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 Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 7:57 pm
I intend on keeping all my characters, and I dont want to change anything on them emotion_awesome
My active characters are:
Susan Chang
Rose Martin
Monica Linely
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 11:10 pm
Hello! I just thought to drop in and have a chat with you about your characters. I've noticed that you're having troubles roleplaying their flaws. We've been observing your characters for a bit and I just thought I could give you a little reminders about your characters and maybe some tips that could help?
Please take your time to read what I have to say and maybe we can figure something out so you'll have an easier time roleplaying flaws.
Susan Chang:
I recall that her flaws happen to be overprotective, nervous tendencies and rambling, but I don't think I've seen Susan ever ramble. If rambling was a flaw, it should happen pretty much every time she speaks with someone.
I also want to clarify a bit about nervous tendencies as well. A lot of people play it off as cute, like clumsiness. A squeak or a jump is playing it cute. A big reaction or an arm flail to the point they mess things up or ruin the things around them and get in the way of other people would make it a flaw because it is a trait about a character that other people wouldn't like.
As for her overprotective flaw, I have yet to see it, but that's understandable since she is still starting to make friends. However, once she starts making friends with people, that overprotectiveness should kick in at some point and Susan should have tendencies to attack anyone who means harm to her friends or hold her friends back if she thinks something is too dangerous to the point that maybe her friends might even get annoyed with her.
I know that a lot of people don't like to admit to flaws and with characters, you don't want to get on people's bad side, but having flaws help with character development and they are things that your character can grow and overcome.
Now maybe the flaws might not be working with Susan's character and you're just having a hard time working it in. You are free to change flaws to make them work for Susan. You can describe to me what kind of girl Susan is and maybe I could give you some advice on what flaws could fit her?
I also want to discuss with you about your other characters, but maybe we can work on Susan first?
And if the bold bothers you, I could stop it. 8D It's a new thing I'm trying to make it easier for people to read my posts. ; w;
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 11:17 pm
The bold is alot easier to read acctually, I dont mind if you contiue with that.
Now, I am having some troubles with Susan and the others. With Susan I am trying to get her to ramble, like if she is talking to someone she will add in unnessicary information, that makes her ramble. With nervous tendencies, I have no idea how to roleplay this.. WIth her overprotectiveness, it wil start to show, because she is now begginging to become close with a few characters.
In summary, Susan is:
She is quite out-going and will start a conversation no problem, she is rather chipper, and talkative, I did write down flirtatious, but I am think I might remove that, as I dont know how I should roleplay that.
Thanks, any tips will really help =)
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 12:20 am
Sorry for the wall of text. ; A; Take your time reading it bit by bit and I hope it's helpful for you. ^^
Yeah. I kind of figured that might be the case. Sometimes when making a new character, you put in flaws and you realize that it really doesn't work well with the character. I've do it all the time too and it can be frustrating to go back and work on a character until something works out.
Rambling is a bit hard when attempting to roleplay it and it's kind of hard to give tips about it. But you have the right idea. Rambling usually comes from a chain of unnecessary information that could eventually lead your character to go off topic. If you want, my character, Reilynn, likes to ramble a lot and I could send her to RP with you sometimes for examples or ideas. =D
As for nervous tendencies, it's kind of tricky to roleplay this with a character like Susan, who is supposed to be outgoing and talkative. Usually nervous tendencies appear with people who are shy and scared. I can understand why you would have a hard time roleplaying it since I'm having a pretty hard time coming up with advice for it.
If you have an idea of how to roleplay it, you are free to keep it. If you don't, then I suggest that you get rid of the flaw and try coming up with another flaw that works. When you think of outgoing and chatty people, you probably could think of people you know and try to think about what might be annoying about them? For a character like Susan, I would suggest character flaws like nosy, reckless, blunt, etc. When making flaws for a character, you need to remember that the flaws need to fit the personality.
Here, I'll give you examples of the flaws that I've given you and you can choose something that can work with Susan. You can pick more than one if you want.
A Nosy character is someone who likes to butt into other people's business. For example, a nosy character will probably interrupt a conversation being held between other characters and ask a lot of unnecessary personal questions.
A Reckless character is someone who charges into things without thinking and it causes them to get in trouble more often than not. These kinds of characters in a school RP are often found in detention.
A Blunt character is someone that are far too honest and say things without considering other people's feelings. These people will not hesitate to hurt people's feelings and usually are tied with being insensitive.
