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Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 9:34 am
There was a pot of coffee brewing on the counter, a kettle on the hotplate, and a packet of the good hot cocoa sitting next to it. Jordan sat on the couch, his attention focused on a new page in his notebook; he had outlined the maze he was drawing, and now he was constructing the interior contours. This one was more complicated than most, the lines thin and precise and the shapes convoluted.
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Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 10:36 am
Rep got back from the beach not too long afterwards, wandering into the room and immediately beelining in the direction of the kettle. Only when he was well into making himself a cup of hot chocolate did he glance over at what Jordan was up to.
"Still drawing mazes? You know all it'd take was a really long piece of string right?"
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Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 10:51 am
"Mhm. I haven't a clue who it is that solves them when I leave it on the table," Jordan answered without looking up, the smile audible in his voice. "Grab me a cup of coffee?" He drew a long, steady line that ended in a curve, connected it with a structure he'd already drawn, and then set his pen down.
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Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:06 am
Rep smirked and got to pouring some coffee. "Maybe its some ******** like, really haxx gnomes man. Just creeping about filling in mazes." Once he was sorted out, he brought both mugs over and set them down on the table, sitting down next to Jordan.
"So. I guess there were better ways for you to have met Al."
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Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:15 am
"Maybe some escaped minipets. You never know, they might get bored." Jordan picked up the mug with a nod of thanks.
"Yeah, probably." He gave Rep a rueful sidewise glance. "Not exactly a controlled situation or anything."
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Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:19 am
He took a long slow sip of his hot chocolate before he said calmly. "I didn't want another Ro."
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Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:23 am
"What do you mean?" Jordan looked confused.
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Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:42 am
Rep sighed and took another long sip of his drink, wondering why he'd bothered saying that when it was tied to such an enormous knot of issues. All that remained though was to try and explain.
"Ro when he showed up on the island was dumb and obedient enough that I figured I could like, take him under my wing, make him life me. That was the plan, new guy in a s**t situation, going to gravitate to the strong. But it depended on him thinking I was strong and badass, almost infallible and to not think I was leading him on or astray." He frowned. "It started well. Then he met you guys. And of course, you are a five million times ******** more charismatic than me, and Ace is like the most reliable guy you can meet for advice. In one single ********, he didn't need me any more."
He had to put the mug down as the urge to clench his hands into fists overtook him - he refused to break more crockery. "And then his admiration for you went even ******** further than I was willing to allow and we all know where that ******** ended up." These days he didn't even see the guy anymore, and wasn't sure he could keep the nice act up if he did. "He was a failed attempt to get someone to like, be in my gang I guess, its how it worked back home, you took the weak guys into your care and then they'd owe you and when they got meaner you'd have people with your back."
He sniffed and looked away. "I told Al to keep clear of you and Ace so I didn't have another ******** disaster. Even just in that few minutes, you made him doubt the room I gave him."
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Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 12:06 pm
Jordan listened attentively, wrapping his hands around his cup. When Rep had finished talking, he was quiet for another minute, mulling it over and thinking about what to say. "Making someone afraid or forcing them to be dependent on you isn't a good way to gain their trust," he said finally. "If someone likes and trusts you, they'll go a long way to help you and support you. In a place where you have to assume you can't trust anyone, finding the strongest person to protect you is a good plan. But if there are people who will offer help freely - and Harrison and I aren't the only ones by any means - you're going to run into trouble with that approach as soon as the new guy realizes that he's not required to owe you or be dependent on you. You can't just tell him to avoid everyone." He paused. "Well - that might've worked for longer with Al. He's really kind of naive. But sooner or later he was going to realize that he could do things for himself or ask people for help."
He gave Rep a thoughtful look. "You've got friends, people who like you, who aren't dependent or submissive, and you didn't have to put on any kind of act to find them. Us. You're reliable. You're about the most loyal person I know, you'll keep at a problem till it's either solved or broken, you have valuable skills that you can use or teach. That's not nothing; you don't have to force anyone into liking you. You could've shown him an awesome new room of his own, told him he could come to you for help or advice anytime, and gotten him started relying on you because you gave him good things. If you're the source of good things, people will come to you because they want good things, rather than trying to scare people into not leaving because they're afraid of what you'll do if they consider it."
