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What is an Incarna or Otherkin?

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Sadobitch

PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 4:01 am


(So, I'm going to be brutally honest. I am creating my own forum off of Gaia since Gaia moves so slow and I grow tired of relying on facebook for occult conversations. And.... Spells of Magic has too much idiocy. I am looking for some feed back on how clearly this defines Otherkin/Incarna without having to get into the various categorical details. So, for this post. I don't mind if you break it up into sections since this IS a wall of text.)

When a soul is created. It can come from various sources. If a wolf spirit gets it on with another wolf spirit. You get, a wolf spirit. If this wolf spirit gets incarnated into human form. You get a wolf spirit in a human body, or rather a fraction of a wolf spirit. If an angel gets it on with a demon and they have a child. You get a spirit that is half demon, half angel. If a half demon, half angel, gets it on with a half vampire changeling. You get, a demonic angel vampire changeling. Basically, supernatural entities can create spirits too. Spirits can get incarnated into human bodies. Therefore, not everyone in a human body has a human spirit. The flesh is basically a vessel we use to get around anyways.

Now, sometimes the human body cannot handle the full conscious or power of the spirit it comes from. Think of it like this... You are whole. You send a fraction of yourself into this reality so you can learn more, or for whatever reason. Pick one. As the fraction of yourself grows separately from you, or grows closer to you. Your own conscious as a whole expands. Spirits can be several places at once with different fractions of themselves. If you think about how so many people can talk to the same spirit this makes a lot of sense. Think of how many pathways of consciousness a completely whole spirit must handle at once. This is an excellent example of why a human brain cannot handle the full capacity of some spirits.

Sometimes, you run into role players, delusional people, or those who simply want to belong somewhere. So they take the idea of Otherkin and roll with it until they get so caught up in their own bullshit to the point they believe it themselves and invest an incredible amount of time and energy into getting others to believe their spiritual reality.

These are the people who give those Otherkin with legitimate cases to examine a bad name. It doesn't help when this is hard to prove. It doesn't help when people have angel souls OR when people have souls of spirits there is written text of. It doesn't help when people go around speaking as if they ARE these spirits and should be RESPECTED as such when truly they are simply a fraction of that spirit. However, they are still a part of that spirit.

Also, we don't have anywhere near a complete image or understanding of how the spirit world works. We have ideas though! It is when these various beliefs and ideas clash and get involved with Otherkin that this community of ours looks even more ridiculous. Yet despite all the delusional people, and those trying to make themselves look more important by speaking for a spirit claiming to be that spirit.

There are those who have always had an un-explainable urge to howl at the moon. There are those who have always had tendencies and habits that perfectly mirror the origins of their soul. This is before they are awakened to their Otherkin nature, and happens before they have a clue what's going on. There are those who are haunted by memories in dreams their entire lives without an explanation as to why!

So please... Don't dismiss us. Don't role play. Don't try and make yourself look bigger and badder than you really are. Don't disrespect others for sharing their stories. We're all just trying to find some truth concerning our origins. Could some of us or all of us be wrong? Absolutely. When you've seen evidence your whole life that is very hard to prove constantly reassuring you that you are right about being an Otherkin. It is hard to dismiss the notion. In the same way that once someone tangibly sees a ghost or spirit and knows what they saw. There is no turning back.

Please, respect us. Please, don't give us a bad name. Please, listen to us and make up your own mind from there.

Thank you for your time.
PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 10:13 am


This is my question for otherkin/therians/etc, why does it really matter? You're human now.

Sadobitch
Sometimes, you run into role players, delusional people, or those who simply want to belong somewhere. So they take the idea of Otherkin and roll with it until they get so caught up in their own bullshit to the point they believe it themselves and invest an incredible amount of time and energy into getting others to believe their spiritual reality.

There's even those who could possibly be legit that use this as a crutch to escape reality.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 10:21 am


X-Yami-no-Ko-X
This is my question for otherkin/therians/etc, why does it really matter? You're human now.



Pretty much the same question I have for them.


“Does this hurt? Of course it does, that’s why I’m going to keep doing it.”
PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 4:09 pm


X-Yami-no-Ko-X
This is my question for otherkin/therians/etc, why does it really matter? You're human now.

Sadobitch
Sometimes, you run into role players, delusional people, or those who simply want to belong somewhere. So they take the idea of Otherkin and roll with it until they get so caught up in their own bullshit to the point they believe it themselves and invest an incredible amount of time and energy into getting others to believe their spiritual reality.

There's even those who could possibly be legit that use this as a crutch to escape reality.
Well, it matters because it affects our spiritual and personal reality. We're simply trying to understand what's going on. Those who are legit and use this to escape reality, hadn't thought about that.

Sadobitch


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 11:01 pm


Sadobitch


You know, this fits PERFECTLY with what I think what an otherkin is. Is there a way you can elaborate the whole spirit thing? the part where you say half angel or half vampire souls in human bodies? And how you can tell?
PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 11:24 pm


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Sadobitch


You know, this fits PERFECTLY with what I think what an otherkin is. Is there a way you can elaborate the whole spirit thing? the part where you say half angel or half vampire souls in human bodies? And how you can tell?
How to tell? Now there's a tricky one... Well, if you find dogs have a certain connection with you and you get frisky every full moon. Perhaps you have a canine spirit. Or, you just like the full moons energy and dogs connect with you. You can rely on someone else to help identify what you seek but then you have to be able to trust that person. I don't have an easy answer for that one because having a specific method of figuring out who is what is something I lack information on. I do know that demon kin tend to be particular about smells though. Past that, meditate on it with a non biased mind I guess?

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 10:03 am


Sadobitch
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Sadobitch


You know, this fits PERFECTLY with what I think what an otherkin is. Is there a way you can elaborate the whole spirit thing? the part where you say half angel or half vampire souls in human bodies? And how you can tell?
How to tell? Now there's a tricky one... Well, if you find dogs have a certain connection with you and you get frisky every full moon. Perhaps you have a canine spirit. Or, you just like the full moons energy and dogs connect with you. You can rely on someone else to help identify what you seek but then you have to be able to trust that person. I don't have an easy answer for that one because having a specific method of figuring out who is what is something I lack information on. I do know that demon kin tend to be particular about smells though. Past that, meditate on it with a non biased mind I guess?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 6:29 pm


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Sadobitch
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Sadobitch


You know, this fits PERFECTLY with what I think what an otherkin is. Is there a way you can elaborate the whole spirit thing? the part where you say half angel or half vampire souls in human bodies? And how you can tell?
How to tell? Now there's a tricky one... Well, if you find dogs have a certain connection with you and you get frisky every full moon. Perhaps you have a canine spirit. Or, you just like the full moons energy and dogs connect with you. You can rely on someone else to help identify what you seek but then you have to be able to trust that person. I don't have an easy answer for that one because having a specific method of figuring out who is what is something I lack information on. I do know that demon kin tend to be particular about smells though. Past that, meditate on it with a non biased mind I guess?
I sent you a message, not sure how you'll take it?
I saw the message just barely been able to sit down.

Sadobitch


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 8:22 pm


Heh...I've incarnated as a human 17 times, and I still find humans to be far too complicated for me...What we are originally does affect us in some ways...I always enjoy finding discussions about us...As for escaping reality, that's what I've been forcing myself not to do...
PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:29 pm


I really enjoy your description. I have a hard time explain it to others. Well people that don't feel the way I do. What do you consider yourself. If you don't mind me asking.

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