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 Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 6:05 pm
I was wondering a while ago, what are people's secret theories about stuff in the HP universe that was never fully explained?
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Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 6:29 pm
I'm the books((Fourth to be exact))It was stayed that Prior Incatantem can only happen when two brother wands with the same core try to harm each other.
Now, in the 7th movies, Harry and Voldort are doing Proor Incantatem even though Harry is using his wand, and throughout the film, the wands of different people and Voldemort is using the elder wand.
This, to me, was no mistake. It was just evidence that the filmakers didn't read the books and/or just wanted to make the movie how ever and confuse the readers at the same time.
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Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 6:48 pm
Radiant Mercy I'm the books((Fourth to be exact))It was stayed that Prior Incatantem can only happen when two brother wands with the same core try to harm each other. Now, in the 7th movies, Harry and Voldort are doing Proor Incantatem even though Harry is using his wand, and throughout the film, the wands of different people and Voldemort is using the elder wand. This, to me, was no mistake. It was just evidence that the filmakers didn't read the books and/or just wanted to make the movie how ever and confuse the readers at the same time. Priori Incantatum Means "Prior Enchantment," And can be used between any two wands. In the books {7th} Voldemort DOES use the Elder Wand, whilst Harry uses Draco's.
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Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 11:17 pm
The whole Horcrux thing bothers me. Tom Riddle, aka Moldyshorts, would have gone with a magically powerful number, either three or seven. In this case, it was seven. There is, supposedly, a ritual that one has to go through to create a Horcrux, to split off the piece of soul to be used and to prepare the vessel that contains it. So, although it was stated that Harry was an accidental Horcrux, it stands to reason that ol' Moldy had already done the ritual and was planning to use the death of the only one who could defeat him to create another Horcrux, thereby creating a seven-part soul, which was his goal.
My question is, why the hell would he create another Horcrux using Nagini, thus creating an eight-part soul? I mean, Harry may have been an accident and Voldemort might not have known, but it would be logical to assume that the soul piece had split off when he tried to kill Harry. Shouldn't he have been able to, even faintly, sense something? You know, just to make sure that his Horcruxes were safe?
And I know this doesn't really have anything to do with my rant, but I'm currently watching HP and the PS (even though it's, currently, 1:17 AM here). Is it just me, or does the Bloody Baron remind anyone else of Captain Hook?
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Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 11:24 pm
Scorned Nightmare The whole Horcrux thing bothers me. Tom Riddle, aka Moldyshorts, would have gone with a magically powerful number, either three or seven. In this case, it was seven. There is, supposedly, a ritual that one has to go through to create a Horcrux, to split off the piece of soul to be used and to prepare the vessel that contains it. So, although it was stated that Harry was an accidental Horcrux, it stands to reason that ol' Moldy had already done the ritual and was planning to use the death of the only one who could defeat him to create another Horcrux, thereby creating a seven-part soul, which was his goal.
My question is, why the hell would he create another Horcrux using Nagini, thus creating an eight-part soul? I mean, Harry may have been an accident and Voldemort might not have known, but it would be logical to assume that the soul piece had split off when he tried to kill Harry. Shouldn't he have been able to, even faintly, sense something? You know, just to make sure that his Horcruxes were safe?
And I know this doesn't really have anything to do with my rant, but I'm currently watching HP and the PS (even though it's, currently, 1:17 AM here). Is it just me, or does the Bloody Baron remind anyone else of Captain Hook? I have the feeling Moldyfarts didn't realize what had happened when he created the Harrycrux because by that time his soul was so fragmented/diminished, he couldn't sense the separation. Can't remember the BB. I may have to borrow the movies.
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Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 11:25 pm
Unanswerable question: Was Horcrux!Tom Riddle sexually using Ginny Weasley as well as possessing her?
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Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 11:57 pm
That's a disturbing thought. I might read some of the weirder HP fanfics, but that's just squicky.
Here's another one. Harry was supposedly saved by his mother's love and willing blood sacrifice. But how many other mothers died for their child? James and Lily were both offered a place at Voldy's side, so it's probable that he offered the same to other powerful witches and wizards the same opportunity. And I doubt it was the Prophecy at work, because that stupid thing was self-fulfilling.
