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I'm Catholic and I like bc available. Just to break the mold xd Then again, my family for the most part likes bc and my friends all do and some of them are Catholic. Not, like it, just, like it being available. And you can get pregnant using bc, it fails sometimes, it's not really stupid or unlucky, it happens a lot....but considering the amount of people who use bc times how many times they use it, pregnancies are rare. A lot of people get them, but it seems like bc isn't as effective as it is because people forget to take into account how many people use it, and that most people use it more than once. all that sex produces lots of babies though, and so many people are having it *shrug* there are lots of babies whose mothers were "unlucky." It's not really luck though, it's...sorta I guess. It's the risk you take, but still.

I know there are some catholics who agree with contraception, my uncle, who is very devoutly catholic and a doctor is in favour of abortions in certain circumstances. He reached this decision after having worked in intensive care for many years and saw the destruction having a child can have on those who are not physically capable of supporting an infant.

Just a quick note: I'm not aiming to pick on you, so PLEASE don't take this personally, okay?

I know that it's great to think that couples should wait until marriage before they have sex, but curiousity is usually what kills off virginity. Look at me, I was abstaining until marriage, and then once I got engaged - BOOM. No more virginity. Five months later, second BOOM. Got dumped - girl ran after another guy. So yeah, pre-marital sex is real, and there are some people more patient that I am that will wait, and they're good, strong-willed people, but there are far more people less patient than me who just have sex for fun and such - this is basically where the abortion issue plays a major role.

Personally, I think Birth Control plays a good role when it comes to "casual sex", basically because there are those people out there who aren't patient, and without birth control there'd either be a ton of babies or a ton of abortions - more than likely it'd be the latter. The Pill seems to work wonders - my friend's girlfriend has been on the pill for four years, and he has used the condom everytime they do it I'm pretty sure. She's never gotten pregnant, and she's a Pro-Choicer, so I don't know if she'd have an abortion or not if she did have a child (I'm guessing not, because she wants kids.) Neither of them are Catholic, so religion's not an issue... however, there are other friends I know who use just the condom, and the girls HAVE gotten pregnant. Thankfully they've all had the children (as far as I know) so things are okay in that aspect.

... well, I zoned out halfway through that paragraph, so I have no clue where I was going with this, lol. Basically, birth control is okay, people who have casual sex that use it are fine with me so long as they don't have an abortion in case anything "goes wrong" and it definitely helps to keep the number of abortions down if there is no child to abort, ya know? (Except the Morning After Pill... that form of "Birth Control" I'm DEFINITELY against.)

My little rules

When having sex without the purpose of creating a new life:

- Know the facts - know what activities are "safer" - less likely to result in pregnancy or STD transfer.

- Use birth control - if possible, multiple nonconflicting types (such as the pill AND a condom).

- Know your birth control - some types fail more often than others, some have a higher rate of effectiveness, some may have unappealing side effects.

- have a back-up plan - do NOT set yourself up for a possible pregnancy with nowhere to turn.

As far as contraception outside my religion goes, I'm fine with it. The only reason I wouldn't use contraception is because my religion teaches that it's wrong. As long as you have no religious or other reasons not to use contraception, and you want to avoid having a kid, I say go for it.

This may seem like a silly question but I thought of it because my Canadian History teacher is catholic but his wife isn't.

If you were to marry someone who wasn't catholic would it be against your religion for them to use contraception, if you weren't? Well I mean it's against your religion anyway, but would you feel morally wronged by it kinda thing?

whee I should really PM you and Kate about your religion. I find it fascinating.

Haha, I understood that perfectly, suprisingly enough. And actually I think you worded it better than I did, because you answered what I was trying to ask with the whole "Participating in something morally wrong." thing. And I understand what you mean with the whole religion thing, all of my ex's were Atheist's and it was kind of odd around that topic, because I'm very spiritual and I felt silly talking about stuff like that around them.

Dy (Not my boyfriend, but only because he lives too far away.) has basically the same beliefs, morally and spiritually as me. He's pro-life, Pagan, pro-gay marriage etc. I think the difference is I'm against guns and I'm vegetarian. But yes it's much easier to relate when someone holds the same beliefs as you.

And on a side note, something that I find amusing. My mom had to go on birth control for awhile and then come off of it, plus take fertility drugs in order to get pregnant with me xd She only ovulates a couple times a year so when she "missed" the pill it caused her to ovulate.