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Naruki Otaka

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:15 am


So, I've been curious since i'm slightly new to this aquarium stuff. I noticed that alot of the more..high gold output fish are INCREDIBLY expensive for just one fish, so do they pay for themselves or something? I know that they output more gold thus making more gold but can it really overlap how much they spend on the fish itself?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:28 am


Naruki Otaka
So, I've been curious since i'm slightly new to this aquarium stuff. I noticed that alot of the more..high gold output fish are INCREDIBLY expensive for just one fish, so do they pay for themselves or something? I know that they output more gold thus making more gold but can it really overlap how much they spend on the fish itself?


I am not sure how to answer your current question but I have a very nice and well organized user-thread to share with you that may answer many more of your questions (suggesting you read date 2-27-12 forward first)....

Here
 


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 4:07 pm


Ah the thread really didn't help me much.
But to put it simply, I just want to know that if I (for example) chose to get a full tank of say dolphins, which going off market price is like 1m, would I even be able to make back that much money in the lifespan of my tank?

It honestly doesn't seem like you can make money off of tanks with market prices so ******** right now.

Currently doing a full tank of witch doctors, since it's cheap and I can make the money back fairly quick. Though it wouldn't be ideal in the least bit to keep using witch doctors.
PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 4:43 pm


Naruki Otaka
Ah the thread really didn't help me much.
But to put it simply, I just want to know that if I (for example) chose to get a full tank of say dolphins, which going off market price is like 1m, would I even be able to make back that much money in the lifespan of my tank?

It honestly doesn't seem like you can make money off of tanks with market prices so ******** right now.

Currently doing a full tank of witch doctors, since it's cheap and I can make the money back fairly quick. Though it wouldn't be ideal in the least bit to keep using witch doctors.


Hello, There were studies done at least a year ago or two in which they came up with a pretty good idea of what the turn-around was on the fish. However, with me just coming back to a market inflation about "triple" what it was - those stats do not really apply now.

I used to have my tank full of dolphins before the Enkis were really popular and it was hard for me to get my gold back due to not being that popular. However, there were more popular tanks of dolphins that could make their gold back and a profit a while back.

What I have noticed, just bumping and grabbing recently, is a lot of people are not playing BG like they used to thus not getting as much attention.

I can only guess for you - you can go to your settings to ask for a daily PM telling you how much your tank was used in BG and see if you get the max amount of plays per day. Only you would be able to know if your tank receives enough BG plays per day.

These tiny witch doctors probably do make their gold back... However, the more red, blue, and green gold your fish drop increases the amount of gold produced along with how many glow at a time in addition to happy fish vs. unhappy fish. You would have to consider all 3 ideas when planning on which would be best for you along with the price of fish. The middle ground is a good idea to play it safe, how many glow at the same time; as well as some dropping gold mixed with some throwing up gold. When you consider Enki vs. Dolphins, you might consider how much you get from Enki Catches and Fish Drops on top of the daily plays.

I am far from an expert... As you can see, there are many variables to consider and I wish you the best in finding your Yin Yang on a great and impressive tank! gaia_kittenstar
 


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 12:46 pm


Hun if I'm not mistaken, the only thing influenced by how happy your fish are is the tank overseers daily prize. The happier they are the bigger the prize. Happy or unhappy does not influence how much they drop. How much they drop is only influenced according to what kind of fish they are. The thread you linked to is an awesome guide to which fish is dropping what. Thanks for that link!
PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 1:06 pm


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Hun if I'm not mistaken, the only thing influenced by how happy your fish are is the tank overseers daily prize. The happier they are the bigger the prize. Happy or unhappy does not influence how much they drop. How much they drop is only influenced according to what kind of fish they are. The thread you linked to is an awesome guide to which fish is dropping what. Thanks for that link!