And you could just Google the Baron. Lot easier.
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 12:44 am
Another point: In CoS: when Harry was stabbed with the Basilisk fang, why didn't the Horcrux die then?! Ron specifically used a Basilisk fang in book 7!!!
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:14 am
 
I dunno, but it was never really clear to me how Harry became the 7th Horcrux of Voldy. Dumby said that Harry must be killed by Voldy so that the piece of soul inside Harry will be destroyed. But Harry will not die because Voldy anchored Harry to life by taking Harry's blood inside his own. In all essence, Voldy and Harry shared "one" blood. Doesn't it mean that Voldy too is anchored to life because Harry's blood is in him and Harry is still living? And yet he died...
Also, what really killed Voldy? The Avada Kedavra or the Expelliarmus? I mean, the two spells just collided right? In all 7 books, there wasn't anything stated that when two spells collide it will redound back to its caster (except for the twin cores, but then it's also a different story).
Lastly, there's a scene in Book 5 when Ginny said to Harry that she was two years older than them when she was possessed by Voldy so she has the right to join the group going to the Department of Mysteries. Two years older?! Does that mean that she's late in coming to Hogwarts, that she's actually 17 years old in that Book? I dunno... but sometimes, Rowling's wording's a bit weird sweatdrop
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:07 am
I think part of the reason that the basilisk venom didn't kill Harry is the fact that the Horcrux was anchored to his scar, and the venom hadn't spread quite that far by the time Fawkes healed him. It's possible that the venom has to touch the anchor.
As for Voldy's death, it was explained that Voldy had thought that the Elder Wand was now his, when in fact its true master was Draco Malfoy, as he was the one to disarm Dumbledore. It doesn't matter that Voldy stole the wand from Dumbledore's tomb. Harry "defeated" Malfoy by taking his wand, and thus winning the allegiance of the Elder Wand. Even though Harry faced Voldy while using Malfoy's wand, the Elder Wand recognized its true master and refused to kill him, so Death's magic, still strong in the Wand, bent the spell (if that makes any sense) and rebounds it onto Voldemort. Because Voldy had lost all of his soul pieces by this time, except for whatever was left in his body, he had no way of coming back, even through Harry, as he no longer contained a soul piece. With Harry's blood, he overcame Lily's blood protection, but it didn't really anchor them together. Harry's blood mixed with Voldy's and, in a way, mutated. Because of that, the magic in the Wand could easily sever whatever connection was there because of the blood, and kill only Voldy.
As for Ginny, I'm not sure on that. Her birthdate was August 11, 1981, so she started at Hogwarts roughly three weeks after her eleventh birthday. ... Wait, now that I think about it, I think I get it. Harry didn't want Ginny going to the DoM because it was going to be too dangerous, and she might get hurt or killed, and they considered her too young. She was pointing out the fact that she was fifteen, three years older than Harry had been when he fought Voldie over the Stone, and two years older than Harry and Ron had been when they had gone into the Chamber to save her, and that situation had been potentially more dangerous. She was basically saying she had the benefit of more practice and a larger repertoire of spells, as well as a better idea of what to expect. At least, that's the way it looks from when I skimmed through.
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Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:23 am
In reguards to Ginny in OoP, she just seemed to be desperate to get in on the action, and rather forced her way in... I have to admit Im not a Ginny fan.
What annoyed me the most was the way that everything was sorta thrown together rapidly in then 7th book. It just seemed to go too quickly. Dumbledore spent years discovering everything about the horcruxes and destroying the ring; and Harry the diary, yet he found the last five in less than a year?
Also, the way the romance between Harry and Ginny was written bugged me. It was just suddenly there. No prior anything, other than a not so close friendship between them. It just seemed almost like JKR copied and pasted a Harry/Ginny fanfic at times.
As to theories? I believe Dumbledore actually planned for Draco to disarm him, and not Snape. Snape would have had too difficult of a time letting Harry beat him lol
-Rags
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