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 Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:47 pm
My dad wants me to record a program, nothing new there... but the program sounds like an anti-Obama thing.
But, if something is true, it is sad... Mit held a tele-conference with some 100,000 Catholics, but Obama's people are now calling the people saying that, because Mit is a Morman, they shouldn't vote for him.
To me that is beyond stupid, if you can't get them by facts or by half-baked promises lets get them by telling them because of religious differences you can't vote for the guy that took time to talk to you... I want to start the limbo chant "how low can you go? how low can you go?"
So far I can say their is one thing, Mit has over Obama for me... One, he said "May God Bless America"... I know it is stupid, but to me saying "God bless", sounds like you are ordering him to... May, sounds like you are asking...
Is it enough to own a vote from me, no... but still a mark up over the other guy... end of rant...
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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:53 pm
I'd like to fact check that. What's the name of the program?
Well for me Obama is the lesser of the two evils. While there are some things that Obama passed I think are quite horrible, namely a bill that allows indefinite detention of US citizens (NDAA), Romney just rubs me the wrong way and seems too much of a waffle to me.
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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 11:04 pm
rmcdra I'd like to fact check that. What's the name of the program? Well for me Obama is the lesser of the two evils. While there are some things that Obama passed I think are quite horrible, namely a bill that allows indefinite detention of US citizens (NDAA), Romney just rubs me the wrong way and seems too much of a waffle to me. The program my dad told me to record, is called Glenn Beck... I can't figure out if it is Glenn Beck Radio, or Glenn Beck Program. Their both on the same channel, he said it was on(The Blaze[Channel 212 here]).
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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 11:08 pm
Southern Cross Nemesis rmcdra I'd like to fact check that. What's the name of the program? Well for me Obama is the lesser of the two evils. While there are some things that Obama passed I think are quite horrible, namely a bill that allows indefinite detention of US citizens (NDAA), Romney just rubs me the wrong way and seems too much of a waffle to me. The program my dad told me to record, is called Glenn Beck... I can't figure out if it is Glenn Beck Radio, or Glenn Beck Program. Their both on the same channel, he said it was on(The Blaze[Channel 212 here]). Ugh Glenn Beck. I'd definitely will want to fact check that then. He was on record calling progressive Christians communist because of supporting social justice.
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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 11:17 pm
please do, cause I have no idea.. I just know it wasn't the only show I heard that on... the other one, I don't know the name, cause I was in the kitchen, cooking, when the hosts talked about it as well.
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Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 6:14 am
I don't know about his religion and I don't really care. Most would think that a social group that teaches certain morals would be a great way of categorizing you, but in fact it is not. Romney should be judged by his actions alone, not his religious beliefs.
I do know he apparently said he can't help 47% of America, he believes that portion does not want to help themselves. However, I don't know exactly how that was worded. It was interpreted as him saying he doesn't care.
On the other hand, when an American film maker started a riot in Egypt and the American embassy requested aid from Obama, Obama told them they didn't need any more support and that they would be fine. Five people died, Obama blamed Clinton (who I can find no connection to that event in any way whatsoever), and it was Romney who went overseas to personally apologize to the people who were insulted enough to riot. THAT is what a leader does, he takes responsibility. Obama is not a leader. He's a lucky young irresponsible and incompetent individual who managed to trick people into thinking he would help them, that he could help them. I see Romney's mention of not being able to as possibly one of the most honest statements a presidential candidate has given yet.
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Lord Alucard Ere Casanova
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Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 8:22 am
Lord Kilo Von Mortenson I do know he apparently said he can't help 47% of America, he believes that portion does not want to help themselves. However, I don't know exactly how that was worded. It was interpreted as him saying he doesn't care. He called them mooches, etc. videoLord Kilo Von Mortenson On the other hand, when an American film maker started a riot in Egypt and the American embassy requested aid from Obama, Obama told them they didn't need any more support and that they would be fine. Five people died, Obama blamed Clinton (who I can find no connection to that event in any way whatsoever), and it was Romney who went overseas to personally apologize to the people who were insulted enough to riot. THAT is what a leader does, he takes responsibility. Obama is not a leader. He's a lucky young irresponsible and incompetent individual who managed to trick people into thinking he would help them, that he could help them. I see Romney's mention of not being able to as possibly one of the most honest statements a presidential candidate has given yet. Do you have proof of this? That Romney went overseas and apologized? Romney went on air after the terrorist attacks in Libya and the riot in Egypt and criticized the Egyptian ambassador and the President for a supposed apology. a source
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Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 8:31 am
Southern Cross Nemesis please do, cause I have no idea.. I just know it wasn't the only show I heard that on... the other one, I don't know the name, cause I was in the kitchen, cooking, when the hosts talked about it as well. One of the mistakes this site made was it claimed that Planned Parenthood promotes abortion. Planned Parenthood promotes education about, duh, parenthood and if the mother is seriously considering abortion, then they promote education about abortions. They don't actively tell people to get abortions.
