets talked, but there was a whole lot of plotting on both sides. I was merely implying that while they may not be at war, the Hollows and Shinigami should remain intensely unfriendly to each other, with small skirmishes every now and again. Although, you're also implying that hollows are completely unified, which is also unlikely. From the glimpses we've seen of hollow life, they seem to hate each other almost as much as they hate Shinigami. Barragan was the supposed king of hueco mundo, yet it was obvious that many hollows weren't affiliated with him at all, my guess is that at best the arrancar would only be able to control 20% of the hollow population, both the hollow population and hueco mundo are too large to control, and as such they'd be unable to all agree. I'm thinking it could be a little interesting to have various hollow factions competing with each other as part of a side arc, but I'll admit we'd probably have difficulties with that. 2. One idea I thought of to make it a tad interesting is to have the arrancar and shinigami compete a bit in regards to the Scientist you're talking about. Perhaps have both working against him, but the arrancar either want him or that artifact for themselves, while the Shinigami want both either destroyed or in their custody.
1. Obviously my friend we know some Hollows will group together which will be the ones under Yummys control (High and His army) though I never meant there will be 100% peace in this story, mainly it's a opening story something to stir up action. Also please read the story as it is, beginning there is peace, hollows began to attack as balance began to get thrown off etc etc. If one was to read it like that and not so focused on one part about the part of hollows and shinigami destroying one another they would get a clear view of the idea...just saying. Also if there were other groups of Arrancar with intelligence how long would they survive without Yummy(High) getting to them? Lets say they did survive and didn't make contact, well then they would be active enemies to the shinigami right? I'm sure they're going to want to go to the world of the living and feed. At the time barragan had his group, though never unlike High, his hollows were different not as evolved as he was and obviously feared him because of his power. Starrk..killed hollows just by them being near him. If you see where I'm going then you would see my point is, they may controlled a small portion and was intelligent but how many shinigami actually came in contact with them? It was Hollows and hollows, my main idea is in the beginning of the story is them having peace is past tense which I made clear "During Axzaki promotion" past tense XD. So to sum all balooha up, there was peace before the this story, and in beginning of the story will be peace. Though this is the reason for getting ideas, to add to it to make it not so bland Kapeesh??
2. How dare you use US history on me >.> lol.
3. Pretty good idea, as I said all ideas are needed to make the opening story better. 1. Ah alright...I might have an idea or two on how to accelerate that loss of peace mwhahahahaha. 2. Haha, that's what you get when you hire on a guy who actually likes to read history. 3. Thanks, and no prob.
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Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 2:41 pm
I think maybe the humans should have a slightly bigger role then you're giving them. They rarely play a big role in Bleach guilds, so why not start now?
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I think maybe the humans should have a slightly bigger role then you're giving them. They rarely play a big role in Bleach guilds, so why not start now?
It's a good thought and all, but it's difficult to develop an arc with them in a center role, that is, unless you have an idea, if so, I'd like to hear it if you don't mind.
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Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 2:59 pm
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I think maybe the humans should have a slightly bigger role then you're giving them. They rarely play a big role in Bleach guilds, so why not start now?
It's a good thought and all, but it's difficult to develop an arc with them in a center role, that is, unless you have an idea, if so, I'd like to hear it if you don't mind.
Well there are different types of humans. Quincy's and Fullbringer's primarily, so having arcs based around them is not hard at all.
With humans being able to see spirits and such, would that not basically change their beliefs? Religion would be no more. There could be those humans that actually oppose the Shinigami and Soul Society due to their beliefs. It could be a turn of events.
Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 3:07 pm
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I think maybe the humans should have a slightly bigger role then you're giving them. They rarely play a big role in Bleach guilds, so why not start now?
It's a good thought and all, but it's difficult to develop an arc with them in a center role, that is, unless you have an idea, if so, I'd like to hear it if you don't mind.
Well there are different types of humans. Quincy's and Fullbringer's primarily, so having arcs based around them is not hard at all.
With humans being able to see spirits and such, would that not basically change their beliefs? Religion would be no more. There could be those humans that actually oppose the Shinigami and Soul Society due to their beliefs. It could be a turn of events.
Well, with Quincy and Fullbringers it can be difficult, mainly because its a pain to get those two groups filled up at all, just saying. As for the no religion thing, let's not really get into that area, that's a touchy area, at least for me, so let's ignore that idea alright. As for the opposing Shinigami, that idea I actually love, I'd been thinking of something similar for another arc, but you're right, that could actually be perfect for this arc.
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Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 4:04 pm
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I think maybe the humans should have a slightly bigger role then you're giving them. They rarely play a big role in Bleach guilds, so why not start now?
