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Thomatorr Strongpee

PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 11:14 am


My Elves..this is one of the worst pains ever..Ive felt many scars,cuts,blows,and inflictions. But why must we all feel this? Is it simply our primal/animal instincts breaking loose or is it that some of us are obsessed?

I dont know where I was going with this but I just want some advice,should person be jealous? Literally..is jealousy a needed thing? What would things be without this emotion at all?
PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 11:24 am


Oh and who lives my minotaur avi? And who watched Minotaur this weekend on SciFi?

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Cassandra022

PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 1:11 pm


mm, in my opinion all emotions are natural enough. Different people feel different emotions more, depending on personality, circumstances, etc.

Jealousy, I think, is basically wanting something you don't have and possibly can't have. Someone's shirt. Someone's wife. Money. A stroke of good luck. It's tied, fundementally, with that sense of want. Like...I personally very rarely feel a strong sense of jelousy. More often a kind of longing, but...I'm too apathetic to want things. Shirt? Eh, it's nice. Money? eh, have enough. Luck? Eh, not gonna happen. Basically I just dont care enough to be jealous much. Is that a good thing? A matter of perspective, really.

Should a person be jealous? It's like asking should a person be angry, or happy, or frustrated, or sad -- it doesn't matter what you 'should' feel, because you do. Should you act on the emotion? That's another question altogether. You can't control what you feel, much, but you can control how you react. As for how -- again, a matter of perspective.

IMO, no jealousy can be the result of either profound acceptance and satisfaction, or profound resignation and apathy.

Yeah, I'm philosiphizing. Sorry, it's what I do sometimes lol.

The avvie is cool though havent seen the show you're referring to^^
PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 5:52 pm


I don't think anyone can compare, except maybe Xander, to what Cass just said. I also happened to miss Minotaur, though I wished I could have seen it.

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flora_fauna

PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 8:26 pm


I think jealousy is nessesary. Its kinda an odd story...I have a friend whome Ive know for almost 2 years now , and because of a series of events we got together. But I got jealous of him right before we got together seeing him with another girl...and when we got together to hang out he started playing with my hair...you see he had a crush on me for awile now and I tend to act oblivious to these things as not to screw anything up...and when he started playing with my hair of course I blushed and he noticed..so I said as a hint.."u-know your the only friend id let do this..." and then he asked "why?" so I told him I liked him and we got together ^_^.

I think its pretty cool how we got together ^_^ . Not so cool that I needed that jealousy nudge to get a grip and get together with him though... sweatdrop
PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 9:37 pm


Eh, pretty much all of Cass's post is true. I'm just going to add some things.

You must also consider how jealous you can get and how you act upon said jealousy. Like if you see your girl/boyfriend give someone a hug, and you feel a twang, that's normal. If you see the same thing and you go and kick five kinds of s**t out of both of them, that's bad. If you don't feel any at all, that might mean you don't want to continue going out with them. Sometimes jealousy can be a great motivator. If you live like a pig, and your well groomed, polite neighbor gets the ladies, you could get jealous enough to turn your life around.

Jealousy stems from a few things. In far back times, you needed to defend your territory so that you could live off the land. But, couldn't you live better with other people's land too? Why not attack and take both? You and your family would be better off. If you were the leader, and another male started courting/humping one of your females, you had to kick his a** to retain your leadership.

Almost all your emotions have a use. You just need to be able to control those emotions so that they don't rule you, you rule them.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 2:24 pm


Being jealous of something or someone is normal, all humans are, were or will be jealous of something in their lives, but the problem is when people cannot control their jealousy and start to make things that can hurt other people, like bullying. Jealousy is necessary for you to fight for something you don't have and, in a way or another, it actually means that you admire something on someone. Just don't let your jealousy transform you into a mean person.
PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 11:38 am


I agree with all that said above.

I personally get very jealous. I am very materialistic, so I wish I had certain things, and dislike those who have all what I want. Even on Gaia I get jealous. Mostly its the boyfriend thing. I see my ex with a new girl, and gives me that thwang of anger. I think its prefectly normal, but shouldn't be encouraged.

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Thomatorr Strongpee

PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 7:38 pm


moonlight_chii
I agree with all that said above.

I personally get very jealous. I am very materialistic, so I wish I had certain things, and dislike those who have all what I want. Even on Gaia I get jealous. Mostly its the boyfriend thing. I see my ex with a new girl, and gives me that thwang of anger. I think its prefectly normal, but shouldn't be encouraged.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 8:46 am


Yea, I agree with what's been said above. I'm rarely jealous though, lucky me. Whenever I am jealous, I feel like a terrible person for feeling that way. 3nodding

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Sukanar Morrigan

PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 12:39 pm


Thomatorr
My Elves..this is one of the worst pains ever..Ive felt many scars,cuts,blows,and inflictions. But why must we all feel this? Is it simply our primal/animal instincts breaking loose or is it that some of us are obsessed?

