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 Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 1:48 am
Okay so I'm pretty damn sure we have ALL done everything possible for DA:O every choice of words said to followers,every possible ending ect ect.(I would really like this conversation to continue more than three posts,Mages are my thing) I just want to count hands on how many people have killed Connor and preferred to kill Connor instead of dealing with Jowan or the circle(because seriously screw that noise) also I would like to know how many people knew that Eamon and Isolde conceived a new child and named her Rowan after his sister and late queen of Ferelden and Mother to King Cailian,but Isolde died during childbirth and Rowan ended up being a mage and Eamon sent her to the circle. Or allowing Isolde to murder her own son (links will be posted below to watch) WHICH by the way I HAVE NEVER DONE and I also don't know if it is modded or not Me personally I kill Connor,though I know that there is always a way to save that child,but Connor is a special case for me as to why I slaughter him and knock his B-tch mother of his out. Connor being a mage and Isolde hiring Jowan JOWAN of all people to train her son even though she should have known an apostate is not someone to trust.(I know it goes against my feelings towards Anders,but he is also different) Connor being able to make a deal with a demon at his age brought serious attention to me. The chances of Jowan teaching Connor dark magic (aka Blood magic duh xD) is likely,but I kinda SORTA believe Jowan confession about not teaching Connor magic like that. Connor having the ability to make a deal/possessed by a demon is something I don't think/believe that a child at the ROUGH estimated age of 9 could possibly do such a deal unless he was something more powerful like a Dreamer like Feynriel. Part one: http://youtu.be/RZPvuCIEbfEPart two: http://youtu.be/gQJLwLqSQ1U
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Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 3:08 am
I always save Connor, I cant bring myself to kill a kid (even a virtual one) and in DAI if turns out to be a bad guy i'll gut him then because he would most likely be in his late teens early twenties by then (i'm guessing). I don't kill the dreamer kid either(not anymore anyway) and again if he turns out to be a bad guy, I'll gut him in DAI.
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Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 7:59 pm
ButterFlyCross89 I always save Connor, I cant bring myself to kill a kid (even a virtual one) and in DAI if turns out to be a bad guy i'll gut him then because he would most likely be in his late teens early twenties by then (i'm guessing). I don't kill the dreamer kid either(not anymore anyway) and again if he turns out to be a bad guy, I'll gut him in DAI. I kill Connor because I fear that even with the circle's help he could still be possessed later on in life basically saying we just made the demon lay dormant inside of him. I give Feynriel what he asks for and surprisingly Anders doesn't freak out when I do that instead of sending him to the Imperium.
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Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:07 pm
I don't like the idea of killing a child, real or not. I hated Conner's mother for hiring an apostate, one she knew nothing about, to teach her son. She herself knew nothing of what mages deal with. I believe Anders said so himself in DA2 how hard it was for mages to get a proper education outside the circle. All she knew was that they were going to take her son away. That's it. I don't think Jowan taught Conner any 'dark' magic, but neglected to make it clear to Conner that all demons were dangerous and making a deal with one can only cause suffering. I have had a play through, where I killed Conner, I didn't know they would have another child, and I regretted it. I still dislike his mother. I understand she didn't want her son taken away, but she very irresponsible about it. It got her husband on his death bed, which caused her son to be willing enough to do anything to help his father. That was why I felt the boy was worth saving and one play through I let her die. She might not have deserved to die, but she did so to save her son, which was one of the few redeeming qualities she had in my eyes.
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Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:51 pm
Vir Adahlen ButterFlyCross89 I always save Connor, I cant bring myself to kill a kid (even a virtual one) and in DAI if turns out to be a bad guy i'll gut him then because he would most likely be in his late teens early twenties by then (i'm guessing). I don't kill the dreamer kid either(not anymore anyway) and again if he turns out to be a bad guy, I'll gut him in DAI. I kill Connor because I fear that even with the circle's help he could still be possessed later on in life basically saying we just made the demon lay dormant inside of him. I give Feynriel what he asks for and surprisingly Anders doesn't freak out when I do that instead of sending him to the Imperium. you can get the demon out of connor, you don't have to leave it dormant and any mage is at risk of possession weather its by a demon or spirit.