Hopefully these help. I also want to add a quick side note on metagaming. You're probably not doing it on purpose, but some of your characters seem to be able to "read minds" and it can be a little frustrating for roleplayers. It takes a bit of practice to avoid it, but I'm sure you can do it. Metagaming where a character responds to the thoughts of another character or knows something he or she shouldn't. It's fine if it happens once in a while, but we have a lot of characters that think a lot of mean things in their mind, but are polite in action. So characters that respond to them, shouldn't be thinking that the character is mean or doesn't like them or anything like that.
I guess the best way to avoid metagaming is to think about the actions of the characters and what was said before making your posts.
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:04 am
Thank you very much for these tips, they helped alot ^_^
I will remove nervous tendencies from Susan, as she just doesnt fit this flaw D: I will add in Reckless instead, when I do this, so I just replace it then you check it, or how does it work?
And yeah, I wouldn't mind if you send over Reilynn occasionally, as they have the similarity of rambling.
Metagaming, StrawberryZ0mbie warned me about this too, I was RPing with her and another RPer and Rose said something that she didn't know, but I knew as a person, I try really hard now to avoid it, if I do, it usually dont realise redface
Also, you said something about my other characters, how can I improve them and roleplay their flaws?
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:02 pm
No problem! I'm glad to help! =D
And that's about right. You can replace the flaw with reckless and I'll be watching to see if you've got it down. ^^
I'm sure that every RPer out there accidentally metagames every now and then. It's good to keep it in mind and avoid it as much as you can. We're pretty forgiving if it happens on accident or every once in a long while.
And yes. I still have a bit to say about your other characters, but I was thinking we can talk about it one day at a time since due to time differences, you're often online at nighttime where I'm usually kind of tired to think.
Next up is Rose Martin. From what I gathered in her profile, she's supposed to be shy and timid as well as friendly and caring. I just realized that there is a contradiction in her personality and I'm sorry for not catching it at first when I was first accepting her profile.
Friendly and shy are two opposite things and Rose needs to be one or the other. Usually friendly is connected with someone who is outgoing and reaches out to people. But I think that maybe by friendly, you mean that she is kind?
And while I was watching you roleplay Rose, she will show signs of shyness every now and then, but sometimes she contradicts her profile and shows an outgoing nature. One example was during her astronomy class when she went to answer the professor's question about the planets. She seemed to have no trouble with answering it but a shy person normally wouldn't have answered the question. And if a shy person did attempt to answer a question, usually a timid hand would slowly be raised and the shy person should also have trouble speaking with so much people since by answering a question, the attention goes to the one answering and shy people usually don't take that very well.
And her flaws need quite a lot of work. Rose has overprotective, too shy, timid, and trust issues. In a sense, only two of these can be accepted since we've long stopped taking shy as a flaw as well as timid now. Shyness is a flaw, but what some people do is that they slap down shyness on their character, and once their character has friends the shyness tends to disappear. So it's fine to keep shy as an extra detail, but it can't count as a flaw.
As for overprotective and trust issues, maybe you could give me a description of how you intend to use that with someone like Rose and maybe I can give you some additional help and advice. I just want to know how you think of it first. =D
And also, I'm not sure if you really do want Rose to be friendly or shy and I can't quite picture her personality in my head just yet. Can you give me a description of her personality and maybe I can come up with some flaws and ideas that might work with Rose.
And if you think of a flaw that might work and want to mention it, you're free to tell me. You don't have to take the ideas I give you since Rose is your character and you can choose what kind of girl she can be. ^^
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:32 pm
I guess the time difference is very different, I am assuming you are in the US or Canada? Whilst I am all the way down in Australia
Anywho, back to the characters ^_^
Friendly and shy. Yeah, I think I was meant to give her kind and shy, I see now how that contradicts itself. I will have to keep a closer eye on how i RP her, and make sure to make her act more shy.
Okay, so with her flaw, I guess we will need to remove timid and shy, but I'm not sure which ones I would put in instead.
With over protective, I was think a similar kind of that I have going with Susan, how she is very over protective with her friends. As for trust issues, I am thinking that she can have trust issues when I comes to males, because of her bio.
I was thinking that Rose would be; The kind of girl who is shy but still very kind, and she is rather protective of people close to her, but she has troubles when it comes to trusting people.
I cant think of any flaws I could give instead, thank you for all these tips and help, very much appreciated ^_^
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:59 pm
Yup! I'm in the US. Time differences sure stink. It makes roleplaying kind of hard since we have people from all over the place. ; -;
And you don't have to remove timid and shy. You can always leave it there as extra information. And I'll be looking out for the overprotective trait. It's kind of like an overprotective parent. If there are things that your characters' friends are doing that they feel are dangerous or would hurt them in anyway, your character would stop them. Everyone would be "overprotective" if the case is extreme such as a friend hanging out with bad people. Remember overprotective is only a flaw when your character will react protectively about every little thing.