He frowned and sipped his coffee. "I offered to help with a room transfer because the room he's in is busted up, and there are plenty of rooms that aren't. It's not about undermining you. Having no privacy and sleeping on the floor will keep him from being in top condition for training. If you hadn't had privacy or a decent bed in the first weeks you were here, how would you have coped?"
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Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 12:19 pm
Rep knew Jordan had a point, what he said was honest and made good logical sense. But to Rep it wasn't what he would do or how he would do it. It involved a lot of investment in terms of delivering and generosity, these things didn't appeal to him in the least. "It's no the same. I don't want them to do it by choice, there's no fun in that." It was like trying to explain what he saw in the twisted games he played with Sasha. "Even if I run into trouble then that's just the way s**t is, I wasn't fast enough, I didn't isolate them enough. It just makes me more efficient. One day there will come a day when I find someone who is dependent. And they are ******** out there, just look at Jerry." He was even dependent himself in a lot of ways, if someone had picked him up at the start and broken him, he'd have followed them blindly no matter what, it was a personality he knew from experience existed.
"And aye I have friends." He made a face again. "Friends who do whatever they want and care about me only so far as I'm useful to them at that moment in time. You and Ace are the only exceptions. I don't want friends, I'd be ******** fine without them. I want absolutes, I want someone who can't ******** exist without me controlling their life, who thinks I am perfect and if snapped until they believe it. ******** stockholm loyalty." He wasn't enormously comfortable admitting these kind of wants and desires to Jordan, worried he'd be thought less of for them - it was different from what the other man wanted from people. "I'd sooner kill someone for trying to leave me than tolerate it because they are my friend."
Picking up his mug again he sighed and swigged it. "It wasn't about that either. The room was about having him at nothing. ******** rock bottom and lifting him up gradually, making him feel every ******** thing as if it counted." He snorted. "And if I didn't have privacy or a decent bed, I would have coped the exact same ******** way I always coped sleeping on shitty couches in other people's houses."
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Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 12:39 pm
Jordan sat back against the couch, propping one heel on the edge of the cushions and listening with a neutral, thoughtful expression. "I'd be willing to bet that your other friends care about you for more than your usefulness," he said, but didn't chase that thread of conversation any further; he was pretty sure that Rep wasn't going to believe him, and trying to press the point would hurt the rest of his argument. "Someone who is totally dependent on you isn't going to be useful if for some reason they can't get in touch with you," he pointed out. "If, say, you weren't in the same location. And in a closed community like this, everyone's got to be useful in more than one way - or they get podded or worse. Even if you're not concerned with their happiness, you don't want them to get taken away, right?"
He studied Rep, looking a little troubled and debating with himself. There was more than a little moral grey zone here, and advising Rep on manipulation was stepping pretty deep into the ambiguous realm of behavior. On the other hand, bringing the results closer to the range of socially acceptable or even kind behavior was an outcome that would definitely be positive. He wasn't always comfortable with what that said about him, and essentially admitting to it by giving instructions made him even more uncomfortable - but the alternative was to let this go on, and that wasn't acceptable.
I don't see anything wrong with it, Ferros said. If I were broken, you would repair me.
He's not broken.
Isn't he?
What business do I have trying to fix him anyway?
He sensed the equivalent of a mental shrug. As much as anyone else. Better someone who knows and cares for him than someone else, Ferros said.
That doesn't make me feel much better. Aloud, he said, "Rock bottom doesn't have to mean nothing. It's a relative thing. You could've shown him the room and said there's places like this, but here, I've got somewhere much better, and still created an implied sense of obligation. Even if you're not considering what he feels, you've got to consider his overall measurable worth, and make sure that someone doesn't come along and outdo you without even trying. Sasha almost managed it." His mouth twisted a little at the thought; Al would have been caught up in this game between Rep and Sasha, and not had any idea until he was being ripped apart by opposing forces.
