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jayon

PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 5:09 pm


- Now, I don't believe in reincarnation, but I know some who do. Although off the wall to me, it is still interesting. I'd hate to come back as a fly or whatever, but of course some beliefs on this is that there is only progression as long as you are 'good' or something (which is relative).

- I don't really agree with it, but find the topic fascinating. Please add what you think of the subject of reincarnation...
PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 4:50 pm


*I don't really think this belongs here, but hey, I'd like to b***h about something*
Ok, I do NOT belive in reincarnation. The idea of dying as a human and coming back as an animal just doesn't sound right to me. Coming back as a human wouldn't make any sense, because you wouldn't have your memories, so it really wouldn't be you. Right...I'll leave now sweatdrop ...

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Lady Kiava

PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 5:06 pm


Reincarnation, to me, is something that is constant. Every soul is reborn and every soul has to deal with the consequences that their actions have created for them, and their future lives.

Heaven and hell are only the lives that we create for ourselves. Everything that happens to us in this life is a reaction to the life before We are destined to learn from those actions.
PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 6:09 pm


I do not believe in it, but I can understand why some do. When you die, your sould goes either to heaven or to hell, and that is where it remains for eternity (or until judgment day if you believe in it).

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Alissa Meningford

PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 4:34 pm


I've heard stories that point towards the possibility of past lives, and I find the idea fascinating. 3nodding
The eastern idea of reincarnation sounds a bit unsound to me though.
So no, I don't believe in reincarnation.

-Alezunde
PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 5:07 pm


Alezunde
I've heard stories that point towards the possibility of past lives, and I find the idea fascinating. 3nodding
The eastern idea of reincarnation sounds a bit unsound to me though.
So no, I don't believe in reincarnation.

-Alezunde


- I didn't expect many to believe in it. To have a solid belief in that one has to beleive that we exist after we are dead and that's not to solid in and of itself. Either way though it is interesting the people that get pulled into that sort of thing and the stories that they believe...

jayon


Starlock

PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 5:12 pm


Ahh, one of my favorite topics. A lot of people seem to have very limiting ideas of what reincarnation means. Reincarnation can be interpreted in lots and lots of ways, more than just "human... coming back as an animal" as Kimp braught up. That's just one take on reincarnation... there are many mmore that haven't been braught up here yet. I'm not familiar with all of the concepts of reincarnation, but I'll give a few examples of it that haven't been mentioned yet.

Some believe that when we die, we go to a land to contemplate the next lesson we which to learn. We are reborn over and over again, into many forms and many places, all to learn new lessons in the wheels of life.

Others believe we are reborn over and over again, with the goal of getting out of the cycle of rebirth by purifying the mind, body, and spirit to unify with the All.

Others still believe in reincarnation in a more physical, scientific sense. When we die, our bodies decay into their original elements and are 'reborn' into new organisms.

With so many views on what reincarnation is, it becomes difficult to discuss unless we first determine which kind of reincarnation we are talking about. So, which one should we take a look at first? smile
PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 12:06 pm


Starlock

With so many views on what reincarnation is, it becomes difficult to discuss unless we first determine which kind of reincarnation we are talking about. So, which one should we take a look at first? smile


Oh, I suppose the ones about us existing again as ourselves (as we would define ourselves...) again after we are dead. Of course, self is a difficult thing to define also...

jayon


Starlock

PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 6:19 pm


jayon
Starlock

With so many views on what reincarnation is, it becomes difficult to discuss unless we first determine which kind of reincarnation we are talking about. So, which one should we take a look at first? smile


Oh, I suppose the ones about us existing again as ourselves (as we would define ourselves...) again after we are dead. Of course, self is a difficult thing to define also...


Well, I took it to mean that you are the exact same self in this life as you are in the next life. Everything is the same. I can't think of any documented system offhand that believes this, though.
PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 11:09 pm


I believe in reincarnation; I've had numreous flashes of places that seem strangly familiar and have had a couple experiences of deja vu.

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Starlock

PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 4:34 pm


Whozit
I believe in reincarnation; I've had numreous flashes of places that seem strangly familiar and have had a couple experiences of deja vu.


If I remember right, deja vu happens when one half of your brain percieves incoming information faster than the other half. So, you feel like you've experienced it twice or have familiarity because your brain HAS experienced it twice a few fractions of a second earlier. Other times, maybe you actually HAVE seen these things before in real life but don't remember it consciously. Our memories are very imperfect things. =)
PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 4:19 pm


I do to some extent.

If you insist on reading material to back me up, Descartes' "Discourse on Method" is absolutely phenomenal. Because you cannot trust in anything that you percieve... besides your own thought (how can think in order to disprove thought?), thus... birth and death have no relevence to your thinking mind. ...With further analysis, it's as if I am an eternal being that is just trying to amuse myself, so I suppose that I would just go through several lives to bide my time.

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bonkiep

PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 2:10 pm


Personally, any kind of reincarnation seems a bit sketchy to me. I mean what are the odds that a metaphysical part of you (your soul) could inheret a new body, or be reborn into the same body for that matter? It seems odd that such a cycle of rebirth could exist. On another note, what is there to back the idea up besides thesis and belief? (not that that isn't the case with most subjects in philosophy...)

I personally take my belief on this subject not only from the context of my own religion, but the much better sited works of Epicurus. "With your last breath, your entire being is gone. There is nothing more after death." - or in some sense of the terms.

As far as the scientific reference to reincarnation, it seemed moreover a statement about spontaneous generation, which has been disproved many times over... And it hardly seems like rebirth when your physical being rots away to give way to the soils. xp
PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 3:22 pm


I don't believe in any sort of reincarnation. I believe we are purely physical beings with nothing outside of our perception, and information gained from it. When we die, that's that, our temporal vessel is gone, and with it our temporal minds. The reason reincarnation can't be true, in my opinion, is that our minds ARE physical. Once that reality is gone, Our "soul" is too.

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Nanie Chama

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 7:58 am


I personally don't believe in reincarnation, but I do know of other faiths that do.
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