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Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 9:48 pm
Hey all,
As I have mentioned before, this is my first foray into IV and nature breeding of pokemon. While I am still trying to get access to a Ditto Safari (I have one confirmed friendlist with it, but we've not synced times to access the third pokemon) I have to work on what I do have for now.... I have an Eevee safari.
I have initially tried everstoning the nature to both parents and then tried using destiny knots and power items to breed for IVs. However once the everstone was out of the equation, I lost the nature. I am now however producing on average of 1 5IV egg per breeding run from a 5IV male and 4IV female with knot and power item. I am hoping to eventually hit on a 5IV/IV female or a 6IV male to switch in.... And then start trying to splice in natures.
I am trying to work out which natures work best with each different eeveelution. I was looking at speed natures like Hasty and Jolly but would love some advice on this and the breeding method I am currently using.
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Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 10:09 pm
The way to do it is just with the everstone and destiny knot; the power item is superfluous here as you can easily get the stat you want in one or two more batches of eggs, whereas it's harder to get the nature you want since there are more natures than there are stats.
The natures for eeveelutions are very dependent on what role they'll play. Espeon and Jolteon are better off being Timid to try and win speed battles since they are pretty frail, whereas impish might be better for an Umbreon if you're going for a mixed wall. If the eeveelution's speed isn't a 110 or 130 base, then you can go for the offensive nature appropriate to each one (special or physical), or a defensive if that's what you're going for (like a special wall Sylveon would be good as Calm for the sp.def, or you could go for modest if you want a specially-bulky attacker). I would suggest to go ahead and start breeding Wish onto eevee as early as possible to get that out of the way.
What I usually do is that I breed for nature and ability first, then once I obtain a female with that combination, I start adding in males that have good IVs, switching out the female every time I get one with the same ability that has better IVs. Of course, I have males from pretty much every egg group with 5-6 maxed IVs now, so it's a bit easier. I have to say, eevee is a bit of a hard one to start with, what with that low female to male ratio. It's always easier when that ratio is in favor of females. Vulpix was a particularly easy breed.
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Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 2:17 am
Thanks. So far I am averaging 1-2 5IV pokes a batch with 1-2 females. I'm trying to spit out a 6IV poke and then cross in nature.
I seem to have screwed up on egg moves however. I was originally splicing in syncronoise, but that eventually dissipated. So I am not sure why that one fell off. Also..... What makes wish so desireable?
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Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 12:11 pm
Kakadesu Thanks. So far I am averaging 1-2 5IV pokes a batch with 1-2 females. I'm trying to spit out a 6IV poke and then cross in nature. I seem to have screwed up on egg moves however. I was originally splicing in syncronoise, but that eventually dissipated. So I am not sure why that one fell off. Also..... What makes wish so desireable? wish is great for a few of the eeveelutions, such as Umbreon, Vaporeon, and Sylveon as both reliable recovery (especally when paired with Protect) and the ability to heal team mates or mitigate the damage they might take on a switch-in. It's particularly good since it heals damage equal to half of the users max HP, so the eeveelutions I mentioned above can heal a large chunk of lower-hp pokemon's hp. It's also just a better option than Moonlight or Morning Sun since Wish has 10 pp and those other moves only have 5. It can keep an opponent guessing since they don't know if you're going to protect or switch after using wish, making it a good mind-game move; if they predict the switch and try to attack but you potect, they waste their turn and rack up toxic damage while you go back up. If you switch and they took a turn to boost rather than attack, one of your weakened pokemon is suddenly back in the game. If a pokemon learns a movee by leveling up, it forgets other moves. When breeding moves, you have to withdraw them every few levels and put the moves you want in the lowest move slot so as not to lose it
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Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 3:37 pm
Ah, so that burst of levels 1-12 could have killed them off.
Is there a way I can easily resplice in the wish without resetting the whole program?
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Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 4:21 pm
Kakadesu Ah, so that burst of levels 1-12 could have killed them off. Is there a way I can easily resplice in the wish without resetting the whole program? What Pokemon do you currently have in the Daycare?
Also, do you still have any of the babies with the egg move Wish? Usually, a good way to build up the stats is to switch out the parent for one of the offspring with higher/more desirable IVs to further the process of hatching more quality Pokemon.
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Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:23 am
I have some babies with wish, if you want them. Natures range from Impish, Jolly, or Timid. 4-5 IVs. Eevees definitely took me the longest out of any of my breeding projects. I could try to also get the hidden ability on them, but that's not guaranteed and I don't have any babies with Wish and the hidden ability currently so I would have to breed them.
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Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 3:44 pm
Hunter of the dusk I have some babies with wish, if you want them. Natures range from Impish, Jolly, or Timid. 4-5 IVs. Eevees definitely took me the longest out of any of my breeding projects. I could try to also get the hidden ability on them, but that's not guaranteed and I don't have any babies with Wish and the hidden ability currently so I would have to breed them. That would be super appreciated if you could spare one with 4-5 with Wish, it wouldn't set me back as far. Well for the tanks anyway. My current program seems to be fine for my glass cannons. Kyrenx Kakadesu Ah, so that burst of levels 1-12 could have killed them off. Is there a way I can easily resplice in the wish without resetting the whole program? What Pokemon do you currently have in the Daycare?
