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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 12:07 pm


I know many people who say that they believe in the death and Resurrection of Jesus Christ call themselves "Christians." But- I've noticed many times in the bible Jesus never said... "My fellow Christians." He never labeled anything he just said "Believe" He never said "Believe in Christianity." he said "Believe in Me"

Of course it's my belief that people who follow Jesus don't want to say "I'm a believe of the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ." Too much of a mouthful, so they shorted it down to Christ, and ianity. Making it into what people believe is an religion... which it's not. Christ came down to earth to abolish religion.

I'd like to say I am a Believer... doesn't matter what I'm believing in as long as it's faith of God that guides me... but I'm curious what other people believe Christianity is.
PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 12:26 pm


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I know many people who say that they believe in the death and Resurrection of Jesus Christ call themselves "Christians." But- I've noticed many times in the bible Jesus never said... "My fellow Christians." He never labeled anything he just said "Believe" He never said "Believe in Christianity." he said "Believe in Me"

Of course it's my belief that people who follow Jesus don't want to say "I'm a believe of the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ." Too much of a mouthful, so they shorted it down to Christ, and ianity. Making it into what people believe is an religion... which it's not. Christ came down to earth to abolish religion.

I'd like to say I am a Believer... doesn't matter what I'm believing in as long as it's faith of God that guides me... but I'm curious what other people believe Christianity is.

I couldn't find a "like" button here, but I think your post deserves one.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 12:47 pm


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I know many people who say that they believe in the death and Resurrection of Jesus Christ call themselves "Christians." But- I've noticed many times in the bible Jesus never said... "My fellow Christians." He never labeled anything he just said "Believe" He never said "Believe in Christianity." he said "Believe in Me"

Of course it's my belief that people who follow Jesus don't want to say "I'm a believe of the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ." Too much of a mouthful, so they shorted it down to Christ, and ianity. Making it into what people believe is an religion... which it's not. Christ came down to earth to abolish religion.

I'd like to say I am a Believer... doesn't matter what I'm believing in as long as it's faith of God that guides me... but I'm curious what other people believe Christianity is.

I couldn't find a "like" button here, but I think your post deserves one.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 1:08 pm


As far as I understand, the term Christian was given by the Romans to the sect of people whom they witnessed pray to "Christus" (Jesus) as if he were a god. It sort of stuck. By then, they Jews had disowned their brothers and sisters who accepted Jesus' gospel.

So "Christianity" could be seen as "the fulfilled revelation of Abraham-believers", or any number of terms that show its connection to Torah.

Also, Jesus would have never called the Jews "my fellow believers in the Anointed One" since any believer in God and him just become part of "the nation of Israel" (Does this mean all Christians are Israeli???? eek ).

Christianity is many things, but it most certainly isn't a "religion" (known for its "charming" lists of to-do's, if not not-to-do's). I believe it's a group of Jesus freaks (said endearingly), who are committed to loving God and their neighbor, not because they think they're good or can be good, but because they are convinced that the Spirit of God lives in them, and they are waiting on some divine wedding to happen and to inherit newly transformed bodies that will enable them to do many things such as: walking through walls, freaking their friends out into thinking they're a ghost, eating not of necessity but pleasure, possible gender neutrality (don't quote me on that one), and chilling with God in the throne room without dying from seeing his face. razz

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 1:15 pm


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As far as I understand, the term Christian was given by the Romans to the sect of people whom they witnessed pray to "Christus" (Jesus) as if he were a god. It sort of stuck. By then, they Jews had disowned their brothers and sisters who accepted Jesus' gospel.

So "Christianity" could be seen as "the fulfilled revelation of Abraham-believers", or any number of terms that show its connection to Torah.

Also, Jesus would have never called the Jews "my fellow believers in the Anointed One" since any believer in God and him just become part of "the nation of Israel" (Does this mean all Christians are Israeli???? eek ).

Christianity is many things, but it most certainly isn't a "religion" (known for its "charming" lists of to-do's, if not not-to-do's). I believe it's a group of Jesus freaks (said endearingly), who are committed to loving God and their neighbor, not because they think they're good or can be good, but because they are convinced that the Spirit of God lives in them, and they are waiting on some divine wedding to happen and to inherit newly transformed bodies that will enable them to do many things such as: walking through walls, freaking their friends out into thinking they're a ghost, eating not of necessity but pleasure, possible gender neutrality (don't quote me on that one), and chilling with God in the throne room without dying from seeing his face. razz


That's a cool way to put it ^^;
PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:11 pm


The word Christian comes from Christ. The word Christ comes from the greek word christos meaning oily.

The Romans knew that Jesus was the Messiah. Messiah means: the anointed one. The Romans knew that Hebrews anointed people or things by using oil.

The Romans didn't fully grasp the Holy significants of anointing so their translation of Messiah is really lacking.