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Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 8:45 am
Found another article...Interesting, but so far, no proof of a group actually doing this has been given. SourceThe phone banker making the call, which in this case went to a woman Hudson identifies as "the head of a pro-life committee at a parish I know" reportedly also asserted that "President Obama did not support abortion" and that Planned Parenthood "helps children get healthcare and prenatal care and does not promote abortion." In fact, the group is one of the nation's largest abortion providers.Hudson is just telling people to rely on what he says is fact, not what has been proven or disproven. This election is an ugly one and racism and religion are getting bandied about like children with bubbles, but the ******** citizens need to do more and better fact checking. Why just last week I saw an article that said the Health Care Plan was written by nothing but democrats and that it contained a phrase in it that meant Jihad Law. Well, it was so easy to disprove that I was disgusted with the people that were posting it all over the place. Some of them I thought were intellectuals.
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Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 8:57 am
deadmanjay Lord Kilo Von Mortenson On the other hand, when an American film maker started a riot in Egypt and the American embassy requested aid from Obama, Obama told them they didn't need any more support and that they would be fine. Five people died, Obama blamed Clinton (who I can find no connection to that event in any way whatsoever), and it was Romney who went overseas to personally apologize to the people who were insulted enough to riot. THAT is what a leader does, he takes responsibility. Obama is not a leader. He's a lucky young irresponsible and incompetent individual who managed to trick people into thinking he would help them, that he could help them. I see Romney's mention of not being able to as possibly one of the most honest statements a presidential candidate has given yet. Do you have proof of this? That Romney went overseas and apologized? Romney went on air after the terrorist attacks in Libya and the riot in Egypt and criticized the Egyptian ambassador and the President for a supposed apology. a sourcePerhaps later I'll look up the source I had. I looked up several sites to read what all the hype was about that and found several quotes stating that while Obama seemed desperate to blame anyone other than himself, whose fault it was, Romney apologized. What I am referring to is specifically that riot and a "prophet" who was insulted by the video being made. What I had meant was that Romney apologized to the prophet. To be honest, I would rather not vote for Romney or Obama. Neither of them are good enough in my opinion. I would put Romney above Obama, but in the end it is only because Romney hasn't had the opportunity to screw us over quite like Obama has. I have seen more leadership qualities in Romney, most of which Obama lacks entirely, but I'm sure that is only because he wants the votes. He's a politician and so he is not to be trusted.
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Lord Alucard Ere Casanova
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Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 3:02 pm
One site that really helps with finding perspective is www.factcheck.org.
I despise Glen Beck, Rush Limbaugh, and to a lesser extent Shawn Hannity... But their radio programs do keep me awake when I am going to work early or coming home from work really late.
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Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 8:22 pm
Be careful with Mitt Romney...Then again... he denies it as doctrine... so... I guess he is an alright guy. But I have never really trusted Mormons. Considering I haven known some to disown family members for stupid reasons... like not being Mormon... seriously. But I am from New Zealand, and do not really care much for America... it's already in the crapper, can't make it much worse... Ron Paul seemed to be a good choice I reckon... if you wanted Republican. Though old people have never been much of a choice, due to them possibly dying during their term and all that crap...
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Contralto in a Corset Vice Captain
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 7:49 pm
Lord Kilo Von Mortenson I don't know about his religion and I don't really care. Most would think that a social group that teaches certain morals would be a great way of categorizing you, but in fact it is not. Romney should be judged by his actions alone, not his religious beliefs. I do know he apparently said he can't help 47% of America, he believes that portion does not want to help themselves. However, I don't know exactly how that was worded. It was interpreted as him saying he doesn't care. On the other hand, when an American film maker started a riot in Egypt and the American embassy requested aid from Obama, Obama told them they didn't need any more support and that they would be fine. Quote: Five people died, Obama blamed Clinton (who I can find no connection to that event in any way whatsoever), and it was Romney who went overseas to personally apologize to the people who were insulted enough to riot. Quote: THAT is what a leader does, he takes responsibility. Obama is not a leader. He's a lucky young irresponsible and incompetent individual who managed to trick people into thinking he would help them, that he could help them. I see Romney's mention of not being able to as possibly one of the most honest statements a presidential candidate has given yet.