I dont know where I was going with this but I just want some advice,should person be jealous? Literally..is jealousy a needed thing? What would things be without this emotion at all?
i dont think jealousy is a needed thing. i dont feel jealousy like ever. and its useless to be jealous. you cant do anythign about it and if you did it is wrong to steal and hurt someone to get it.
PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 9:45 pm


Otaku Slayer Thomas
My Elves..this is one of the worst pains ever..Ive felt many scars,cuts,blows,and inflictions. But why must we all feel this? Is it simply our primal/animal instincts breaking loose or is it that some of us are obsessed?

I dont know where I was going with this but I just want some advice,should person be jealous? Literally..is jealousy a needed thing? What would things be without this emotion at all?


Jealousy is a very natural thing when it's appropriate. When it's appropriate is when you have a claim on what you are being jealous over. Otherwise it's coveting. For example: you may be jealous over whether a man is flirting with your wife. That is good because she is yours. However, if a man is flirting with some girl you like then you shouldn't be jealous because she's not yours. That's just envying the fact that he has her and you don't.

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Sukanar Morrigan

PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2006 9:26 pm


Yeah it does happen and is a natural thing, but we dont need to let it corrupt us.
PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 10:16 am


I think Jealousy is something that occurs with the "nurture" part of our relationship. I am personally very quick to become jealous, and I have tied it to the fact that my mother always pushed me to become competitive. When she pointed out a person who had mad skillz, she would say" See? Why aren;t you like that". And when I knew that there would be no freakin way I could beat that person I tried to bring them down in other ways.
I see this emotion as root to my failures, and whenever I feel jealousy twist my stomach, I repress it as best as I can. Jealousy is a stimulant, but it can't be used more than that without negative consequences.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 1:11 am


This is weird... I agree with everyone on a certain level. I don't think jealousy is a needed thing but it is common. Everyone feels it at least once in there lives wether they wish ti admit it or not. That toy you never had when you were a kid. The girl/boyfriend you don't have. Personally, I get "jealous" when I see a happy couple walking and holding hands or cuddled up in a corner just hugging or something. I put the word jealous in quotations because I don't think it's exactly jealousy I'm feeling. Yes I want what they have but not that exact person. I mostly just want someone to hold and to be able to call my own. I'm happy for the couple and that they found happyness and only wich for the same thing to be able to happen to me. This for me is a very conflicting emotion; I don't want to call it jealousy but then I do. I don't like feeling jealous but it happens... and when it does I feel like crap. What I would have to say is the closest thing I can recall me having that I would say is jealousy would have to be something, in my openion, that is very stupid. I get jealous when I feel left out. For example, while in college I made some new and very close freinds. Two of these friends are going to be moving in an apartment with me in July. Well, we started drinking a lot towards the end of the semester but with me being an art major, I had a ton of projects due the last few weeks of classes while they were just prepairing for finals. They had free time to drink and could skip a few classes if they felt like it while I had to work hard to try and finish all my assignments. I would drink with them but I couldn't drink all the time. When they would drink without me I felt left out and somewhat jealous. One night we were all drinking and I had just gotten off of work so I was about ready to pass out. My friends decided to just go walking aroud campus just because when I went to bed. This bothered me so much that I couldn't sleep and ended up going on my own walk. I tried to figure out why I felt so badly about something so stupid. This was perhaps the worst I have ever felt. In my life I have hardly ever been included in anything. I was always the new kid at a school because I never stayed in one place long enough to really fit in and get close to anyone. Now that I finally had friends that I could talk to and I was close to, I didn't want them doing stuff without me. I wanted to be included in everything. This feeling was so strong that I couldn't sleep, even after my walk that night. I still don't completely understand it. I know why I feel jealous and I know that I shouldn't and why I shouldn't but... I still do. I've even talked about this with my closest friend out of the group and we both know that they don't want to exclude me and they try to get me involved. The only reason I become not involved is because of my own actions, in this case I was very tired and wanted to go to bed. I know I can't expect them to just not do anything if I'm not around. I mean, how selfish of me would that be!!??! I know this was supposed to be trying to help you with your problem and to explain jealousy... sorry that this ended up as more of a rant about my problems and the extent to the confusion of jealousy.
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