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PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 6:46 pm


Why do Christians get divorced at the same rate as non-Christians?
Christians get married in front of God and their Christian friends, all of whom are praying to God for the marriage to succeed. And then they say, "What God has put together, let no man put asunder." God is all-powerful, so if God has put two people together that should seal the deal, right? Yet Christians get divorced at the same rate as everyone else.
Explain.
PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 2:19 pm


Laziness. They don't feel like putting in the work. If God tells people not to divorce over stupid crap and they do it anyway that's not His fault.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 7:39 am


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Agree with 1st post. Lack of effort runs rampant. I think part of the problem is Christians [not all, but many] are taking the same approach to marriage as any worldly couple. When things get boring they stop trying to keep it interesting and don't know what to do. What a lot of couples don't consider is that marriage counseling isn't just a last resort for already crumbling marriages. Reaching out for help isn't something to be ashamed of when you've hit a brick wall in your relationship. And so it just gets to the point that they lose the love and separate.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 11:28 am


I'd imagine Christians probably have the same reasons for getting divorced as non-Christians.

People as a whole, regardless of faith, tend to not really think rationally or practically in matters of love and romance. It's not really difficult to understand why if you've ever been in love. Especially within the first couple years of a romantic relationship, it's very easy and very common to think that you'll feel exactly the same way about your romantic partner for your entire life. The feelings you have are so strong and intense that you can't really imagine those feelings changing.

I think the two biggest reasons for divorce are getting married too early in a relationship, and/or not being willing (or not knowing how) to put the work and effort into the relationship once the newness and excitement wears off. That new, exciting relationship feeling (often called the "honeymoon stage") can last for up to two years, so I think it's smart to be with someone for longer than that before making a lifelong commitment to them.

Also, I feel like a lot of Christians have a view of marriage that doesn't necessarily do any favours when it comes to maintaining a relationship. This idea that being married to someone is so vastly different from just being in a committed long-term relationship, or that the act of getting married is going to be the glue that holds you together...that's just not true. Your love and commitment needs to exist before getting married. Marriage is not going to make you or your partner's feelings any stronger. It's not going to fix a flawed relationship. If you feel like you need marriage for your romantic relationship to be real and true and long-lasting, that's probably a sign that you shouldn't be getting married at all.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 3:05 pm


I don't think the world is "black and white" especially among Christianity. Just because people are Christians doesn't mean they're perfect. The problem with churches (at least many I've attended) is that they push you to marry right away. So many of the friends I made in college who went to a certain church I used to attend, dated for 2 months and then got married. The church pushed them to, but I hated this, because do you really know someone after 2 months? It's also the saving-yourself-for-marriage part of it, where they marry fast so they can finally have sex. Idk of the divorce rate for these people I knew, but I feel like that can have a big impact on your marriage, the fact that you never really knew them to begin with.
PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 10:09 am


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I don't think the world is "black and white" especially among Christianity. Just because people are Christians doesn't mean they're perfect. The problem with churches (at least many I've attended) is that they push you to marry right away. So many of the friends I made in college who went to a certain church I used to attend, dated for 2 months and then got married. The church pushed them to, but I hated this, because do you really know someone after 2 months? It's also the saving-yourself-for-marriage part of it, where they marry fast so they can finally have sex. Idk of the divorce rate for these people I knew, but I feel like that can have a big impact on your marriage, the fact that you never really knew them to begin with.
You bring up some good points.

I've noticed that there is a significant amount of pressure for adult couples to get married within church congregations. There seems to be this idea among many Christians that the only purpose of romantic relationships is for them to pave the way to marriage. "If you can't see yourself marrying him/her, then why are you still waisting your time with them?" Or "If you do see yourself marrying that person, why would you put off marrying them?"

But the fact is, most relationships just don't really work that way. It's rarely so black-and-white, where you know within a few weeks or months if you want to spend the rest of your life with a person. That's just not realistic for most people. It's okay to be romantically involved with someone not knowing if you want to marry them. That's kind of the point of pre-marital relationships: to learn through experience what works for you and what doesn't, and ultimately, to cultivate a strong, healthy relationship with your spouse before getting married to them.

And yeah, I'm sure there are plenty of people (I'd assume generally young people) who rush into marriage just because they're in a hurry to make virginity a thing of the past. And I have all sorts of problems with the concept of virginity and its role in society...but that's another rant for another time.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 5:58 am


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Why do Christians get divorced at the same rate as non-Christians?
Christians get married in front of God and their Christian friends, all of whom are praying to God for the marriage to succeed. And then they say, "What God has put together, let no man put asunder." God is all-powerful, so if God has put two people together that should seal the deal, right? Yet Christians get divorced at the same rate as everyone else.
Explain.


1) Those who claim to be Christian may or may not really be Christian.

Matthew 7:21-23 (KJV)
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Just because someone claims a label doesn't make it true.

2) Just because they get married 'before God and country' so to speak doesn't mean that God has any part in the relationship. If He has no part in the relationship and no part in the lives of those involved in the relationship it is just a union of two people.

Marriage is an institution of God since He created the world. He has clearly defined all its requirements, and has purposed that it literally be until death. Marriage is a clear picture of His desired relationship to the Church. He is the bridegroom and the Church is the Bride. Do you really think that once He marries His Bride that He'll leave her for any reason?

There is no clearer testimony to this then this:
Ephesians 5:21-33 (KJV)
21 Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God. 22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. 24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing. 25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; 26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, 27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish. 28 So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself. 29 For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church: 30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones. 31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. 32 This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church. 33 Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband.

This isn't just talking about the sacredness of human relationships, but it is talking about it as a type and shadow of the relationship Christ wants with His Church, His Bride.

If all that is true, then the question is indeed why is 'Christian' divorce rates the same as the worlds? Probably a combination of things said above which is really summed up as follows:

People - even so-called Christians - get married for the wrong reasons. Instead of letting God direct their every step in every area of their lives, they stand up and say, "I can do this on my own." Sometimes it may even work, but mostly it's an utter failure. Those who truly don't fall into that category - in other words they did let God direct them 100% - but still divorce fall into the category of starting the race well but, for whatever reason, letting themselves be distracted by the lies of the enemy and allow themselves to fall into a situation that causes their relationship with their spouse to be irreparable.
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