Also, do you still have any of the babies with the egg move Wish? Usually, a good way to build up the stats is to switch out the parent for one of the offspring with higher/more desirable IVs to further the process of hatching more quality Pokemon.I had a 5IV male (H/A/D/SpD/S) with an off nature and a 4IV Female, (D/SpA/SpD/S) again off nature as I am trying to get a stock 6IV to cross with. I have half a box of other 5IV pokes, 14 male and 1 female. My other female has everything except SpD and is bold. I have one timid 5IV male with everything except defence. I suspect that one will be a jolteon. Otherwise my males are just a mish mash of offcuts.
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Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 4:17 pm
Kakadesu Kyrenx Kakadesu Ah, so that burst of levels 1-12 could have killed them off. Is there a way I can easily resplice in the wish without resetting the whole program? What Pokemon do you currently have in the Daycare?
Also, do you still have any of the babies with the egg move Wish? Usually, a good way to build up the stats is to switch out the parent for one of the offspring with higher/more desirable IVs to further the process of hatching more quality Pokemon.I had a 5IV male (H/A/D/SpD/S) with an off nature and a 4IV Female, (D/SpA/SpD/S) again off nature as I am trying to get a stock 6IV to cross with. I have half a box of other 5IV pokes, 14 male and 1 female. My other female has everything except SpD and is bold. I have one timid 5IV male with everything except defence. I suspect that one will be a jolteon. Otherwise my males are just a mish mash of offcuts. I was just suggesting using one of the offspring as a switch-in to reintroduce Wish back into the breeding process. Though you really should be working on getting the nature first and then breeding for the IVs from there. It will save a lot of headaches later as unless you have a high IV Pokemon with the nature you want already, introducing the nature may set you back on IVs again.
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Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 3:52 pm
I'll see about breeding you one tonight while I'm at work
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Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 3:05 pm
Thanks you two.
I've got a 5IV Timid that I am earmarking for Jolteon and a 5IV bold I'm earmarking for Vaporeon.... But I suppose that one should have wish on it. Natures I am not so worries about with resplicing in given the boxes of 4-5IV eevees I have currently and that I am still trying to RNG out that 6th IV.
I've now got a 5 IV female which I am using a destiny knot on and crossing that with a male with everstone for natures.
If we can time a trade that would be awesome. I am +9.5GMT at the moment. So if we can't time it, I can always look at splicing something in somewhere.
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Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 4:04 pm
Kakadesu Thanks you two. I've got a 5IV Timid that I am earmarking for Jolteon and a 5IV bold I'm earmarking for Vaporeon.... But I suppose that one should have wish on it. Natures I am not so worries about with resplicing in given the boxes of 4-5IV eevees I have currently and that I am still trying to RNG out that 6th IV. I've now got a 5 IV female which I am using a destiny knot on and crossing that with a male with everstone for natures. If we can time a trade that would be awesome. I am +9.5GMT at the moment. So if we can't time it, I can always look at splicing something in somewhere. Probably the next question would be what time(s) are you available? If Hunter isn't able to help you out, I may have a 4 or 5 IV Eevee with Wish, Curse and Fake Tears you could have.
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Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 5:11 pm
Kyrenx Kakadesu Thanks you two. I've got a 5IV Timid that I am earmarking for Jolteon and a 5IV bold I'm earmarking for Vaporeon.... But I suppose that one should have wish on it. Natures I am not so worries about with resplicing in given the boxes of 4-5IV eevees I have currently and that I am still trying to RNG out that 6th IV. I've now got a 5 IV female which I am using a destiny knot on and crossing that with a male with everstone for natures. If we can time a trade that would be awesome. I am +9.5GMT at the moment. So if we can't time it, I can always look at splicing something in somewhere. Probably the next question would be what time(s) are you available? If Hunter isn't able to help you out, I may have a 4 or 5 IV Eevee with Wish, Curse and Fake Tears you could have.Sorry I am 10.5GMT at the moment. Daylight savings time here in South Australia. Time wise. Well.... I generally am tapped into my WiFi between about 9pm and 12 pm most nights, though I can be on any time between waking up nd midnight on a day off. For example if have days off today and tomorrow. I am working saturday/sunday but I then will be around monday and tuesday next week. I work a rotating roster.
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Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 3:19 pm
I've managed to obtain a Togepi, which I understand gets Wish at Lv 29. From there i believe I can cross that with a Skitty and then cross that onto an Eevee to get Wish Eevees.
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Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 4:59 pm
Kakadesu I've managed to obtain a Togepi, which I understand gets Wish at Lv 29. From there i believe I can cross that with a Skitty and then cross that onto an Eevee to get Wish Eevees. Taking Smeargle into a double battle at that 1 star cafe and having it Sketch Wish and whatever other moves you want Eevee to learn is usually how I go about it. pirate
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