Another member in the Guild posted a really nice Guide in another Thread similar to this question smile

As for happiness, maybe I'm wrong, but I thought that if you fed your fish daily it affected the increases / de-creasers... It appears to me, if I do not feed my fish daily, the de-creasers come out more often but again, maybe I'm wrong...  


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 1:12 pm


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Hun if I'm not mistaken, the only thing influenced by how happy your fish are is the tank overseers daily prize. The happier they are the bigger the prize. Happy or unhappy does not influence how much they drop. How much they drop is only influenced according to what kind of fish they are. The thread you linked to is an awesome guide to which fish is dropping what. Thanks for that link!


Another member in the Guild posted a really nice Guide in another Thread similar to this question smile

As for happiness, maybe I'm wrong, but I thought that if you fed your fish daily it affected the increases / de-creasers... It appears to me, if I do not feed my fish daily, the de-creasers come out more often but again, maybe I'm wrong...


Yes, feeding your fish every day increases happiness in a new tank but once you reach 100 per cent happiness it will never decrease not even if you never feed them gain. My fish happiness is stuck at full for years even if I don't feed them though it is nice to get the overseers prize. Hmm...that is an interesting theory you have about decreasers. I will test that on my tank over the next week.
PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 1:16 pm


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Hun if I'm not mistaken, the only thing influenced by how happy your fish are is the tank overseers daily prize. The happier they are the bigger the prize. Happy or unhappy does not influence how much they drop. How much they drop is only influenced according to what kind of fish they are. The thread you linked to is an awesome guide to which fish is dropping what. Thanks for that link!


Another member in the Guild posted a really nice Guide in another Thread similar to this question smile

As for happiness, maybe I'm wrong, but I thought that if you fed your fish daily it affected the increases / de-creasers... It appears to me, if I do not feed my fish daily, the de-creasers come out more often but again, maybe I'm wrong...


Yes, feeding your fish every day increases happiness in a new tank but once you reach 100 per cent happiness it will never decrease not even if you never feed them gain. My fish happiness is stuck at full for years even if I don't feed them though it is nice to get the overseers prize. Hmm...that is an interesting theory you have about decreasers. I will test that on my tank over the next week.


Oh, My, we were talking about different types of happiness... So sorry, when I said "happiness" I was thinking about setting the attributes at the bottom and feeding fish but when you said it, you were talking about the Tank Health - I am so sorry for the confusion ^_^ Let me know what you come up with on your test - I'm curious how it dies affect other people 4laugh

I do over-analyze a lot xd
 


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 1:23 pm


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Hun if I'm not mistaken, the only thing influenced by how happy your fish are is the tank overseers daily prize. The happier they are the bigger the prize. Happy or unhappy does not influence how much they drop. How much they drop is only influenced according to what kind of fish they are. The thread you linked to is an awesome guide to which fish is dropping what. Thanks for that link!


Another member in the Guild posted a really nice Guide in another Thread similar to this question smile

As for happiness, maybe I'm wrong, but I thought that if you fed your fish daily it affected the increases / de-creasers... It appears to me, if I do not feed my fish daily, the de-creasers come out more often but again, maybe I'm wrong...


Yes, feeding your fish every day increases happiness in a new tank but once you reach 100 per cent happiness it will never decrease not even if you never feed them gain. My fish happiness is stuck at full for years even if I don't feed them though it is nice to get the overseers prize. Hmm...that is an interesting theory you have about decreasers. I will test that on my tank over the next week.


Oh, My, we were talking about different types of happiness... So sorry, when I said "happiness" I was thinking about setting the attributes at the bottom and feeding fish but when you said it, you were talking about the Tank Health - I am so sorry for the confusion ^_^ Let me know what you come up with on your test - I'm curious how it dies affect other people 4laugh

I do over-analyze a lot xd


Still though that is a really good point. I will have to pay hard attention to my tank first by not visiting to feed them, then checking what gets dropped by using mules then after a week I will log in and feed them every day and use mules again to see if there are any changes. I think I may have done this years ago but I forgot the result. XD Anyway it feels familiar LOL! So unless I have a doctors appointment I may have to skip a few hours that day.
PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 2:15 pm


Naruki Otaka
So, I've been curious since i'm slightly new to this aquarium stuff. I noticed that alot of the more..high gold output fish are INCREDIBLY expensive for just one fish, so do they pay for themselves or something? I know that they output more gold thus making more gold but can it really overlap how much they spend on the fish itself?