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 9:53 pm
X - Citation Needed - X Lord Kilo Von Mortenson I don't know about his religion and I don't really care. Most would think that a social group that teaches certain morals would be a great way of categorizing you, but in fact it is not. Romney should be judged by his actions alone, not his religious beliefs. I do know he apparently said he can't help 47% of America, he believes that portion does not want to help themselves. However, I don't know exactly how that was worded. It was interpreted as him saying he doesn't care. On the other hand, when an American film maker started a riot in Egypt and the American embassy requested aid from Obama, Obama told them they didn't need any more support and that they would be fine. Quote: Five people died, Obama blamed Clinton (who I can find no connection to that event in any way whatsoever), and it was Romney who went overseas to personally apologize to the people who were insulted enough to riot. Sadly, I can't find any of my sources so now even I am questioning what I said. It was on yahoo news, my wife showed it to me on her computer. If I can find them again I'll post them, until then I won't make references to what I saw there. It may have been faulty info and as such would be removed. X - Citation Needed - X Quote: THAT is what a leader does, he takes responsibility. Obama is not a leader. He's a lucky young irresponsible and incompetent individual who managed to trick people into thinking he would help them, that he could help them. I see Romney's mention of not being able to as possibly one of the most honest statements a presidential candidate has given yet. Actually it is in fact a fact. For this I can post sources. Obama made several hundred promises before being elected and the majority of them would actually be unconstitutional for him to keep, no matter how many people applauded his ideas. Legalizing same sex marriage in California, for example, he has no power there as president. Congress makes laws, Obama passes or vetoes them, but even so that is federal law and not individual state law. That is one example of many. There are certain qualities by which a person can be judged and it is natural human nature to make certain comparisons. If you would argue that, there are allot of titles that we need to stop using if we don't want to be judgmental. "Criminal" being one of many, "hero" being another. Blaming others for your own failures is not a leadership trait, making promises you can not possibly keep is not a leadership trait, using racism or other threats/accusations of discrimination in order to earn favor is not a leadership trait, this list goes on and on and it all refers to Obama. Source 1; A list of Obama's broken promises Source 2; So as to be thorough, a list of Obama's kept promises. Source 3; A very, very nicely organized page with our Constitution. You can scroll down or click a link and go straight to the article or amendment you desire. I suggest bookmarking this for quick references, if you don't already have something of the sort. You can use the Constitution to cross-check Obama's promises and see just how many of them he could not possibly have kept even if he had wanted to. Source 4; the Marines' list of leadership traits. Based on his own actions I believe I can honestly say Obama lacks a clear sense of justice, his judgement is impaired by greed, his dependability is nearly nilch, I question his initiative, since he went directly against a large number of his promises we know his decisiveness or at the very least integrity is lacking, he has no genuine enthusiasm, the condition of our country and the vacations of his wife make it clear he is certainly not unselfish, his inability to take responsibiliy for his mistakes makes it clear that (by the definition given in the link) he has no courage, and having betrayed his own people by the previously mentioned shortcomings I'd say he lacks loyalty. The only things on that list that I'd say he might have are tact, bearing, and knowledge. Considering he puts up with people calling him out for being a failure, maybe endurance as well. 4/23 leadership traits as clarified by the U.S. Marines' list of leadership traits. Obama is not a leader. He's a fool wearing a paper crown.Edit: Disclaimer; The underlined text is my own personal opinion based on the facts mentioned previously about Obama.
