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 Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 12:57 pm
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 11:46 am
the king james bible was changed by the illuminati, but king james predates the illuminati by over a century. now the modern bibles you see are largely byproducts of modern illuminati members pushing their one world agenda.
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 2:15 pm
Modern or KJV, they expose the same group of people: an elite/govt. officials that conspire against YHWH's anointed; they came against Yeshua, his prophets and his kings. Yeshua will defeat them for good after the millenial reign (Rev 20:7-10). Freemasons have their own version of the KJV, it's not talking about the KJV in general. Anything that worships Lucifer or the Egyptian gods is clearly a tainted book. Does the masonic one include the Book of Exodus in there? because each plague pretty much exposed their gods for the uselessness that they were. So to have a picture of Ra, Isis, Khnum (etc...) in there is laughable. Gnostic gospels are the real lie, not modern versions: Quote: Revelation 2:24 (NIV) Now I say to the rest of you in Thyatira, to you who do not hold to her teaching and have not learned Satan’s so-called deep secrets, ‘I will not impose any other burden on you, ...things like, "The Secret Gospel of Mark", "The Secret Book of John", etc... or anything saying you can save yourself if you "realize" the piece of god within you or that you are your own god. Those are the real enemies, not modern versions of accepted cannon. Any real student of the bible won't stick only to modern versions for their understanding anyway. Above all, it's no hindrance to the Holy Spirit who teaches us regardless of the language we're reading it in.
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 5:06 pm
Michael Noire the king james bible was changed by the illuminati, but king james predates the illuminati by over a century. now the modern bibles you see are largely byproducts of modern illuminati members pushing their one world agenda. I see that with a lot of the newer versions of the Bible. They have errors, or verses that are taken out, and verses that were not originally included in the older versions. These newer bible translations are sometimes misleading. What do you think of versions older than KJV (1600's), like Douay-Rheims (1500's) or John Wycliff (1300's)Bibles?
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 5:13 pm
If you guys want to dig deeper into the illuminati/Masons and the planning of the 3 World Wars and intermittent Revoluations. Check this site out
http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Articles/Pike-Mazzini_Three-World-Wars.htm
Also, understand the Masons openly put the KJB version out in plan view to hide it in plan site...Read also Morals and Dogma along with the Bible and you'll understand the full context of Spiritual Warfare.
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 5:13 pm
real eyes realize Modern or KJV, they expose the same group of people: an elite/govt. officials that conspire against YHWH's anointed; they came against Yeshua, his prophets and his kings. Yeshua will defeat them for good after the millenial reign (Rev 20:7-10). Freemasons have their own version of the KJV, it's not talking about the KJV in general. Anything that worships Lucifer or the Egyptian gods is clearly a tainted book. Does the masonic one include the Book of Exodus in there? because each plague pretty much exposed their gods for the uselessness that they were. So to have a picture of Ra, Isis, Khnum (etc...) in there is laughable. Gnostic gospels are the real lie, not modern versions: Quote: Revelation 2:24 (NIV) Now I say to the rest of you in Thyatira, to you who do not hold to her teaching and have not learned Satan’s so-called deep secrets, ‘I will not impose any other burden on you, ...things like, "The Secret Gospel of Mark", "The Secret Book of John", etc... or anything saying you can save yourself if you "realize" the piece of god within you or that you are your own god. Those are the real enemies, not modern versions of accepted cannon. Any real student of the bible won't stick only to modern versions for their understanding anyway. Above all, it's no hindrance to the Holy Spirit who teaches us regardless of the language we're reading it in. That's true. They try to pervert the truth.
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 5:21 pm
real eyes realize Anything that worships Lucifer
Lucifer, really?
emotion_facepalm
"Ph’nglui mglw’nafh Cthulhu R’lyeh wagh’nagl fhtagn."
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 6:16 pm
Calelith real eyes realize Anything that worships Lucifer
Lucifer, really?
emotion_facepalm
"Ph’nglui mglw’nafh Cthulhu R’lyeh wagh’nagl fhtagn."
Do you prefer Serpent or Devil? Choose any moniker you like. You know who I'm referring to. Hint: not Yeshua. razz
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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 6:24 pm
real eyes realize Calelith real eyes realize Anything that worships Lucifer
Lucifer, really?
emotion_facepalm
"Ph’nglui mglw’nafh Cthulhu R’lyeh wagh’nagl fhtagn."
Do you prefer Serpent or Devil? Choose any moniker you like. You know who I'm referring to. Hint: not Yeshua. razz
Lucifer doesn't refer to Satan/Devil.
"Ph’nglui mglw’nafh Cthulhu R’lyeh wagh’nagl fhtagn."
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:50 am
Listen and learn a little. Lucifer and Satan/Devil are two sides of the same coin. One gives an illusion of 'Light'/''Truth', whereas Satan and the Devil are the active hand. Both ends justify the means. Forked tongue in speech, double minded in thought, half heart in will. It's what Jesus describes as a whited sepulchral. Beautiful on the outside and deadly within. It shows beauty on the outside just to hold the dead/lies inside. Don't be deceived.
