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Do you hate T2 like me?
Yes
36%
 36%  [ 9 ]
No
64%
 64%  [ 16 ]
Total Votes : 25


Yavimayaassassin

PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 9:14 pm


What do you guys think will be banned come March 1st?
Ravager is getting the axe, but what? I think the artifact lands should go in T2, why? You get rid of disciple the deck is still gas, you hit ravager, it goes back to broodstar affinity, or just uses Tog, hit plating and the deck just adds shrapnel blast or something.........
PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 2:40 am


*agrees with mr. Yavimayaassasin* 3nodding

[Cherry]


Bloody Rose Essence

PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 5:03 am


On the other hand, Affinity being just that tiny bit slower would make all the difference for my rogue equipment deck, which can't quite reliably handle it otherwise...
PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 11:16 am


The only thing that really erks me about T2 is the quality of Mono Black. It's been underpowered ever since Phyrexian Negator, the Daurthis and Hatred.

Leise Nacht


Grombosaur

PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 1:55 pm


Leise Nacht
The only thing that really erks me about T2 is the quality of Mono Black. It's been underpowered ever since Phyrexian Negator, the Daurthis and Hatred.

ARE U ******** RETARDED!!!!!
PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 3:02 pm


flamingdonut
Leise Nacht
The only thing that really erks me about T2 is the quality of Mono Black. It's been underpowered ever since Phyrexian Negator, the Daurthis and Hatred.

ARE U ******** RETARDED!!!!!
Guess he hasn't heard about Cranial Extactions yet...

Greyfox I


Hachigoro

PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 3:08 pm


BAN ALL OF MIRRODIN BLOCK..

i don't think thats plausible....poop.

there is no way to stop affinity. there are just too many cards.
PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 6:00 pm


Hachigoro
BAN ALL OF MIRRODIN BLOCK..

i don't think thats plausible....poop.

there is no way to stop affinity. there are just too many cards.


You can ban some cards and just make it from a broken deck to a good deck, no need to stop it, and thats what most poeple don't understand they don't stop decks, they make them less powerfull, there are rare occasions when banning a card will ruin decks, look at Skullclamp.

Cracovin


Yavimayaassassin

PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 9:36 pm


but the things is, if you weaken affinity too much, you open KCI to be the best deck, it's matchups are amazing vs the field, with it having a tough time vs affinity, you get rid of ravenger, or any other card to weak affinity without hitting cards in KCI, you have the same problem, just a diffrent deck :-/
PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 8:10 am


Black was pretty damn powerful back in Invasion and Oddessy block. Ever hear the huge stink that cards like Spreading Plague and Mutilate caused?

As for the banning, Good Riddance, IMHO. Raffinity has had too long of a stranglehold upon the type 2 environment that it isn't even funny anymore when a Raffinity deck wins local tourneys. Skullclamp was never the problem. Wizards should've targetted the problem on the get go.

Dyshidrosis

Shameless Dog


DustErrant

PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 8:22 am


3nodding Good ridance. I'd be happy with just banning Ravager, Disciple of the Vault, and Cranial Plating...But....Plating is probably going to end up staying. Sucks....lol
PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 9:17 am


No skullclamp was DEF a problem, when tooth and nail went from what it was to elf and nail, and Elf and Nail was THE best deck I have played in a long time, when things like that happen there is something wrong. Skullclamp was retarded, every deck played if it could......

As for affinityI can't wait, I have been competitve Magic for a long time, I have even been on the PT (Pro Tour) so I know quiet a good thing about competitive Magic, and this is the most boring, uninavative, T2 ever sad

Yavimayaassassin


Leise Nacht

PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 10:30 pm


Cranial Extraction is sideboard material, mostly. And yes, I know about all the marvelous combo hate it brings. Mutilate brought black its own Wrath of God, but all it really saw was BU control. Nightmares were fun (with the exception of L's Champion, who was BEAST) and that was that. Psychatog was only half black. Nantuko Shade was the best black out of Odessey, IMO. What did Onslaught get? LOTS of fun zombies and clerics but nothing competitive. Patriarch's Bidding is freakin' awesome, but saw it's major play with Goblins.

Maybe I'm just longing for the good old days I wasn't around for. Sorry, guys.
PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 8:29 am


I unno i just watched someone win a JSS with type 2 monoblack and he worked all of the popular decks. but the main thing i hate about type 2 is that there is like a 10 turn setup for kill exept for afinity if they ban anything they should ban the cards that are free and the vail that would slow dont the deck considerably but thats just my opinion. i think that the way to go is extended extended is fun fast and theres ALOT of deck and its in season. so i hope to see some of u guys at GP Seattle..
l8ter

Forsaken_archer


Cracovin

PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 10:15 pm


DotV is going, so is Cranial Platting, these are the cards that create the biggest problem, they win fast, DotV makes the win go twice as fast, there gone get over it.

Aether Vial isn't going anywhere, it actually slows the deck down, and prepares it for the long games, but with the core cards of raffinity gone its not as good.

Arcbound Ravager is not banned its just a nice card nothing more nothing less.

Artifact lands are not going anywhere, they are really good, but not good enough for bannings, but I wouldn't be suprised to see them go, I can guarantee that you will not see a land cycle like this again.

And I have heard this thrown around, about cards like Shrapnel Blast, Eternal Witness, and various other good cards being banned, there not, deal with it.
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