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 Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:23 am
Possibly wrong forum.
So I read in a book that the only people capable of being a Witch are those who have it in their blood; like, their ancestors were Witches or something.
I personally call bullshit.
Other's might not, and I respect that they have opinions that differ from my own, and I would gladly listen to their reasons and have a good old debate, but...
Guys.....
This book stated that if one of your ancestors was killed at the Salem Witch Trials, then it was pretty assured you have the capacity to be a Witch. The majority of deaths in Salem were due to mass hysteria and I'd be surprised if any actual Witches at all got caught.
Doesn't it just irk you when a book is just so...historically inaccurate? And that people are going to read that and some might believe it?
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Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:07 pm
I had fits over Starhawk's "mythical history" when I read spiral dance so I get where you're coming from. Frankly it sounds like utter bullshit. I feel like I've heard it somewhere before too...
And in her later editions she gets all pissy about historians and archaeologists calling her on her poor history, which she only identified as mythic later.
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Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:12 pm
The Sorgitzak woman goes on about that for her whole introduction. Turned me right off reading it. And it's not so much "your grandmother's grandmother must have been a witch" for her and more "if you're a witch, you have witch blood and are descended from witches and are sent by the gods and blah blah". Like witches are super special people. I mean a little of that I can stand but she thinks we're holy or something, and it's actually really gross.
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Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:54 pm
Sanguina Cruenta The Sorgitzak woman goes on about that for her whole introduction. Turned me right off reading it. And it's not so much "your grandmother's grandmother must have been a witch" for her and more "if you're a witch, you have witch blood and are descended from witches and are sent by the gods and blah blah". Like witches are super special people. I mean a little of that I can stand but she thinks we're holy or something, and it's actually really gross. I can understand if witches are High priests or Priestesses of a religion being considered holy figures (which is what I got out of her book myself) but in general no. I am not a holy figure. I am human. When I serve in the role of the priestess (performing my own rites and rituals in honor of the Gods) I take on a sacred role and position but that is a bit different don't you think?
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Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 8:00 pm
CalledTheRaven I had fits over Starhawk's "mythical history" when I read spiral dance so I get where you're coming from. Frankly it sounds like utter bullshit. I feel like I've heard it somewhere before too... And in her later editions she gets all pissy about historians and archaeologists calling her on her poor history, which she only identified as mythic later. Sadly that mythic history has been passed down as the actual history of the Modern witchcraft movement now. The first time I saw a version of it I knew it was a mytho history. I saw it for what it was. I do find inspirational value in the mythic history but I see it as nothing more than that. A modern witch myth. The actual history of the movement is kinda messy when you think about it.
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Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 12:38 am
Well I have an ancestor who is my great great great great grandmother from Ireland. Who had second sight. They called her a fae according to my vary Christian grandmother. This obviously can't be proven but family lore. I did not become a witch because she had the Sight. I don't have the Sight. I was a witch before I found this out. I find Starhawk to be too preachy on women's rights. I am a woman saying this. She almost completely ignores the God and males. I don't agree with most of her ideology but I do like her meditations. I use them.
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Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:06 pm
Zabora Lionheart Well I have an ancestor who is my great great great great grandmother from Ireland. Who had second sight. They called her a fae according to my vary Christian grandmother. This obviously can't be proven but family lore. I did not become a witch because she had the Sight. I don't have the Sight. I was a witch before I found this out. I find Starhawk to be too preachy on women's rights. I am a woman saying this. She almost completely ignores the God and males. I don't agree with most of her ideology but I do like her meditations. I use them. Thats really cool. Only if you could know more about her. I feel that gifts can be pasted on and that might lead you to being a witch. Which is different then being born one.
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Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:29 pm
immortalalia Zabora Lionheart Well I have an ancestor who is my great great great great grandmother from Ireland. Who had second sight. They called her a fae according to my vary Christian grandmother. This obviously can't be proven but family lore. I did not become a witch because she had the Sight. I don't have the Sight. I was a witch before I found this out. I find Starhawk to be too preachy on women's rights. I am a woman saying this. She almost completely ignores the God and males. I don't agree with most of her ideology but I do like her meditations. I use them. Thats really cool. Only if you could know more about her. I feel that gifts can be pasted on and that might lead you to being a witch. Which is different then being born one. I like to think maybe I got a little of her gifts in me. I'm vary good with Tarot but who knows...
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 10:19 am
Zabora Lionheart immortalalia Zabora Lionheart Well I have an ancestor who is my great great great great grandmother from Ireland. Who had second sight. They called her a fae according to my vary Christian grandmother. This obviously can't be proven but family lore. I did not become a witch because she had the Sight. I don't have the Sight. I was a witch before I found this out. I find Starhawk to be too preachy on women's rights. I am a woman saying this. She almost completely ignores the God and males. I don't agree with most of her ideology but I do like her meditations. I use them. Thats really cool. Only if you could know more about her. I feel that gifts can be pasted on and that might lead you to being a witch. Which is different then being born one. I like to think maybe I got a little of her gifts in me. I'm vary good with Tarot but who knows... That would make sense. It is just how the gift is for you.
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 7:10 pm
I do tend to think that when people find out there were family members that had some practices (psychic sights, tarot readers, folk charms, ect) the people new to the craft tend to cling to those as validations for their own personal practices.
I found out a few years ago that my Grand Meme practiced cartomancy with regular playing cards. My mom reads tarot and has started to practice witchcraft after exploring it with me through my teen years.
I've recently embraced the fact that my biological parents practiced a form of Satanism and I was invited and participated as a baby/toddler in some rites. I think some of those rites may have been which lead to my spirit sights and psychic developments but that is another topic.
In the end people embrace family heritage and sometimes use it to make themselves feel better about being a witch. It gives them validation and nothing more.
I do think that interests and some practices can be hereditary. I also think that if you are raised in a family that is open to the practices you may be more open to practicing yourself even if differently. Does hereditary practice make you a witch? No.
In the end what makes a witch a witch is practice and nothing more.
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 10:57 pm
Loona Wynd I do tend to think that when people find out there were family members that had some practices (psychic sights, tarot readers, folk charms, ect) the people new to the craft tend to cling to those as validations for their own personal practices. Maybe...but I was great with tarot before I found out about my ancestor. I just thought it was a cool bit of info to pass on. And I was raised in a vary strict Christian home by my grandparents.
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Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 9:17 pm
Zabora Lionheart Maybe...but I was great with tarot before I found out about my ancestor. I just thought it was a cool bit of info to pass on. And I was raised in a vary strict Christian home by my grandparents. It wasn't until I had been interested in witchcraft and divination for a few years before my mom said that she read cards when she was younger (early 20's) and had been accurate. It was after she started to understand more about witchcraft and magic that really through my explorations she returned to her practice. When I expressed interest in learning to read playing cards my mom then told me that her Grand mother read playing cards. Its interesting how things can fall and play in life.
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Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 9:30 pm
Tarot was a game I believe and that's where we get our modern playing cards from. My husbands mom reads playing cards and I am interested to know if they are similar to Tarot interpretations. Does anyone know of a site I can look at? Or am I going to have to go to Palau before I learn from my mother in law?
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