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 6:23 am
Hamul Listen and learn a little. Lucifer and Satan/Devil are two sides of the same coin. One gives an illusion of 'Light'/''Truth', whereas Satan and the Devil are the active hand. Both ends justify the means. Forked tongue in speech, double minded in thought, half heart in will. It's what Jesus describes as a whited sepulchral. Beautiful on the outside and deadly within. It shows beauty on the outside just to hold the dead/lies inside. Don't be deceived.
No they're not.
The title Lucifer has been given to several people within the Bible, none of them being Satan/Ha-Satan.
Hell, even Jesus refers to himself as Lucifer (Morning Star) once within the Bible (Book of Revelation).
"Ph’nglui mglw’nafh Cthulhu R’lyeh wagh’nagl fhtagn."
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:02 am
No they're not. The title Lucifer has been given to several people within the Bible, none of them being Satan/Ha-Satan. Hell, even Jesus refers to himself as Lucifer (Morning Star) once within the Bible (Book of Revelation). "Ph’nglui mglw’nafh Cthulhu R’lyeh wagh’nagl fhtagn."
Let me clarify. Jesus humbles himself before the Father, even unto death and is exalted to the Morning Star (Lucifer). Satan the Devil tries to set himself up on to the throne with no humility in heart. I agree the name does belong to Jesus, but understand Satan has been trying to steal the title since the beginning. Rev 22:16 (NIV) "I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star.".Isa 14:12-15 (NIV) How you have fallen from heaven, O morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations! You said in your heart, "I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God; I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly, on the utmost heights of the sacred mountain. I will ascend above the tops of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High." But you are brought down to the grave, to the depths of the pit. (Referencing Satan exalted himself at night and falling down in flames in the morning) Ultimately, my point is Satan comes as an Angel of Light, sorry for any confusion. The King James Version has minor vague translation issues, that are helped and corrected by a few other translations. 2 Corinthians 11:12-15: "But what I am doing, I will continue to do, that I may cut off opportunity from those who desire an opportunity to be regarded just as we are in the matter about which they are boasting. For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. Therefore it is not surprising if his servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their deeds."
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:14 am
Calelith
No they're not.
The title Lucifer has been given to several people within the Bible, none of them being Satan/Ha-Satan.
Hell, even Jesus refers to himself as Lucifer (Morning Star) once within the Bible (Book of Revelation).
"Ph’nglui mglw’nafh Cthulhu R’lyeh wagh’nagl fhtagn."
Yeah, it's a title; hence, my hint (that I wasn't referring to Yeshua; I'm aware that he ascribes the title to himself and rightfully so, unlike the Babylonian king who was simply acting like it). Are you going to ignore the fact that Freemasons, Luciferians, and some Theistic Satanists refer to the devil as "Lucifer"? Since this topic is referring to Freemasons and the "gods" they worship, it's obvious who I'm referring to when I use "Lucifer". Or are you confused because I'm using the title to describe somebody evil? just like the bible does? whether you want to view Isaiah 14:12 strictly as referring to the Babylonian King or not, you can't deny that the title is being used to describe a prideful, evil person who wants to exalt himself to god-like status—which is what the serpent offered Adam and Eve (equality with God). Is it still difficult to see the connection as to why anyone would call the devil "Lucifer" in the same manner Isaiah refers to the Babylonian King? These groups are using it as a proper name though (not a title since it's capitalized) and they're not oblivious to who they worship. They're not going to stick to the truth of scripture (just in case you were hoping). They reject the bright morning star who is Yeshua, whose kingdom is not of this world. The devil is their "morning star", their "heylel", their "shining one", who illuminated their understanding. They are "worldly" in their thinking, and they belong to the devil because he is the god of this age and the prince of this world (2 Corinthians 4:4; John 12:31). If you belong to the world, you belong to Satan by default. If people don't want to be under his authority, they need to be born again into Yeshua's kingdom. They can't get out from under his authority or avoid the wrath coming upon the planet, by worshiping "self" or any other creation.
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:18 am
Hamul Isa 14:12-15 (NIV) How you have fallen from heaven, O morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations! You said in your heart, "I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God; I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly, on the utmost heights of the sacred mountain. I will ascend above the tops of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High." But you are brought down to the grave, to the depths of the pit. (Referencing Satan exalted himself at night and falling down in flames in the morning)
Oh for the love of all things unholy. That isn't referring to Satan, it's referring to the Babylonian king and his fall from grace.
"Ph’nglui mglw’nafh Cthulhu R’lyeh wagh’nagl fhtagn."
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:20 am
Just because certain groups refer to Satan/Ha-Satan as Lucifer doesn't mean they're right or correct.
"Ph’nglui mglw’nafh Cthulhu R’lyeh wagh’nagl fhtagn."
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