Jesus Christ = Jesus the oily one
Messiah = the anointed one

Christian is a term that was coined a long time after Jesus's time on earth.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:04 pm


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I know many people who say that they believe in the death and Resurrection of Jesus Christ call themselves "Christians." But- I've noticed many times in the bible Jesus never said... "My fellow Christians." He never labeled anything he just said "Believe" He never said "Believe in Christianity." he said "Believe in Me"
yeah because the term "Christians"/"Crestians" post dates him.

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Of course it's my belief that people who follow Jesus don't want to say "I'm a believe of the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ." Too much of a mouthful, so they shorted it down to Christ, and ianity. Making it into what people believe is an religion... which it's not. Christ came down to earth to abolish religion.
Religion is a set of beliefs and practices. Yes Christianity is a religion but one does not have to go about following such things without thinking or being a drone. That is why the law kills and cannot save anyone. You can't live a full life and follow Christ if you are mindlessly regurgitating words you don't understand and doing things out of conditioning.

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I'd like to say I am a Believer... doesn't matter what I'm believing in as long as it's faith of God that guides me... but I'm curious what other people believe Christianity is.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:05 pm


Two things come to mind when I hear "Christianity".

One is a serene being who has devoted their life to God and tries to be as kind a caregiver to all people, plants, animals, etc. that they meet.

The other thing that comes to mind is a not very flattering and rather angry.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:08 pm


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Two things come to mind when I hear "Christianity".

One is a serene being who has devoted their life to God and tries to be as kind a caregiver to all people, plants, animals, etc. that they meet.

The other thing that comes to mind is a not very flattering and rather angry.
Same here.
PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 2:19 am


cool topic smile
In a 'religious way' it is certainly one faith of many flavors, so its pretty hard to describe with a few words, but i'm in complete agreement that it's not a 'religion'. I find it interesting how the word 'christian' isn't used in the bible, but instead is called 'the church' or 'Body/Bride of Christ'

But anyways, I have come across the statement of what makes one a 'christian', in a sense of what no other belief system will agree with, is the acceptance of Jesus Christ as their Savior. But other than that, the process of becoming a lot more 'Christ-like', the type of change and living one will go through because of what Christ did for them. And at the same time, how that individual is an example to others, even without their notice. And how its all the product of Gods love and how moving and alive the holy spirit is in them, to such a degree, it drives them to great points their life.
There's most likely a lot more to say than this, but i put it into words as hard as i can.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 5:26 pm


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But anyways, I have come across the statement of what makes one a 'christian', in a sense of what no other belief system will agree with, is the acceptance of Jesus Christ as their Savior. But other than that, the process of becoming a lot more 'Christ-like', the type of change and living one will go through because of what Christ did for them. And at the same time, how that individual is an example to others, even without their notice. And how its all the product of Gods love and how moving and alive the holy spirit is in them, to such a degree, it drives them to great points their life.
There's most likely a lot more to say than this, but i put it into words as hard as i can.


I think you hit it in the nose with that.
Well said.
PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 5:03 pm


First off, If Jesus came to abolish religion then why in Matthew 16:18 does he say “You are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church.” He not only establishes his church but gives primacy to Peter among all the apostles.

"and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it. I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven."

We also get that Peter is the first Pope, and has the power to forgive sins.
As of today, there have been 265 Popes in direct succession to Peter.

I know the succession is a little hazy during the time of the Schism, and that the leaders of the Church haven't always been uncorrupt, but again, we are all human and even the church can make mistakes.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 6:59 pm


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First off, If Jesus came to abolish religion then why in Matthew 16:18 does he say “You are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church.” He not only establishes his church but gives primacy to Peter among all the apostles.

"and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it. I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven."

We also get that Peter is the first Pope, and has the power to forgive sins.
As of today, there have been 265 Popes in direct succession to Peter.

I know the succession is a little hazy during the time of the Schism, and that the leaders of the Church haven't always been uncorrupt, but again, we are all human and even the church can make mistakes.
I don't anyone here is saying that the idea of church is bad. Church when you get right down to the root meaning is a community of believers. All communities are going to have leaders of some kind. Did Jesus leave leaders in charge? Yes. But as you pointed out leaders are human. Just because someone is in charge doesn't always mean they are right. Fortunately Christ did leave us with the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of Truth to aid us (John 16:13). We are each have the breath of God inside each of us (Gen 2:7). As children of God we each have a right to listen to our conscience and the Spirit of Truth to give us strength when we disagree with a leader. Does this mean there will be no hardship? Heavens no, even Christ suffered. But since Christ is of the same substance as the Holy Spirit, Christ is Truth. Truth may be killed but if it is Truth then it will not remain dead. It will resurrect. If we are in error, then error will perish like all material things. But if we are with truth, truth will not die, it will resurrect and grow.
PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:20 pm


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No, but Jos K Kitten did say that "Christ came down to earth to abolish religion." Which is not a true statement. He came to save us from original sin, and set the law straight.

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