You had a really nice glow just now but I had no way to bump your tank so others could play because your bump thread is not in your signature. You really need one there if you want to get as many players as possible.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 7:30 pm


Naruki Otaka
So, I've been curious since i'm slightly new to this aquarium stuff. I noticed that alot of the more..high gold output fish are INCREDIBLY expensive for just one fish, so do they pay for themselves or something? I know that they output more gold thus making more gold but can it really overlap how much they spend on the fish itself?

If you get low-trigger fish such as jellyfish they will pay for themselves with just one or so player per day thanks to the first 5 player bonus that gives both you and the player 500 extra gold over the grabbed amount.
High trigger fish does not pay for themselves at all with the current mp prices. The only way to earn gold is to either be a low-trigger tank owner, only grab or buy fish for GC. neutral
PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:41 pm


Naruki Otaka
So, I've been curious since i'm slightly new to this aquarium stuff. I noticed that alot of the more..high gold output fish are INCREDIBLY expensive for just one fish, so do they pay for themselves or something? I know that they output more gold thus making more gold but can it really overlap how much they spend on the fish itself?


In my opinion.. no, they do not profit. I don't even think they bring in as much gold as you would spend on them.. seeing as how there are not as many players as there used to be. Getting say 3-13 (give or take) players a game and the lifespan of whatever fish you buy and the price you buy them at you will definitely not make enough to pay for what you spent.

For example.. lets take Giant Stone Cotal, not the most expensive but a very expensive popular one. The lowest priced GST in the marketplace right now is 1,850,000 gaia_gaiagold .
1,850,000 x 17 [for a full tank] = 31,450,000 ... ridiculous.
Ok lets move down the list to a cheaper mini monster who still puts out a good game, the Katsumi's Kokeshi Doll which just went up again and the lowest MP price is 115,000 gaia_gaiagold .
115000 x 17 = 1,955,000. Closer to being likely but.. still..

Anyways say you get a tank full of monsters that live 4 weeks.. so 28 days.. and you earn 60,000 gaia_gaiagold a day from your glows (which seems to me impossible bc not enough people play anymore but maybe its bc I don't have a Grade A tank) ... per 28 days
60,000 x 28 = 1,680,000.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:30 pm


After Bumping and Grabbing for a while now, since I have came back on Gaia, I may consider going back to my blue dolphins or a mix of them with the monsters after my Enki die. I'm not positive what I will do exactly but in deep consideration ^_^  
PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 12:08 am


I can't look inside people's wallet, and I don't want to promote GaiaCash, but if you can afford it there is always the option to buy fish with GaiaCash.
I always buy my dolphins with GaiaCash, they live 4 months so I have to spend some real money only 3 times a year, and I don't have to worry for them to be profitable or not (in gold terms).

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 12:35 am


Naruki Otaka
Ah the thread really didn't help me much.
But to put it simply, I just want to know that if I (for example) chose to get a full tank of say dolphins, which going off market price is like 1m, would I even be able to make back that much money in the lifespan of my tank?

It honestly doesn't seem like you can make money off of tanks with market prices so ******** right now.

Currently doing a full tank of witch doctors, since it's cheap and I can make the money back fairly quick. Though it wouldn't be ideal in the least bit to keep using witch doctors.


At 20k for a mid-lvl fish which is no longer true you needed about 10 plays a day to break even which even in this hard time is still possible. Now when they bumped up to 30k a fish its was about 15 plays a day....Your witch Dr, Which i am thinking about going back too need only 12 plays a day to break even
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