It's a good thought and all, but it's difficult to develop an arc with them in a center role, that is, unless you have an idea, if so, I'd like to hear it if you don't mind.
Well there are different types of humans. Quincy's and Fullbringer's primarily, so having arcs based around them is not hard at all.
With humans being able to see spirits and such, would that not basically change their beliefs? Religion would be no more. There could be those humans that actually oppose the Shinigami and Soul Society due to their beliefs. It could be a turn of events.
Well, with Quincy and Fullbringers it can be difficult, mainly because its a pain to get those two groups filled up at all, just saying. As for the no religion thing, let's not really get into that area, that's a touchy area, at least for me, so let's ignore that idea alright. As for the opposing Shinigami, that idea I actually love, I'd been thinking of something similar for another arc, but you're right, that could actually be perfect for this arc.
There is an option to close profiles for certain species, so that can help fill them up. Especially if arcs are based around them. Hell, we could bring the Bounts back.
Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 4:09 pm
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I think maybe the humans should have a slightly bigger role then you're giving them. They rarely play a big role in Bleach guilds, so why not start now?
It's a good thought and all, but it's difficult to develop an arc with them in a center role, that is, unless you have an idea, if so, I'd like to hear it if you don't mind.
Well there are different types of humans. Quincy's and Fullbringer's primarily, so having arcs based around them is not hard at all.
With humans being able to see spirits and such, would that not basically change their beliefs? Religion would be no more. There could be those humans that actually oppose the Shinigami and Soul Society due to their beliefs. It could be a turn of events.
Well, with Quincy and Fullbringers it can be difficult, mainly because its a pain to get those two groups filled up at all, just saying. As for the no religion thing, let's not really get into that area, that's a touchy area, at least for me, so let's ignore that idea alright. As for the opposing Shinigami, that idea I actually love, I'd been thinking of something similar for another arc, but you're right, that could actually be perfect for this arc.
There is an option to close profiles for certain species, so that can help fill them up. Especially if arcs are based around them. Hell, we could bring the Bounts back.
Haha, man...that's not the issue....its getting people to fill up any of the species. We commonly have trouble getting the manpower period. For example, we can't really shut down the Shinigami profiles until the Captains and Lieutenants are filled, and that's a challenge and they're the most popular! Hollows/Arrancar are normally second most popular. Then we get humans. By the time everything's said and done, and we do the close off, we'd need a minimum of about 36 different characters without including the antagonists in order to force more humans, and that's a challenge.
I think maybe the humans should have a slightly bigger role then you're giving them. They rarely play a big role in Bleach guilds, so why not start now?
It's a good thought and all, but it's difficult to develop an arc with them in a center role, that is, unless you have an idea, if so, I'd like to hear it if you don't mind.
Well there are different types of humans. Quincy's and Fullbringer's primarily, so having arcs based around them is not hard at all.
With humans being able to see spirits and such, would that not basically change their beliefs? Religion would be no more. There could be those humans that actually oppose the Shinigami and Soul Society due to their beliefs. It could be a turn of events.
Well, with Quincy and Fullbringers it can be difficult, mainly because its a pain to get those two groups filled up at all, just saying. As for the no religion thing, let's not really get into that area, that's a touchy area, at least for me, so let's ignore that idea alright. As for the opposing Shinigami, that idea I actually love, I'd been thinking of something similar for another arc, but you're right, that could actually be perfect for this arc.
There is an option to close profiles for certain species, so that can help fill them up. Especially if arcs are based around them. Hell, we could bring the Bounts back.
Haha, man...that's not the issue....its getting people to fill up any of the species. We commonly have trouble getting the manpower period. For example, we can't really shut down the Shinigami profiles until the Captains and Lieutenants are filled, and that's a challenge and they're the most popular! Hollows/Arrancar are normally second most popular. Then we get humans. By the time everything's said and done, and we do the close off, we'd need a minimum of about 36 different characters without including the antagonists in order to force more humans, and that's a challenge.
You have a really strong point, man its going to be a pain trying to fill up that line up. Not to mention, rping as a basic human might get boring because you'd have to give them a ordinary life. Though with things going off balance what if people began to change O.o due to the scale of life and death being tipped :O
Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 7:29 am
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You don't need those spots filled up. Especially with the Espada. The Espada aren't even necessary for this in my opinion. Same with Lieutenants.
You don't need those spots filled up. Especially with the Espada. The Espada aren't even necessary for this in my opinion. Same with Lieutenants.
Trust me they will be needed for Part 2 of this which actually will be the most chaos out of the two. Basically look at this arc like this This is the Opening to another Arc of Chaos.
