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What is hard to remember when you're pro-life is that if you're pro-choice, an abortion is no different than a tonsilectomy. I've argued against this a million times, but it is what they believe. When you feel the need to abort, it is a lot harder to deal with it if you think of your offspring as a person. In order to deal with it, a lot of women start dehumanizing the child in her mind. It's harder to do the later you are along because once you're feeling the baby moving in you, it's harder to say, "This isn't my baby, this is a lump of cells."

Abortion is pushed as the only way out by a lot of people in society. Some choice, eh? But if I had someone killed in a possibly excrutiating way, I wouldn't be able to live with myself, especially if that person was my own child, unless the child became a growth in my mind instead of my offspring.

it's the same in war, the same in the holocaust- the enemy must be dehumanized- they must not be humans with lives, families. the civilians are not human either- everyone from said country or race is not human. it makes it that much easier to kill- they justify it all they want, protecting their country, stopping an evil government, looking for weapons. the truth is, we want three things- money, control, and to swagger our power as a world leader.

anyway, in abortion, the woman made a choice she would rather not deal with- her options- go through a few months of discomfort, or kill the child and be done with it- which is cheaper, btw. now, she begins to look at the killing option- at first, it is cold and harsh- until she begins to justify it with excuses, how the thing inside will never be human, or that if she were aborted she wouldn't be here to care, or that things can't be judged by what they might be - they then try to rationalize these thoughts by finding support and evidence of their ideas, even if they are biased or misleading- i notice, to prove this, that whenever a pro-choice person shows a picture of abortion, it is the earliest possible, maybe a week old, thus showing pretty mcuh nothing. more common would be a few weeks in, when pain can be felt and a heart exists.

yes, it really is disgusting... i believe i have seen somewhere that fetuses actually have a sense of touch before their heart beats- like, 6 weeks i think, for the sense of touch... i might be confusing it for something else, but i do know that at the minimum, a late first trimester fetus can feel- this includes pain. the pain of say, being twisted apart with a vice.

The heart is beating, the heart needs a brain to tell it to keep beatyign other wise it will stop. So the impulses in the brain must be more then mere electircle impulses, the brain is doing somthing.

btw, i was very happy with how they treated the fetus- they are likely pro-life, they had no mention of abortion. they also showed women who spoke movingly about how they had a miscarriage- at about the same time a woman would abort hers...i think it was a subliminal way of saying "these lives matter"

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they are useless scum- no feeling for life, and thus, no feeling a value of procreation- sex is just to feel good, damn everything else, THEY never have to deal with a decision, make a choice, think. they just spread their seed, to be killed or brought up in less than desirable conditions... it is so easy to just pretend that nothing matters, that life is not real, that pleasure is just that and nothing will result from your actions...