As for her trust issues, it won't work if it only works on guys. Sure the trust issues will probably hinder her in romance (if she was heterosexual), but not necessarily with making friends. A flaw is a personality trait that follows a person around all the time. Because no one is perfect right and with every person you know, there are usually a few things about them that annoys you, right?
As for the flaws for shy people, I would think that some examples you could use are dependent, pessimistic, gullible, and indecisive.
Dependent is where your character won't be able to do anything for herself. She has to rely on other people do things for her sometimes and usually relies heavily on friends. This kind of flaw means that she won't be heading off and doing things on her own and is often looking for friends to do things with her. It ties in well with the shy flaw because when talking with people, she could hide behind a friend and let the friend do the talking for her.
Pessimistic is a where your character sees the worst in every kind of situation. This ties in well with her overprotective flaw and helps exemplify it even more. After all, pessimistic is not just thinking the worst, but also believing it and that makes a person avoid any situation that could cause potential harm even if it is unlikely. For example, if your character when to the amusement park with her friends, she should argue to the point of annoying her friends to not ride the roller coaster because there's a possibility of a malfunction and he roller coaster might crash and burn and people can die.
Gullible is also a flaw that can also be considered. It means that your character will believe everything that is told to her. This makes it easy to trick your character. However, with this flaw, you have to remember that when someone is tricking your character, she shouldn't be able to have a clue about what's happening.
Lastly, indecisive is considered a flaw. It's where your character always hesitates before doing an action. If there are two or more choices, she's always thinking too hard over it and it takes forever for her to move on to the next thing. Whenever other people ask for her to pick, she'll give them a wishy washy answer like "I like this choice 1 because of this but choice 2 is also good because of that. I don't know guys!"
There are many other flaws that could fit Rose, but it would take too long for me to list them all out for you. ^^ These are some that I thought you might consider for her. =D
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:14 am
Time differences are rather irratating.
Okay, so for her trust issues to work it would be with everyone? Note; Rose is heterosexual, it just takes longer for her to trust males. I'll make sure to do the overprotectiveness when Rose starts to make more friends..
I think the flaw I would like her to have is indecisive, that'll suit her more, I think, personally.
And also, you said something about Monica too?
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 12:38 am
Alright! This is the last stretch of posts! And yes, for her trust issues to work, it has to be with everyone. Now remember, Rose probably won't be making friends really fast so it'll be harder for you to have her settle in, but because of the class system, she should eventually make friends with the people she starts to see all the time.
So Monica might be a bit short since she's fairly new and it's hard to find that many problems. Although I did notice one and that was when she was at machine shop class with Saeslin as her teacher. She was able to make a pocket watch in one post and that's pretty fast if you ask me. Remember that her flaws are finicky, anxious, and obsessive. So her flaws should have been shown during that time. Her perfectionist attitude should have made her work on that pocket watch for more than one post and I doubt she should have been able to finish it in that class period. Not to mention her anxious nature will probably have her pestering the teacher detailed questions or asking if it looks anything okay. She possibly might have yelled at Markus who was causing a ruckus to be quiet so she could concentrate. That scene, I felt, was a very perfect time for her flaws to have shown, but she just made the watch and hardly noticed all the commotion around her.
Now maybe you're not ready to roleplay this kind of character? That's okay! You can always change her personality and her flaws if you want to and we could try working on her again so you'll be more comfortable with roleplaying her. But Monica is not timid or shy and from what I see on her profile she almost strikes me to have a very assertive nature. I could be wrong. You can go ahead and give me a description of what you had viewed her as and I'll see what I kind of advice I can give you. =D
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:33 am
Oh, yup, good point, I guess I should have put in Monica's flaws.
I picture Monica to be a very quiet girl, not to the point of being anti-social, but she is kind, and will talk to people, if they talk to her first.. I should be able to manage playing this character, I jsut need to make sure I RP in her flaws.
Thanks so much for helping me with this, very much appreciated ^_^
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 11:11 pm
M i n i R e d S t a r s Oh, yup, good point, I guess I should have put in Monica's flaws.
I picture Monica to be a very quiet girl, not to the point of being anti-social, but she is kind, and will talk to people, if they talk to her first.. I should be able to manage playing this character, I jsut need to make sure I RP in her flaws.
Thanks so much for helping me with this, very much appreciated ^_^
But yes! Just remember to think of her flaws when roleplaying her. And I don't mind helping at all! I'm glad to help! If you're not sure about something, you can always ask me. ^^
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