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Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 12:57 pm
"I don't know so much. A lot of people are all ******** talk about emotions and values, but when it comes right down to the crux of the matter, they are only looking out for themselves. You give them an inch, they take a mile. It's all about usefulness and always will be." He shrugged. "Look at Rin. When I had her, she was mine entirely ******** mine. She would do anything for me, even when I cut off her arm she came back. It was only when I let her have a bit of ******** freedom, treated her like a friend that suddenly I was no threat at all and she ran off with ******** Melvin." He snorted. "And I wouldn't care if they weren't useful to me all the time, I have other people for that function. All they'd need to do is be dependent, like a pet with clipped wings."
He gave Jordan a thoughtful look for his advice. "I did do that, I just wanted to make it real to him, let him live it for a while, toughen him up. If he couldn't handle it, he's not what I want anyway."
At the mention of Sasha almost out-doing him however it was like something in him snapped again, another moodswing from the level manner he'd been talking in to a very raw and severe fury seething under the surface. Everything about his posture changed as he set the mug on the table again, this time with a click, seeming to close off significantly as he sat straighter. His eyes were cold as he glared at Jordan. "She didn't ******** manage it. I laid the groundwork. I laid the fear. He was already ******** telling me things for my approval. She didn't come even close to getting him away from me. Don't start trying to ******** call the odds in a game you don't know all the details of." His vicious reaction was partially out of hurt, the idea that Jordan thought so little of his abilities and decisions to think Sasha could outsmart him.
"Maybe you think how I do things is stupid, well maybe I think your way makes you have to live a lie always just to sustain it. I don't pretend I give a ******** about these people, that I'm doing good things for them. I just say, here I am, I'm ******** strong and you will follow me. If they can't keep up, they can go die in a ditch somewhere, I've not lost who I am to them."
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Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 1:07 pm
"You haven't lost Rin," Jordan said. "The only way in which you could really say you've lost her is as a sex partner, and I sure as hell hope that's stopped mattering." His lips pressed into a thin line. "Most people need people. Plural. If you try to make yourself the only person in their life, you're going to lose them. It's only a matter of when."
"I'm not living a lie. This is the most open I've been in my life, Rep. Is that how you feel about us too?" He kept his tone level and his expression blank, falling back on the automatic defense of iron self-control without thinking about it. "If we can't keep up, we can go die?"
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Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 1:16 pm
"I have lost her. I don't want to be just a proportion of someone's concern. I want to be everything. Otherwise I don't ******** want it at all. She's got other people, she doesn't need me." He only got more irritable at the idea that he would always lose people if he tried to make himself a singular concern, the thought sparking a very deep and primal fear in him he couldn't explain. "And if that's how it's going to be then maybe I shouldn't try in the first place."
He didn't relax, finding it easier to hide behind his aggressive posturing than to let his emotions show at all. "And no don't be ******** daft, that's not how I feel about you. I'm the one who'd ******** die in a ditch if I couldn't keep up in that ******** situation. You guys are ******** everything to me. The rules I apply to other people don't apply to you."
Shrugging, he crossed his arms. "But its clear to me why I thought trying to explain how I feel to you wouldn't work. I don't want people to want to help me, I don't want people to respect me. I want them to need me and that's a whole other thing entirely."
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Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 1:21 pm
Jordan put his cup down on the table, put his foot back on the floor, and rested his elbows on his knees, letting his head hang down, breathing through the tight feeling in his chest, his mind racing, thinking in a cascade of thoughts and feelings too fast to follow consciously. It all came down, in the end, to that one last thing. Eat or be eaten, survive or die, fear or be feared.
He looked up at Rep, let the old tired sorrow show through. Why was it always this, deep down at the bottom of things? For Rep, for everyone? "You don't have to be afraid," he said. "Not of me."
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