A lot of us have beaten FE12 by now, and I said a while ago that the next time we play, we should do RNG to decide which of the 70+ characters we should use in the playthrough.
I call this a draft, but I don't want it to be a race. I just think it would be cool for a bunch of us to get together and decide draft style which characters we'll have access to. Obviously the amount will be determined by how many people want to give it a try. But I think it would be cool to do this, because it opens the door to using characters we might not otherwise.
Characters not on your usable list can be recruited if you want to. Obviously, you can bring characters not on your usable list into battle if you need them to recruit somebody. Obviously no penalties if they end up getting attacked, since it's not a race, it's just for fun.
So, anybody up for it? Any input or corrections you can give?
Free to use: Marth, MU, Rickard, Nyna, Lena, Maria and Elice All non-drafted characters in the chapters you get them in only. For endgame only: Srs, Merric, Julian and Minerva
Characters: Luke Rody Cecil Arran Gordin Ryan Draug Malliesia Catria Warren Cord Linde Palla Bord Julian Mathis Wrys Ogma Yumina Yubello Sirius Castor Caeda Barst Frey Norne Samto Wendell Caesar Radd Navarre Feena Cain Bantu Roger Jeorge Minerva Etzel Merric Elrean Dice Maris Horace Jake Darros Robert Belf Leiden Beck Athena Xane Tiki Est Dolph Abel Macellan Astram Katarina Tomas Sheema Samson Frost Roshea Vyland Sedgar Wolf Midia Ymir Michalis Nagi
Rath's Draftees: Dice, Maris (8D!), Wendell, Robert, Radd, Draug, Tiki, Bantu, Luke, Ymir (...... 8|), Ryan (wooo)
Well this is what Serenes has for an FE12 draft. I don't know why you didn't post the whole thing Rath.
Drafting: 1. This draft is for (5 to 8 ) players 2. Marth, Arran, Xane, Feena, and Rickard are free for all. My Unit is free for all, but is restricted to Female Mage, Cleric, Myrmidon, Archer, and their promoted counterparts. 3. The game will be played on Hard 1. (The level of course can be changed)
Rules: 1. Undrafted units may recruit characters, visit houses, trade, and shop. 2. Undrafted units may not do anything not listed above, including but not limited to opening chests/doors and activating Supports. 3. All characters are free for Prologue chapters. However, all drafted characters who are recruitable in the Prologue must be recruited. 4. You are free to reclass undrafted units to whatever you want. 5. All Gaiden chapters must be visited. 6. The game must be played out to the True Ending.
Other: 1. Forging, the Rainbow Potion, Lunatic Statboosters and use of Wi-fi features are strictly prohibited. 2. Male Class Set Combination is allowed. 3. Warp may not be used on Marth. Rescue may not be used on Marth by a unit who has been Warped or rescued earlier in the chapter. Hammerne may not be used on Rescue. 4. Use of the Base Arena is allowed. 5. Use of the Clock Bonus is strictly prohibited.
Penalties: 1. Undrafted units have a 4-turn penalty, per unit per chapter.
Exceptions: 1. Palla is free for Chapter 3. 2. Yubello, Yumina, Ogma and Sirius are free for Chapter 4. 3. Navarre is free for Chapter 7. 4. Merric is free for Chapter 10. 5. Nyna, Maria, Lena and Elice are free for Final.
I haven't beaten FE12 yet so I can't do this just of yet.
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:14 pm
Because I don't go on the Serenes forums much and never for drafts...And just skimming their rules, I can already tell they are too strict for what I had in mind.
Why exactly are Xane, Feena and Rickard free to use? I can't make sense of that. Arran I can understand, because that's just general action to allow the starter paladin to be free to use, though I don't think he should be free to use for our purposes, since it's not a real speed Draft run. There will be no restrictions on MU either, and the difficulty I already addressed.
Rules are fine, except for the gaidens being mandatory.
Warp/Rescue rule does not apply to us since it's not a speed run, don't know wtf the clock bonus is...
And those are really good exceptions. Though, for our purposes, I'd say any undrafted units are free to use in the chapter you get them in altogether.
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:40 pm
Well I see you do have something in mind. I was just trying to help by giving what Serenes has because usually they have a good enough idea on how to do drafts. I think people might want to play it a few more times, but who knows.
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:16 pm
Totally down for this. I'm not really in the mood for a competitive draft, anyway, so this sounds especially appetizing. If there's any race aspect, it's that we all need to finish in time to enjoy Awakening as soon as it comes out.
A recommendation for picking units: have someone ELSE pick the units you can use. I saw a Draft like this once that was quite sadistic since it was for turns, but for our purpose of just stretching the units we use, I think it could work really well. Order for deciding could go something like this, assuming say... 4 people.
1 picks 2 2 picks 3 3 picks 4 4 picks 1
2 picks 1 1 picks 4 4 picks 3 3 picks 2
Rinse and repeat.
Concerning what Mel found on Serenes, Xane and Feena are free because of how unique their utility is, in this game particularly. Anyone getting them has an advantage that can't be replicated. ESPECIALLY Feena (she WILL cut turns in such a manner that can't be replicated). Either everyone has to be free or no one can, when competing for turns. Rickard is free because he's the worst thief available, but as Thieves can't be reclassed, getting one of two Thieves puts you at a much larger advantage than normal as well (something I took advantage of in recruiting Julian during our FE11 draft tournament). In a turn based context, anyway.
For our purposes, it needn't be the case. Concerning Merric/Julian/Sirius/Minerva, they should be free for the final chapter for everyone.
Just my two cents.
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:55 am
Interesting. I did find an RNG that will give me sets without repeating numbers, so that the results are completely random, but your idea is interesting. It will take a while, though.
I'll leave which way we do it up to those interested.
And I agree with the later half of your post.
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:23 am
I'd be up for this too, by the way. Sounds like fun.
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 5:15 pm
I've got a question. When was 12 released? I figured it was skipped because 13 is coming out soon.
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 5:38 pm
battosai matt
I've got a question. When was 12 released? I figured it was skipped because 13 is coming out soon.
FE12 was released in Japan in 2010. It was unfortunately never released outside of Japan. So a fan translation was completed last November.
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 5:47 pm
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battosai matt
I've got a question. When was 12 released? I figured it was skipped because 13 is coming out soon.
FE12 was released in Japan in 2010. It was unfortunately never released outside of Japan. So a fan translation was completed last November.
Oh. So its on a website on the computer right?
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 7:38 pm
Might as well post this now, I am up for the draft too.
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 7:44 pm
Interested!
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 7:48 pm
Yaaay! That makes five.
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:55 pm
1. Rath 2. FD 3. Tiki 4. OJ 5. Nom 6. Rhys
RNG Says: 125436
Ok, the order is: Rath → FD → Nom → OJ → Tiki → Rhys → Rhys → Tiki → OJ → Nom → FD → Rath → Rath (etc)
I pick for FD, FD picks for Nom, Nom picks for OJ, OJ picks for Tiki, Tiki picks for Rhys and Rhys picks for me.
Between the 6 of us, we'll each have 11 characters out of the 70, with 4 unused. Please remember that you are choosing characters for the person after you to use. (Rhys will be selecting my characters) I have a list on characters in the first post to look at if you need it.
Since I'm first, my choice for FD's first draft is... Est. Don't hate me forever.
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 7:57 am
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No, no. It shouldn't be TOO bad. She comes somewhat sooner than in Shadow Dragon with more chapters left.
Nom shall have Norne.
*Would like it if Feena was free for everyone also*
