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 Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 5:52 am
note: continuing from where we left off in the "Gay Rights Petition" thread
K, so, rmcdra brought up a really good point: the function of marriage is to have family, for two spirits to unite as one, pledging to stay loyal to eachother like we promise to stay loyal to the Father. That brings up another matter that I would like addressed, spirit of the law considered, how does that affect passages like Ephesians 5 and Colossians 3 speaking of the christian household?
Do gender roles still have a place? Is there suppose to be a specific structure to our families, a hierarchy of authority that calls for a distinction of the sexes, and for there to be two distinct sexes as the head of the household, regardless of the society we live in? and What about Galatians 3:28 in light of the other passages I've referred to? These are all epistles written by Paul, so I don't think he's contradicting himself when he says there's "no male or female" because we're all one in the Messiah. What is he conveying there really? because at other times he seems to be upholding that female + male family structure, and describing their distinctive roles and what's expected of them as a wife and a husband. How does that affect gay couples?
lol, I have many questions. I'm stuck here and would appreciate you guys bouncing ideas around; please offer your perspective because I can't see past my own prejudices.
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 6:31 am
Well... you take Paul's instruction with a good dose of common sense... He tells the wife to submit in everything, but we know that there are instances when it may not be right for the wife to roll over and take it...
Paul is instructing the household here as though the whole house is converted to Christianity.
As to Gay couples... All couples I know defer to one another, yet one person seems to be the final say... At least that is how it goes in working relationships...
In my relationship with my husband, there are times when I need to be the deciding factor on an issue, because I have the most experience with said issue. I am not trying to take authority from my husband, I am just better qualified by experience to deal with certain things... If he tells me we might need to do something differently, then I listen to him, but he shows me the same courtesy if I feel something that he does isn't quite working.
As it stands... Paul puts a good dose of his opinions, and Roman tradition into his writings... The letters he writes are meant particularly to the churches he writes them to, and if you study the culture and problems of the times in those areas, new light is shed on what he writes...
I am not saying that what he writes doesn't apply to us, there is great advice in all of what Paul writes... You need to remember you aren't getting all of his advice because you don't get all of his letters that were left out of the Canon.
Gay Christian couples really just need to do what the Holy Spirit convicts of them, just like straight Christian couples. Use a bit of common sense and let each partner handle the issues that they are best equipped to handle, and always work as a team...
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 6:40 am
speaking as someone who has been in homo and hetero relationships, homo relationships arent any different from a hetero relationship. there is no one person in charge, it changes depending on the situation
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