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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:42 pm


I've heard people state that God "supposedly" spoke to them, saying this, that, or the other thing.

Naturally, as a skeptic, I'm always skeptical of such things.

What I really want to know is...and pardon me if I may sound rude, even belittling...how do you know it was God? I mean...who's to say it wasn't something else?

Because where I come from, hearing voices isn't usually a good sign (again, I'm really not trying to be mean, so I apologize if I offend anyone).

Does one just assume that it's God speaking to you? I'm just trying to understand how someone comes to that conclusion.
PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:05 am


I can only speak for myself, and when I say something among those lines. It is normally because I seen something in the world that seems to be out of the ordinary and pairs with a problem I was praying for...

Like a flower growing up through a busy sidewalk, and a white butterfly lands on it for a few moments, not moving as a rush of people walk by... something butterflies don't normally do right? Would you not say, this could be a sign from God that I am supposed to slow down and enjoy life a little bit more? Speak to a deaf person, one uses hand signs, well same thought process.... God speaks though signs that we would see. or at least that is how I seem to get messages from him.

I know others, who have very vivid dreams, and take that as the message.

And who said hearing voices isn't a good thing? I hear my teachers talking, my dad yelling at the tv....stupid game.... I hear the laughter of my nephew. I even sometimes, sometimes, hear myself think... and that is the ones I answer razz lol

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:04 am


There is actually a very fine line between gnosis and madness. Gnosis can even turn into a type of madness even too if left unchecked. This is part of the reason why I hold to the divinity of reason. Reason is how we are able to discern between what's true and what's just nonsense. The biggest reason why I came back to Christianity was because of an experience I had. Now I am fully aware that this experience could have been completely in my head and been some sort of psychosis, that doubt is always going to be there. What leads me to believe though that my experience wasn't some sort of temporary psychosis is that the experience seemed to be genuine. I was not under the influence of any mind altering substances at the time. The experience I had matched up with others accounts of this experience and what the New Testament described of this experience. Now could this experience lead to some sort of madness? Of course it can, but with reason in the forefront, it can keep the gnosis in check from becoming madness. Now my experience did not involve voices but I do know for others it can. If the voices tell you to kill a box full of puppies, then you should go seek psychiatric help. If you are told to help some old person to cross the street, it's probably okay. Just keep reason in check. Don't jump out in the street with bazookas blowing up cars.

I would still see a doctor though if you are hearing voices since that is a possible sign of schizophrenia, just to be on the safe side though. If it's true, it should withstand testing. Christians are advised after all to "test all spirits".
PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:27 am


well when i was little i had a dream that pretty much described how my mother was going to die, her last words in my dream were the last thing she said to me.

well there was a man in the dream and im not really sure why but i just knew this man either was god or was meant to represent god. it was just a gut feeling

i let god take the credit for all my gut feelings because they have saved my life many times. if i get a feeling about something i listen to it and dont question it. its kept me out of bad car wrecks more than a few times just from me changing lanes for seemingly no reason or stopping at a green light. i just feel like its god trying to help me along a bit

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 4:27 am


I've never heard a disembodied voice, but my mom has. The difference between what she's experienced and what people who would be labelled "insane" have experienced is accuracy. There are a couple things she looks at to know whether or not it is God; tone and feeling. If the voice sounds deep and calming, she'll believe it is God. So far as I know she hasn't heard any other voice. Usually this voice occurs when she needs guidance and so far it is guided her away from several serious situations including a couple car wrecks and unstable buildings.

As much as I would like to say "That's all there is to it, it is definitely God's voice," the fact is it may not be. This could be instinct being formed into "The Voice of God" in order to aid in my mom's ability to survive. Little things she notices subconsciously such as drivers getting fidgety before a wreck or a building simply looking like it was falling apart could trigger an instinct to get out of the way. The voice could be formed by that instinct.
PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 5:17 am


I would never say it was a literal voice... but I have had that chill or tingle or feeling or a mental shove... just that feeling that comes not from yourself... have you ever had that? I would say that is spiritual.

We, as human beings, naturally put things into a physical manner... voice, sight, touch... what ever, we know have a physical connection, hence why a lot of people say "God is speaking to me".

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 11:08 am


I don't often hear God's "voice" or anything, and when I do it's usually not even words--it's more like a sensation or a knowing. It's as if words would take too long and are unnecessary anyway.

I've worked through problems, big and small, in my life undoubtedly under the supervision of God but without his interception, and I know how I think and how I perceive things.

God's perspective is greater than my own. The things he "says" to me are usually more important and not just for the moment or myself. They affirm and encourage my growth and humble me.

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I know others, who have very vivid dreams, and take that as the message.


I've told God before to talk to me through dreams. I tell him simply, "When I'm awake my mind is busy, I'm distracted, and I will frustrate you everytime if you try to talk to me. Wait til I'm alseep, and then I can't miss what it is you're saying."

I've had dreams that told me when someone was about to pass, even a dream that told me what house my mother would buy, and what job I would get. It doesn't happen often, but God knows how I am. Now, I try to meet him halfway and spend some waking hours with him, too. xp
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