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Lord Alucard Ere Casanova
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Contralto in a Corset Vice Captain
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 6:45 am
Lord Kilo Von Mortenson X - Citation Needed - X Lord Kilo Von Mortenson I don't know about his religion and I don't really care. Most would think that a social group that teaches certain morals would be a great way of categorizing you, but in fact it is not. Romney should be judged by his actions alone, not his religious beliefs. I do know he apparently said he can't help 47% of America, he believes that portion does not want to help themselves. However, I don't know exactly how that was worded. It was interpreted as him saying he doesn't care. On the other hand, when an American film maker started a riot in Egypt and the American embassy requested aid from Obama, Obama told them they didn't need any more support and that they would be fine. Quote: Five people died, Obama blamed Clinton (who I can find no connection to that event in any way whatsoever), and it was Romney who went overseas to personally apologize to the people who were insulted enough to riot. Sadly, I can't find any of my sources so now even I am questioning what I said. It was on yahoo news, my wife showed it to me on her computer. If I can find them again I'll post them, until then I won't make references to what I saw there. It may have been faulty info and as such would be removed. X - Citation Needed - X Quote: THAT is what a leader does, he takes responsibility. Obama is not a leader. He's a lucky young irresponsible and incompetent individual who managed to trick people into thinking he would help them, that he could help them. I see Romney's mention of not being able to as possibly one of the most honest statements a presidential candidate has given yet. Actually it is in fact a fact. For this I can post sources. Obama made several hundred promises before being elected and the majority of them would actually be unconstitutional for him to keep, no matter how many people applauded his ideas. Legalizing same sex marriage in California, for example, he has no power there as president. Congress makes laws, Obama passes or vetoes them, but even so that is federal law and not individual state law. That is one example of many. There are certain qualities by which a person can be judged and it is natural human nature to make certain comparisons. If you would argue that, there are allot of titles that we need to stop using if we don't want to be judgmental. "Criminal" being one of many, "hero" being another. Blaming others for your own failures is not a leadership trait, making promises you can not possibly keep is not a leadership trait, using racism or other threats/accusations of discrimination in order to earn favor is not a leadership trait, this list goes on and on and it all refers to Obama. Source 1; A list of Obama's broken promises Source 2; So as to be thorough, a list of Obama's kept promises. Source 3; A very, very nicely organized page with our Constitution. You can scroll down or click a link and go straight to the article or amendment you desire. I suggest bookmarking this for quick references, if you don't already have something of the sort. You can use the Constitution to cross-check Obama's promises and see just how many of them he could not possibly have kept even if he had wanted to. Source 4; the Marines' list of leadership traits. Based on his own actions I believe I can honestly say Obama lacks a clear sense of justice, his judgement is impaired by greed, his dependability is nearly nilch, I question his initiative, since he went directly against a large number of his promises we know his decisiveness or at the very least integrity is lacking, he has no genuine enthusiasm, the condition of our country and the vacations of his wife make it clear he is certainly not unselfish, his inability to take responsibiliy for his mistakes makes it clear that (by the definition given in the link) he has no courage, and having betrayed his own people by the previously mentioned shortcomings I'd say he lacks loyalty. The only things on that list that I'd say he might have are tact, bearing, and knowledge. Considering he puts up with people calling him out for being a failure, maybe endurance as well. 4/23 leadership traits as clarified by the U.S. Marines' list of leadership traits. Obama is not a leader. He's a fool wearing a paper crown.Edit: Disclaimer; The underlined text is my own personal opinion based on the facts mentioned previously about Obama. ...And you believe Mitt Romney to be a BETTER candidate? Even after commenting that OBAMA is greedy? Also curious where you get that Obama is greedy, when he took the lower paying public sector work after getting a harvard law education that could have had him paid several times more than he has ever made, while Romney made a career of laying people off.
And then listing the Marine traits? Let's see, here...
Justice - Being Fair and Consistent. Flip Flop Romney, no, not consistent.
Judgement - Think about things clearly, calmly, so you can make good decisions. Such as when he berates Obama for things that Obama never actually said, or when they scream about things in Obama's bills...that are in their own bills, as well.
Dependability - again, Romney? Dependable?
Tact - Maintain good relations and avoid problems. Given the office of Commander in Chief, and most visible representative of the US, a very important position. And yet, by his own admission, Romney doesn't represent nearly half of the US, and insults them. Many of them being retired Marines and disabled veterans themselves.
Integrity - Ha.
Enthusiasm - As mentioned before, he has no interests in half the population.
Unselfishness - Need I even mention this? He made a living by laying people off so as to pad his own bank account, he wants his own taxes lowered so as to shift the burden on to lower classes with less to spare(the opposite of what Christ told the prince to do in the gospels), and why not, the guy left his dog on the roof of his car for a 12 hour drive.
Courage - He protested in favor of the Draft, and then took a religious deferment.
Loyalty - Again, 47%.
Endurance - Not much to go on here. But let's see him go up against the PotUS in a game of hoops, and see who better qualifies, eh? biggrin
As for Initiative, Decisiveness, and Knowledge, there's not much difference between the two candidates. I'll give him bearing, as experience as a CEO definitely gives him the edge in that regard. However, I do still find it ironic that you would chose a list of Marine traits for application when a draft dodger is part of the question.
As for the rest, I will need to look more closely after I have stopped fo rthe day. Apologies, but given my career, that could be at least 12 hours from now.
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