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 Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 10:49 am
I'm sure we've all heard this phrase and its variations at one point or another. Or many of us, I suppose, far be it from me to make sweeping generalizations. razz
Recently I've been getting it a lot from my frisbee team. I just joined the team this semester, and for the most part they seem like good people, but the guys make a hell of a lot of gay jokes and it's beginning to piss me off.
So I am in largely two minds about it. I should tell them off because it's an a*****e game and I'm sick of all the "what are you gay or something?" and "welcome to Gays Anonymous!" However, I'm ultra new, still don't really know how to play, and I'm a 'girl.' However, just because I may not have a whole lot of 'team cred' doesn't mean I shouldn't stand up for the right thing. However, about everything else they seem like a great team. However, nice people can still do stupid things and they may just not know any better.
I'm sure they're not actively hating on anyone and it's just something they thing is cute and funny and I try not to let careless words offend me, but they don't make fun of any other personal characterstics like "what are you Asian or something?" or "what are you a trumpet-player or something?" so why should they get to use these jokes? I'm thinking I'll say something about it but not today, 'cause we're in the middle of a tournament and it would probably go down like this:
Cap'n Pat: come on guys, you can do better than this, work that D! anyone else got anything they want to say?
Bagelchip: yeah, play hard guys, we can get this.
Cap'n Pat: okay, anyone else?
Me: yeah, cut out the gay jokes, I don't find them cute or funny.
Team: .......
Cap'n Pat: LOLcano! floor is LOLva! only the ROFLcopter can save you! get out on the field and play!
Anyone else have trouble with this sort of thing?
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Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 6:16 am
I'm slightly notorious for my inability not to say something. Or, at least, I was in high school. I haven't really been in a steady community for a while. Difficult to become notorious.
More on this later! I have absolutely no time to procrastinate, but I'm doing it anyway. The lack of updates around here was driving me crazy! I will post more later.
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Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 5:09 am
tooo much trouble in my belief...let them do they gay jokes...it shoulnt affect you as long as its not directed towards someone in attempts to actually offend them...and even then...that is the victims problem.....im gay and i rank on so many gay people....its not even funny, but i mean it in good humor...if they dont then yeah if u want tell em sumthing
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Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 8:22 am
The problem, as I see it, is if we let people use the word gay to mean stupid then it allows gay people to be seen as a joke. I think that the word gay is still associated with homosexuals in the minds of those who use the word in that way, and doesn't have a purely different meaning to them. I don't think it's okay.
I don't like what you said about it being the victim's problem, kurotenchi. I think that you may feel differently if you're the victim. By ignoring the problem you are advocating it, which gives people plenty of license to use it against you.
Words are not meaningless. No, they have no inherent meaning, but as human beings we give them meaning and they can have a great effect on our lives. If it is okay to say gay and mean that something is stupid then it becomes okay to think that gay people are stupid. If someone were to say "man, that is so BLACK" I don't think that would be okay, I don't think it would be tolerated. So why should it be okay to use the word gay in this way?
Of course, I know how difficult it is to call people out on their use of this word and it takes more bravery than I can usually muster, but that doesn't mean I think this is an okay phenomenon. All I can do is try my best to speak out when I can (and when it is safe to do so!) and to not use words in this way myself.
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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 9:16 am
I agree with reject. It is not ok to make jokes at the expense of anyone. I speak up when people do this as well and safe to do so.
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Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 9:07 pm
I don't need people to use gay as an expression for dumb to prove I'm stupid. 4laugh
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Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 11:59 pm
Kaporie I don't need people to use gay as an expression for dumb to prove I'm stupid. 4laugh Hey, none of that now. Everyone has their moments, dull and shining. If anything, you've matured. 3nodding I mentioned it before, I think. My coming out was because someone asked jokingly if I was gay. It irked me so much that I felt I had to lie, or that I was expected I laugh it off to confirm heterosexuality, masculinity, and my status as being fairly normal. The word has stuck, and probably won't be leaving us any time soon. Calling on it still has a bit of edge left, and is probably less about bravery than it is indignance that it should be thrown about so carelessly. Still, if you don't feel safe enough, it probably isn't a good idea to try until you have the support. I keep forgetting how dangerous it can be, even in the conservative heartland of Canada.
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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:52 pm
Anytime someone suggests that something stupid is gay, I ask myself whether it is happy or homosexual. If it's neither, I calmly assert that it cannot be gay, since gay is simply not synonymous with stupid. It's as simple as that. I speak English, not pseudo-homophobic prattle.
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Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 10:31 am
TheDisreputableDog "what are you a trumpet-player or something?" I've said that before. Seriously. At my school we had a "Don't Say Gay Day" a while back. The basic purpose of this was to get people to use different adjectives. The signs we put up said things like "That Sweater's Not Gay, It's Ugly!" and other things. The day itself was more of a joke to most people in out school, but when someone was told that it was not ok to say "That's so gay!" they tended to stop. The moral of that story is: It's always better to tell someone that they are doing something to make you uncomfortable or that you feel is rude. If they know that you don't like it, they'll make a conscious effort to not say it near you. Unless they all hate you, then they might do it more... But we should try to stay positive here. 3nodding
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 1:03 am
yea its really annoying but then again, you shouldn't take it to personally, the word/tearm "gay" has been popularized and became a word meaning something else, like cool, and dude, its now just a word..and those jokes are really a pain but then again if you let it get to you, then its kind of like letting blonde jokes getting to a blonde you know? but if it really 'Rubs you the wrong way' then you should tell them to maybe cut it down, or you know just say your sensitive to those kinds of jokes then maybe the stop..but you always run the risk of them doing it more because they know it bugs you.
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Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 6:37 am
Hey im proud of being gay and when a person says that something is gay or when one of my class mates says that it is gay when they have to do something i simply ask them "how can a situation like this be gay?" and they never have an answer. You would think that some peopl have absolutely no brain power what so ever.Like previouslt sugested we need a replacement for the whole "thats so gay" thing, a replacement that wont discriminate anyone. some thing like "thats so pickle-ish" or "that is soo potato"
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Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 8:44 am
Dosepa we need a replacement for the whole "thats so gay" thing, a replacement that wont discriminate anyone. some thing like "thats so pickle-ish" or "that is soo potato" We have one: That's so dumb.Or any variation thereof: That's so stupid. That's so lame. That's so uncool. Et cetera.
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Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 11:31 pm
JoVo Dosepa we need a replacement for the whole "thats so gay" thing, a replacement that wont discriminate anyone. some thing like "thats so pickle-ish" or "that is soo potato" We have one: That's so dumb.Or any variation thereof: That's so stupid. That's so lame. That's so uncool. Et cetera. But that's discrimination againt idiots, cripples, and nerds!
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Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 6:00 am
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 1:39 pm
Vague But that's discrimination againt idiots, cripples, and nerds! Haha. Don't forget mutes.
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