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Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:14 pm
ButterFlyCross89 Vir Adahlen ButterFlyCross89 I always save Connor, I cant bring myself to kill a kid (even a virtual one) and in DAI if turns out to be a bad guy i'll gut him then because he would most likely be in his late teens early twenties by then (i'm guessing). I don't kill the dreamer kid either(not anymore anyway) and again if he turns out to be a bad guy, I'll gut him in DAI. I kill Connor because I fear that even with the circle's help he could still be possessed later on in life basically saying we just made the demon lay dormant inside of him. I give Feynriel what he asks for and surprisingly Anders doesn't freak out when I do that instead of sending him to the Imperium. you can get the demon out of connor, you don't have to leave it dormant and any mage is at risk of possession weather its by a demon or spirit. I don't believe anyone who has been or currently possessed stays unpossessed for the remainder of their life-time. I think in Connor's case whether you use the Circle or Blood Magic to free the demon from Connor,but I don't think someone from the waking world can kill an demon unless the demon walked in the waking world(killing Connor). I think mortals weakens the demon and they change the fade. (basically vanishing from that mortals killing blow) There is the possibility of your Warden allowing the Demons to return __ years later in Connor's life, if you don't chose to kill it right off the bat.
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Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 10:47 pm
Sunny_blue_shy I don't like the idea of killing a child, real or not. I hated Conner's mother for hiring an apostate, one she knew nothing about, to teach her son. She herself knew nothing of what mages deal with. I believe Anders said so himself in DA2 how hard it was for mages to get a proper education outside the circle. All she knew was that they were going to take her son away. That's it. I don't think Jowan taught Conner any 'dark' magic, but neglected to make it clear to Conner that all demons were dangerous and making a deal with one can only cause suffering. I have had a play through, where I killed Conner, I didn't know they would have another child, and I regretted it. I still dislike his mother. I understand she didn't want her son taken away, but she very irresponsible about it. It got her husband on his death bed, which caused her son to be willing enough to do anything to help his father. That was why I felt the boy was worth saving and one play through I let her die. She might not have deserved to die, but she did so to save her son, which was one of the few redeeming qualities she had in my eyes. I'm very suspicious about Jowan all together we all know what he did to escape the circle not saying Anders is any better,bot Anders never used blood magic on Templars who opposed him unlike Jowan. Let alone the fact Jowan being sent by Loghain to poison Eamon using his tutoring over Connor to complete his mission. Jowan was/is a circle mage and the first thing they learn about is the danger of demons and the difference between a spirit and a demon..Anders makes it very clear that it is a lesson drilled into every mages skull. Jowan may have neglected the lesson about demons,but then again Jowan could have also lied when he said he didn't teach Connor 'dark' magic and getting Connor possessed may have given him a better deal with Loghain if Redcliffe's only hire was to die or be discovered. If there is one character in all of Dragon Age I hate it's Isolde..As much as I dislike Alistair what she forced Eamon to do to Alistair was messed up even if she didn't/did know about him being Maric's b*****d. She also allowed outside help from an apostate to teach her son and from the over all surroundings of Redcliffe I think she is a believer of the Maker. Her losing her son then dying during childbirth of her second satisfies me more then allowing blood magic to be used by the could/would be reason behind all of this.
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Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 1:22 am
It's kinda unfair to kill a kid who had no choice to what happened to him. It's not his fault that his mother is an idiot and hires Jowan, a blood mage to try and apprentice him. It's also not his fault that he got possessed, which is a risk that most mages have. You do have a choice of going into the fade and killing the demon with the help of circle, which I think is the best solution. You may argue that there's a risk in doing this but there's also a chance that there isn't. So it's a bit cruel to kill a kid over something that might happen.
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Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 10:54 pm
Moonlight Resonance It's kinda unfair to kill a kid who had no choice to what happened to him. It's not his fault that his mother is an idiot and hires Jowan, a blood mage to try and apprentice him. It's also not his fault that he got possessed, which is a risk that most mages have. You do have a choice of going into the fade and killing the demon with the help of circle, which I think is the best solution. You may argue that there's a risk in doing this but there's also a chance that there isn't. So it's a bit cruel to kill a kid over something that might happen. I started doing after I did every option for getting Shale as a companion from the village,where Amelia ran off and met "kitty" and how there is really no good out come release a demon into the world or allow a child to be possessed and walk free.(those could also only be the options I've been given) I find it odd Connor has no memory of being possessed,though during his possession he is clearly in pain and the demon when in control act very child-like..Like making Tegan a jester...I've read Asunder and even the demon possessed Spoiler Tranquil has memories of being possessed,which is why I don't think Connor is completely free of the demon it...She is just dormant waiting for him to become more powerful.
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